Anyone frustrated with Thor's power levels?

[Docker2.0]

Thor is suppose to have strength level on par with the Hulk and Superman but it's never really displayed. We really don't know how strong Thor is because of his reliance on Mjolnir. I don't know, maybe I'm just frustrated because in the eternal Marvel vs DC struggle, he should be able to hold his own against the DC powerhouses but it's debatable if the Avengers in the MCU could stand their own against the DCEU Superman.






















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[Vartha]

Well it LOOKS like we'll at least see Thor USE his power over lightning in Ragnarok. WITHOUT Mjolnir by the way
I do wish we had more examples of his power level tho.





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[2kt09]

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[Vartha]

Docker brings up a point. We really haven't seen much.
Using the going toe to toe with Hulk, has sort of down graded with the HulkBuster fight.

There's NOTHING that really shows what Thor or ANY Asgardian is capable of at full strength or use of energy

 

[Docker2.0]

Docker brings up a point. We really haven't seen much.
Using the going toe to toe with Hulk, has sort of down graded with the HulkBuster fight.

There's NOTHING that really shows what Thor or ANY Asgardian is capable of at full strength or use of energy

Thank you! I rewatched Avengers and should have went through a bunch of those flying insects alone but he kind of struggled with the foot soldiers. Now in Ragnorak he goes one on one with the Hulk. He barely broke Iron Man's helmet. Just wish they would expand on his power levels............then hearing Captain Marvel will be Marvel's most powerful hero yet!

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I am certainly in agreement that the presentation of Thor's various powers has been all over the map, and unfortunately leaves many viewers not familiar with the comic character with the impression that the hammer is the source of his power as most of the huge spectacle they have had Thor accomplish in the films is him using the hammer for some deed or another.

Hopefully this film will show that he is a physically imposing, Hulk level threat even without the hammer.

 

[HKpowerup]

Thor's power levels are fine. There's plenty of evidence to back this up:
- His total ownage of the Frost Giants & destruction of a large chunk of Jotunheim land in Thor 1. This was the first time the general movie-going audience was introduced to his character and what a way to show his capabilities.
- Blocking Hulk's punch in their brief carrier duel in Avengers 1 and generally holding his own vs. the Hulk
- Destroying many Chitauri and a good number of Leviathans in that lightning strike atop the skyscraper in Avengers 1. This is one of the most powerful scenes of power and destruction in CBM history.
- Ultron singling him out in AoU (instead of Hulk).

These are just one of numerous examples. I will agree that the way they depicted him vs. Iron Man in Avengers 1 was not consistent with his earlier feats, even though he was holding back he still should’ve defeated Iron Man handily.

But otherwise he’s fine. His power levels will be set depending on the needs of the story, but we should see a major buff in Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War.

 

[bubbadoom]

Yes - it has been bothersome at times - particularly in ULTRON - a blow from Quicksilver should not have phased Thor and he should have mopped the floor with Ultron...

 

[HammerDown]

Well it LOOKS like we'll at least see Thor USE his power over lightning in Ragnarok. WITHOUT Mjolnir by the way

It was first teased on AOU and know we are gonna get it in Ragnarok. Can't wait.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, his power level is fine. The problem is more a matter of giving him some good show-off scenes. And this is mainly a problem for Thor 2.

 

[CoherentChaos]

^ agreed, he's been shown on multiple occasions to wield highly devastating power. Like, power stone levels of destruction whenever he nukes Sokovia and that chunk of Jotunheim. He doesn't often get the chance to display that level of power because he often has to worry about collateral.

And he's withstood tremendous punishment too with minimal visible injuries. Only Loki's dagger really hurt him for long and even then he was hardly injured.

I think the only thing he needs is a speed boost and more direct lightning attacks.

 

[HammerDown]

Agreed with the 2 previous posts. Imo Thor has consistently shown to be the most powerful avenger. In every movie he has shown hints of what he is really capable of.

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[metaphysician]

Yeah. Even in Avengers 2, note that he was central to blowing up the floating city, and also the only Avenger to engage in an extended fight with Ultron's final body.

 

[Bren]

Most of his feats mentioned included Mjolnir.
The biggest feats he's achieved without is blocking Hulk's punch, surviving a pretty heavy fall and headbutting and denting IM's helmet.
Getting punched around by Ultron didn't look all that special imo.
He's impressive, but I want more

 

[HammerDown]

And also that particular version of Ultron was a "vibranium juiced" one. Iron Man own words.
This particular vibranium Ultron crushed with one hand the one that went toe-to-toe against Captain America and Iron Man. This final version of Ultron fought only against Thor and Vision.

