Comics Amazing Spider-Man #579 (spoiler/review)

[stillanerd]

Surprised nobody brought this issue up yet as a topic. What, nobody on the pro-BND side wants to take a stab? You got to get an Anti-BND guy to make the first move?

Sigh...all right, here's my mini review:

I decided to go back and read the previous issue of Amazing Spider-Man before reading this one, just to see how the story worked as a whole. Basically, my conclusions about this issue, and the story in general, was pretty much the same as last issue. Decent characterization by Waid of Spider-Man; pretty ordinary story which could have been told regardless of the comics current One More Day/Brand New Day set-up; and some very excellent art by Marcos Martin (one panel in particular [blackout]with Spidey covered with rats as he’s pulling up the jurors to safety in his “Ms. Hail Mary” harness was a real stand out)[/blackout]. There really wasn’t much in the way of continuing subplots here, other than mention of Aunt May at the F.E.A.S.T. center and [blackout]Jameson undergoing divorce proceedings, which is logical but also pretty sad for the ‘ol skinflint.[/blackout] Although it looks like we’re getting another “mystery” involving “junior’s” father and why he was absent from his son’s life for so long. All and all, though, this was pretty decent.

 

[Themanofbat]

I didn't get my copy yet...

 

[moraldeficiency]

JJJJ is getting a divorce? That sucks.

 

[Farren]

Peter can't divorce his wife, but JJJ can.

I think Marvel is making fun of us again.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Yeah, thats exactly what they are doing.


That image of Spidey covered in rats trying to hold up the jurors, as great.

 

[Styleshift]

I decided to pick this one up for myself. Mark Waid's name was on it. I loved his FF story that starred Spidey and The torch. As much and in some ways more than Dan Slotts take on the character's.

I actually dug these two issues.

No OMD reminder or teases.
No use of the lame Brand New Day cast.
Marcos Martin turned in some really good scenes. I'm still not a fan of his people though...but he did better here than before. I LOVE his Spider-man.


They were really good....

But Than they introduced a VERY interesting character and he suddenly disappeared....

Not that I am impatient.
But c'mon how many unresolved mysteries are they going to create?

• We don't know why Peter and MJ split.
• We don't know what supposedly "really happened" in the marriage issue.
• We don't know who Menace is.
• We don't know Why Harry is still Alive.
• We don't know how Peter remasked himself.
• We don't know what Mj's deal with Mephisto was.
• We don't know how much exactly Peter knows about whats going on.
• We don't know how Vin and Carlie were introduced.
• We don't know who the Spider Tracer Killer is.
• There is a 100 days Between OMD and ASM that we know nothing of.

It's not the mysteries that irritate me the crap out me. It's how much they have piled on since Brand New Day started.

 

[stillanerd]

I decided to pick this one up for myself. Mark Waid's name was on it. I loved his FF story that starred Spidey and The torch. As much and in some ways more than Dan Slotts take on the character's.

I actually dug these two issues.

No OMD reminder or teases.
No use of the lame Brand New Day cast.
Marcos Martin turned in some really good scenes. I'm still not a fan of his people though...but he did better here than before. I LOVE his Spider-man.


They were really good....

But Than they introduced a VERY interesting character and he suddenly disappeared....

Not that I am impatient.
But c'mon how many unresolved mysteries are they going to create?

• We don't know why Peter and MJ split.
• We don't know what supposedly "really happened" in the marriage issue.
• We don't know who Menace is.
• We don't know Why Harry is still Alive.
• We don't know how Peter remasked himself.
• We don't know what Mj's deal with Mephisto was.
• We don't know how much exactly Peter knows about whats going on.
• We don't know how Vin and Carlie were introduced.
• We don't know who the Spider Tracer Killer is.
• There is a 100 days Between OMD and ASM that we know nothing of.

It's not the mysteries that irritate me the crap out me. It's how much they have piled on since Brand New Day started.

Agreed. For me it's not so much about Peter Parker no longer being married to Mary Jane that's the problem (since I can understand the need for Spider-Man to be a young and single character), it's how the hell we got from point A to point B that's the problem. And it's made worse by the fact that Marvel has been dragging their heels in trying to tie it all together because they were more concerned about telling Spider-Man stories that payed "homage" to the good ol days of Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and John Romita than they are sequential storytelling. Which is ironic because those guys they're paying homage to are the ones who pioneered the concept of sequential storytelling to comic books in the first place.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Agreed. For me it's not so much about Peter Parker no longer being married to Mary Jane that's the problem (since I can understand the need for Spider-Man to be a young and single character), it's how the hell we got from point A to point B that's the problem. And it's made worse by the fact that Marvel has been dragging their heels in trying to tie it all together because they were more concerned about telling Spider-Man stories that payed "homage" to the good ol days of Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and John Romita than they are sequential storytelling. Which is ironic because those guys they're paying homage to are the ones who pioneered the concept of sequential storytelling to comic books in the first place.

