The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Andrew Garfield IS Spider-Man!

[Loki882]

I think that some people confuse "jerk" with "ordinary teenager."

 

[Spidey1107]

I think that some people confuse "jerk" with "ordinary teenager."

They just want something to ***** about.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I really don't understand why people are complaining about spiderman being a jerk..... In the school setting, there were only like 4-5 scenes where Peter does take action. In the scene where he confronts the car jacked and the police, he's being too mean despite them having weapons against him. One of which tried to SHOOT him. With Aunt May, he didn't talk to her much, showing distance between them.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I think that some people confuse "jerk" with "ordinary teenager."

This.

Apparently, they can't accept how people would act in real life.

 

[Spidey1107]

Like I said, they just want to be the ones to antagonize everything whenever they get the opportunity to.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I really don't understand why people are complaining about spiderman being a jerk..... In the school setting, there were only like 4-5 scenes where Peter does take action. In the scene where he confronts the car jacked and the police, he's being too mean despite them having weapons against him. One of which tried to SHOOT him. With Aunt May, he didn't talk to her much, showing distance between them.

Umm... I looked a few pages back. No one is complaining about that.

Save your defenses for when someone actually does complain.

 

[Spidey1107]

Umm... I looked a few pages back. No one is complaining about that.

Save your defenses for when someone actually does complain.

They mean on Clevver Movies and stuff, not here.

 

[TheLastBlade]

Umm... I looked a few pages back. No one is complaining about that.

Save your defenses for when someone actually does complain.

Oh yeah, it's not like I just said it came from places like ign and clevermovies. So much for me stating that it came from other sites. Oh, DARN!

Silly me, I forgot to put it into words people need to understand! iGN is a place that reviews things like movies, games, and other media. They also have news and boards where users can comment! Clevermovies is a site for news and clips!

But that's not all! There a like and dislike system for both! It's for the kiddies that are happy and filled with sunshine and kids that think it's a no no!

Also those box things, yeah, they're articles for the subject people want to see!

And those moving images? Those are called advertisements! That way, people can see something new and might intrigue them!

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Oh yeah, it's not like I just said it came from places like ign and clevermovies. So much for me stating that it came from other sites. Oh, DARN!

Silly me, I forgot to put it into words people need to understand! iGN is a place that reviews things like movies, games, and other media. They also have news and boards where users can comment! Clevermovies is a site for news and clips!

But that's not all! There a like and dislike system for both! It's for the kiddies that are happy and filled with sunshine and kids that think it's a no no!

Also those box things, yeah, they're articles for the subject people want to see!

And those moving images? Those are called advertisements! That way, people can see something new and might intrigue them!

jesus. overreact much?

 

[TheLastBlade]

That's what you get >:P

 

[Gianakin_]

Nah. Capt Stacy never should have made that remark in the first place. I get what he was/is trying to do--he's looking out for his daughter's best interests, like any good father would do. However, it would have been better for Capt Stacy to say "keep my daughter safe."

Yes, which is why I said in my post "They did the 1st obvious mistake by having Capt Stacy make Peter promise THAT thing".

IMO, it would have been worse for Peter to tell Capt Stacy, "No, I can't." Him breaking the promise has a more powerful impact on the weight placed on Peter's shoulders--it's always there in the back of his mind whenever he's with her on a date or whatever. And, ultimately, when she dies (I'm assuming this of course) the weight of the broken promise will come down on him very hard. It adds more burden to him than to say "no I can't."

It just sounds so cliche.

 

[Gianakin_]

Please elaborate.

The way he suddenly turns on Ben the night he dies (writer's fault).
The development of the Gwen romance (editing's fault).
The whole promise debacle. Nobody will ever convince me this isn't the epitome of sloppy writing (HOWEVER, the fact the Webb will address it in TASM2 makes me hopeful).

