That's not the point. You said nobody made an attempt to go towards that detonator besides that one guy. They did. It was plenty powerful. Even if you didn't like Rachel, it wasn't that it was Rachel that was dying that made it so powerful, it was that Bruce and Dent were both losing the woman they love. It was the effect on them that makes it powerful. Like the death of Bruce's parents. Nobody gives a damn about Thomas and Martha. It's the effect of their death on Bruce that makes their death so powerful. A villain trying to destroy a whole city has been done countless times in movies and TV shows, too. That doesn't make it any more realistic either. Cite me some real world examples of cases like this. Oh look it's a scan of Harvey Kent who is blaming Maroni's two headed coin for what happened to him. Yeah that's totally the standard canon version of Dent's back story. He blames a coin for his misfortune It's not the same difference. The Batman and Joker situation in Batman '89 was written as a miraculous contrived coincidence that Batman and the Joker created each other 20 years apart accidentally. The Joker breaking Dent was intentional. So does Poison Ivy. She thinks it's justice to kill people who have harmed Mother Nature. She's no more a vigilante than Two Face. Yeah, the mob were after Dent. But Joker wasn't approached by them to take care of Dent. They got him to deal with Batman. Chechen: "We put word out that we'll hire the clown. He was right. We have to fix real problem: Batman" Joker went after Dent himself for his own sick ends.