Aloha,
True, but don't forget it took 15 issues from the time we met Green Goblin (#14) to the time we found out who HE was (#39) and that was under Lee,Ditko and Romita.We as fans want it all right now.Comics are our drug. Comic book companies are the pusher, they want us to come back as often as possible.
Spidey rules

 

[Styleshift]

Agreed. For me it's not so much about Peter Parker no longer being married to Mary Jane that's the problem (since I can understand the need for Spider-Man to be a young and single character), it's how the hell we got from point A to point B that's the problem. And it's made worse by the fact that Marvel has been dragging their heels in trying to tie it all together because they were more concerned about telling Spider-Man stories that payed "homage" to the good ol days of Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and John Romita than they are sequential storytelling. Which is ironic because those guys they're paying homage to are the ones who pioneered the concept of sequential storytelling to comic books in the first place.

I couldn't agree more...
A single Spidey doesn't bother me either.
When he was separated and a Widower that never really bothered me.

I faced so many horrible Spidey stories....
The other
Sins Past
Sins remembered
The Clone saga (some of it I liked however.)
Howard Mackie's run
Chapter one.

OMD was the last straw...I wasn't sure if I was giving BND a fair chance. TMOB convinced me of this...and while there are some gems among the dirt.

They continue to do things that makes the book unattractive to me just when I get into it.

The 1st time I tried...it was Peter Parker Paparazzi.
The 2nd time it was Scorpion-Venom
The 3rd time was Joe Kelly's 2nd issue, it was kinda mediocre and there were a couple of continuity problems. ...Hey has anyone notice that Norah made a date with Peter...yet not only is he perfectly fine in the next issue.
But it just made 579-580 feel completely out of continuity.

 

[Styleshift]

Aloha,
True, but don't forget it took 15 issues from the time we met Green Goblin (#14) to the time we found out who HE was (#39) and that was under Lee,Ditko and Romita.We as fans want it all right now.Comics are our drug. Comic book companies are the pusher, they want us to come back as often as possible.
Spidey rules

You missed his whole point....as well as mine.....maybe.

We're not mad or upset or frustrated about the length of these mysteries.
We're irritated by the millions of mysteries that have been dropped in this book thus far.

Brand New Day has nothing on the hobgoblin mystery in terms of length. I love that story...it was very well done. The clues were there and we were able to watch the situation as it happened. Not watch everything unravel from the results. This gives BND a feeling of "reading it backwards" IMHO

I personally love mysteries.
add a really good one with clues and they'd have me on the book full time.

All though the OMD mystery is reasonable when it comes to frustration.
Its just a constant reminder of how much we don't know about Peter or any of the supporting cast since post OMD.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I decided to pick this one up for myself. Mark Waid's name was on it. I loved his FF story that starred Spidey and The torch. As much and in some ways more than Dan Slotts take on the character's.

I actually dug these two issues.

No OMD reminder or teases.
No use of the lame Brand New Day cast.
Marcos Martin turned in some really good scenes. I'm still not a fan of his people though...but he did better here than before. I LOVE his Spider-man.


They were really good....

But Than they introduced a VERY interesting character and he suddenly disappeared....

Not that I am impatient.
But c'mon how many unresolved mysteries are they going to create?

• We don't know why Peter and MJ split.
• We don't know what supposedly "really happened" in the marriage issue.
• We don't know who Menace is.
• We don't know Why Harry is still Alive.
• We don't know how Peter remasked himself.
• We don't know what Mj's deal with Mephisto was.
• We don't know how much exactly Peter knows about whats going on.
• We don't know how Vin and Carlie were introduced.
• We don't know who the Spider Tracer Killer is.
• There is a 100 days Between OMD and ASM that we know nothing of.

It's not the mysteries that irritate me the crap out me. It's how much they have piled on since Brand New Day started.

To be fair, you mentioned a storyline that you know is being resolved in two issues (How Harry came back). Yeah, it is frustrating all the mysteries in the air, but it does keep things interesting and a little suspenseful. Then again, I liked the clone saga...

Oh, and you forgot the mystery of what's up with Hollister and Crowne and who will win the mayoral race?

 

[Styleshift]

To be fair, you mentioned a storyline that you know is being resolved in two issues (How Harry came back). Yeah, it is frustrating all the mysteries in the air, but it does keep things interesting and a little suspenseful. Then again, I liked the clone saga...

Oh, and you forgot the mystery of what's up with Hollister and Crowne and who will win the mayoral race?

True.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Not only did I miss that...but I also missed

• Norah (The new girl that likes Peter. That's debatable...but something about her doesn't sit right with me)
• Dexter Bennett (what the heck is his problem?)
• The homeless people in the oscorp building.

It's not that I am impatient. It's just that they've introduced so many plots and stuck them in like they've been around forever... (mainly the new supporting cast) They barely give any clues or character development to those people, and than they start piling more story plots on top of those story elements that have not been worked out yet.