I don't think Pete's a jerk. I do think he was terribly mishandled by the writers, who were going for a "real world confuse and baggage-ridden teenager" approach and ended up with a half-assed character. I also think Webb tried to make most of the messy situation. Finally, I think the CC footage has made me feel good about Peter's character again.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

That's what you get >:P

The way he suddenly turns on Ben the night he dies (writer's fault).
The development of the Gwen romance (editing's fault).
The whole promise debacle. Nobody will ever convince me this isn't the epitome of sloppy writing (HOWEVER, the fact the Webb will address it in TASM2 makes me hopeful).

I don't think Pete's a jerk. I do think he was terribly mishandled by the writers, who were going for a "real world confuse and baggage-ridden teenager" approach and ended up with a half-assed character. I also think Webb tried to make most of the messy situation. Finally, I think the CC footage has made me feel good about Peter's character again.

See LastBlade now would be the time to defend AG's Peter. When someone calls him half-assed.

 

[AnneFan]

As I posted in my initial reaction to the trailer, Garfield seems to have grown into the role. Or I have really accepted his voice and appearance to the point it feels natural. He's no longer 'the new guy'.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

As I posted in my initial reaction to the trailer, Garfield seems to have grown into the role. Or I have really accepted his voice and appearance to the point it feels natural. He's no longer 'the new guy'.

the delivery of "need a hand" was perfect. there's a friendliness and lightness there that was missing from tasm1, imo.

 

[TH29]

the delivery of "need a hand" was perfect. there's a friendliness and lightness there that was missing from tasm1, imo.

agreed a hundred percent.

 

[TheLastBlade]

The way he suddenly turns on Ben the night he dies (writer's fault).
The development of the Gwen romance (editing's fault).
The whole promise debacle. Nobody will ever convince me this isn't the epitome of sloppy writing (HOWEVER, the fact the Webb will address it in TASM2 makes me hopeful).

I don't think Pete's a jerk. I do think he was terribly mishandled by the writers, who were going for a "real world confuse and baggage-ridden teenager" approach and ended up with a half-assed character. I also think Webb tried to make most of the messy situation. Finally, I think the CC footage has made me feel good about Peter's character again.

@proxytoxin lol.

What do you mean turn on Ben? You mean the fact that Peter was angry over a sensitive topic about his parents? Ben kind of over complicated his responsibility line, but it was believable. Especially now that Peter was showboating and forgot his responsibility.

I think the problem with the Gwen romance is that there wasn't 5 minutes to show the audience how to connect with that. What it did do was show how a teen romance would do in real life (at least the dinner part). Gwen lives with a committed family, while Peter lives as an outcast. Plus, Gwen did stuff that not a lot of heroines do. Come on.

Not much to say here. I think I need to check back with this scene to get a better idea. Admittedly though, I didn't get it the other times.

I liked Andrew Garfield because he did things a stupid teenager would do. I can relate. He had things he liked to do like skating. He's not the type of loner that lets kids being picked on. And he most certainly had the look of an average teenager. Plus, his growth as spiderman was pretty cool.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yes, which is why I said in my post "They did the 1st obvious mistake by having Capt Stacy make Peter promise THAT thing".


It just sounds so cliche.

Though I think saying "Keep Gwen out of it" makes more sense from his point of view. If Peter keeps her in his life, she is still in great danger. If she is out of it completely, and has no involvement, there is no danger for her at all.

 

[Picard Sisko]

See LastBlade now would be the time to defend AG's Peter. When someone calls him half-assed.

Yeah, I never found him to be "Half assed."

I wouldn't even think of half of these complaints if I was never online reading comments from the internet. I miss the dark ages.

 

[Lei D Loki]

The way he suddenly turns on Ben the night he dies (writer's fault).
The development of the Gwen romance (editing's fault).
The whole promise debacle. Nobody will ever convince me this isn't the epitome of sloppy writing (HOWEVER, the fact the Webb will address it in TASM2 makes me hopeful).

I don't think Pete's a jerk. I do think he was terribly mishandled by the writers, who were going for a "real world confuse and baggage-ridden teenager" approach and ended up with a half-assed character. I also think Webb tried to make most of the messy situation. Finally, I think the CC footage has made me feel good about Peter's character again.

Appreciate your reply. However, I have a different take on these matters than you.

1. To me, Parker lashing out at Uncle Ben was a natural reaction. Not saying what he did was right or wrong, just that I can understand his reaction. I never once forgot that I am watching a teenager. A lot of things happened within that day. He woke up with superpowers he's still learning to control. Then he gets even with his bully but ends up breaking school property and his Uncle making him face the reality that what he became a bully himself. Then after that he finds out the girl he likes kinda likes him back. Then he helps a man he respects solve an important scientific problem. Then he gets home to a pissed off Uncle but an understanding Aunt. Then his Uncle mentions his dad.

2. The Parker/Gwen romance was one of the highlights of the film. I usually roll my eyes at any romantic angle these types of film try to shoehorn just to please the female population. However, I was surprised I really enjoyed it in this film. I didn't know the actors were actually in a relationship in real life when I watched it the first time.

3. I don't think the promise thing is sloppy writing. The writers knew that there will be sequels so I kinda got that they were setting up something for the next films. I did not need the recent spoiler to tell me this.

4. Peter Parker in this movie is not half-assed, IMO.

 

[Gianakin_]

What do you mean turn on Ben? You mean the fact that Peter was angry over a sensitive topic about his parents? Ben kind of over complicated his responsibility line, but it was believable. Especially now that Peter was showboating and forgot his responsibility.

I didn't mind the responsibility line. I meant that in one scene Peter calls Ben his father and in the other he asks him where his father is when he actually knows Richard died in a f**kin' plane crash. Be angry at life, not your dad or your uncle.

I think the problem with the Gwen romance is that there wasn't 5 minutes to show the audience how to connect with that. What it did do was show how a teen romance would do in real life (at least the dinner part). Gwen lives with a committed family, while Peter lives as an outcast. Plus, Gwen did stuff that not a lot of heroines do. Come on.

Hence my "editing" remark. The whole let's go out->I don't wanna talk to anyone->come to dinner with my parents->I'm Spider-Man thing never sat well with me. It was like footnotes of a relationship. Does the dinner with parents thing come so early in a relationship in the United States? Honest question. If it's normal, then I retract my statement. And I never criticized her as a character.

I liked Andrew Garfield because he did things a stupid teenager would do. I can relate. He had things he liked to do like skating. He's not the type of loner that lets kids being picked on. And he most certainly had the look of an average teenager. Plus, his growth as spiderman was pretty cool.

I believe I'm clear in that I'm not criticizing Andrew, but Peter's writing.

 

[Gianakin_]

Appreciate your reply. However, I have a different take on these matters than you.

See my post above.

This is always gonna run in circles, as TASM-Peter's supporters bring up the same arguments and his detractors bring theirs (always the same, too).

I get why they chose the broken promise angle, it makes logical sense, I just think it makes Peter an unlikeable person, based on my moral values and which people I personally like.

 

[Picard Sisko]

See my post above.

This is always gonna run in circles, as TASM-Peter's supporters bring up the same arguments and his detractors bring theirs (always the same, too).

I get why they chose the broken promise angle, it makes logical sense, I just think it makes Peter an unlikeable person, based on my moral values and which people I personally like.

Couldn't disagree more.

 

[Gianakin_]

You disagree with my personal preferences, which is fine, but does the "thumbs down" icon imply something about my character? I seriously hope not.

 

[Picard Sisko]

You disagree with my personal preferences, which is fine, but does the "thumbs down" icon imply something about my character? I seriously hope not.

About your character? I don't even know you. I assure you, the thumbs down is just there to emphasize how highly I disagree with your opinion, that's all. Nothing personal.