It doesn't feel like the same book because the gap between made it so disjointed. Everytime I find myself finding something I like about Brand New Day...these few things about the book continue to push me away.

 

[iloveclones]

Seriously, are you guys going to use every single thread to rehash the same arguments? I mean, we get it. You don't want to wait anymore.

 

[Styleshift]

Seriously, are you guys going to use every single thread to rehash the same arguments? I mean, we get it. You don't want to wait anymore.

Go back and read the posts...matter of fact.... don't you read em wrong the first time so why should I expect you to read it right the second time? so, I'll explain briefly.

It's not about being impatient.

It's about the writing style.

and how this book affects the series as a whole.

1. Yet another mystery added.
2. It doesn't fit into continuity with what happened at the end of 577.

This is not the same argument. It's relevant to whats going on currently.

I actually really liked the story told in both issues. It's just a bit iffy when looking at things as a whole.

 

[iloveclones]

Look, it's the same argument, over and over, just stated a little differently. I'll leave before farmie comes in to remind us about the alternate universe....

 

[Styleshift]

Look, it's the same argument, over and over, just stated a little differently. I'll leave before farmie comes in to remind us about the alternate universe....

Similar yes, but not the same.
It's all relevant to this issue. I couldn't discuss those things before now could I? (Didn't I just blow your mind? )
I am keeping up with Brand New Day so I know what I'm talking about. Buying it? well...most of the time no.

Oh and Farmie's coming....he's just practicing his charlie brown joke's in front of the mirror first so he'll get em right. t:

 

[iloveclones]

Oh and Farmie's coming....he's just practicing his charlie brown joke's in front of the mirror first so he'll get em right. t:

And it works on both sides: soon, TMOB will be reminding us of the Marvel's long-term plans, and I'll b saying that it's the best I've read in years. I just thought I'd get to the finish-line a little quicker this time

 

[Blader5489]

Look, it's the same argument, over and over, just stated a little differently. I'll leave before farmie comes in to remind us about the alternate universe....

I'm pretty sure styleshift and farmernudie are the same person.

Anyway, good issue. I wish Waid had time to write more ASM. Loved Martin's art, hope to see more of that in the future.

 

[Miken Ayers]

JJJJ is getting a divorce? That sucks.

I fear that's just gonna age the character too much.

 

[Themanofbat]

And it works on both sides: soon, TMOB will be reminding us of the Marvel's long-term plans, and I'll b saying that it's the best I've read in years. I just thought I'd get to the finish-line a little quicker this time

 

[Styleshift]

And it works on both sides: soon, TMOB will be reminding us of the Marvel's long-term plans, and I'll b saying that it's the best I've read in years. I just thought I'd get to the finish-line a little quicker this time

ha! you win....

I'm pretty sure styleshift and farmernudie are the same person.

Anyway, good issue. I wish Waid had time to write more ASM. Loved Martin's art, hope to see more of that in the future.

Naw....we're not the same person, I really don't find my own jokes funny to tell you the truth...but that farmie he's hilarious! t:

 

[farmernudie]

Good Grief!!! (i'm hheeerrre...)

I am not even commenting in here yet, haven't read my friends issue yet, and i try to be respectful of these reviews threads and everything as much as possible...but just reading thru this all...

BUt i've got iloveclones in here projecting in his crystal ball about me...

And Blader (of course) is coming up with conspiracy theories that I am the same person as another poster (styleshift).



To make Clonesy happy...Uh..."THIS ISSUE DEMONSTATES THE ALTERNATE TIMELINE WHERE DEVIL PETE AND HIS PALS ARE SHRUNKEN AND TRAPPED IN A BOTTLE OF MEPHANDOR WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS OUTSIDE THE BOTTLE PLAYING WITH GREEN PLASTIC MAN.."...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

This issue was really great, IMO. I loved the interacting between Spidey and JJJ's father.

 

[Themanofbat]

Good Grief!!! (i'm hheeerrre...)

I am not even commenting in here yet, haven't read my friends issue yet, and i try to be respectful of these reviews threads and everything as much as possible...but just reading thru this all...

BUt i've got iloveclones in here projecting in his crystal ball about me...

And Blader (of course) is coming up with conspiracy theories that I am the same person as another poster (styleshift).



To make Clonesy happy...Uh..."THIS ISSUE DEMONSTATES THE ALTERNATE TIMELINE WHERE DEVIL PETE AND HIS PALS ARE SHRUNKEN AND TRAPPED IN A BOTTLE OF MEPHANDOR WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS OUTSIDE THE BOTTLE PLAYING WITH GREEN PLASTIC MAN.."...

But... but... Marvel has these LONG TERM plans for well after we're all DEAD!!!!!

 

[Themanofbat]

No offense should be taken of my aforementioned post by either ILClonesy or farmie...