Ultron chocked Vision and in turn Vision wiped out his "connection" with the internet. After using all his power Vision ended up shutting down and being at Ultron's mercy. Ultron could have destroyed him right then and there but he choose not to.

Ultron singled out Thor because he most likely analyzed him as being the biggest threat. "Thor you are bothering me" Ultron own words. Then he proceeded to go all out on Thor by knocking him around and then chocking him too. Thor was getting his ass handed to him but at the same time he was soaking it all like a champ and while being chocked and hearing Ultron's big plan..."I turn that key and drop this rock a little early and it's still billions dead, even you can't stop that." Thor even proceeded to stall just so Vision could use mjolnir on Ultron by knocking him hard and far away.

By the end Ultron went back at Vision with each one trading blows only for Ultron being blasted by the immense power of the Mind Stone. Ultron was taking the hit hard but was still moving forward and so Thor straight away realized that was the moment to have him against the ropes and so shot lighting from mjolnir being then accompanied by the double energy beams from Iron Man...the power of the trio severely incapacitated Ultron vibranium form.

And by the end Iron Man knew that Thor was the only one capable of hitting the vibranium core "hard enough to crack" and with his help "caping" the core on the other side, the blast would vaporize the city. So Ultron was wrong in the end because Iron Man did find a way of having Thor stop the impending disaster and saving billions of people.

 

[jaqua99]

^ agreed, he's been shown on multiple occasions to wield highly devastating power. Like, power stone levels of destruction whenever he nukes Sokovia and that chunk of Jotunheim. He doesn't often get the chance to display that level of power because he often has to worry about collateral.

And he's withstood tremendous punishment too with minimal visible injuries. Only Loki's dagger really hurt him for long and even then he was hardly injured.

I think the only thing he needs is a speed boost and more direct lightning attacks.

This. He just hasn't had wow scenes, but his power level is above every hero.

He also has like 5 striking feats greater than any other hero.

Joteheim nuke, sovakia nuke, launching three frost giants 200 feet with a spinning hammer (which itself is visually more devastating than a Hulk or Hulkbuster strike. Briefly shaking Hulk with an uppercut when he can clearly hit harder. Launching a tank into the air and destroying a tank by hitting cap's shield. He fought an infinity stone wielder and is the only avenger not to be taken out by force trauma.

Thor is far and away the most powerful. Don't get the complaints

 

[Flemm]

Don't get the complaints

I think it's just the lack of a "wow" sequence, or something that really says "super-strength" in an obvious way.

It's true that one can infer a lot of strength from certain things, but it's also possible for some viewers to come away with the opposite impression.

For example, in the WW movie,

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she just stands there holding a tank for a while, like it was nothing.

I wouldn't even describe it as a "wow" sequence, as it comes across almost as casual, like you or I might carry a backpack over our shoulder, while we try to answer a phone call or something.

Scenes like that help a lot in terms of perception.

 

[The Endless]

It comes down to a lack of imagination really.

 

[Loki882]

I agree that it's less of a lack of showing his power, so much as it's a lack of "wow" moments to REALLY show it off outright. If you've been paying attention, his being on another level compared to the other Avenger (except MAYBE Vision now) is pretty clear.

 

[HammerDown]

I think that the MCU tries to have each Avenger with a different set of skills without giving to much to one in particular and completely overshadowing the other characters and that makes everyone being able to contribute in their own way in a battle scenario. The Avengers are a team not necessarily a one man army which some of the avengers can really be. It's more about the team spirit which is great in it's own way.

Hulk - Is all about rage and "super-strength".
Thor - Is a god of thunder... wielder of a weapon of mass destruction.
Captain America - Is a super soldier with a indestructible shield.
Iron Man - Is a genius in a metal armored suit.
...

That's why it worked so well in the first Avengers. Everyone had a different set of skills that could make the difference in the bigger picture. Of course there's much more characteristics to each character but certain things are their "signature move". Of course Thor is super strong but they are not beating you over the head with that.

 

[HammerDown]

Oh and comparing the MCU feats with the DCEU feats is just dumb. Whatever man...
It's not all a dick measuring contest.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I think that the MCU tries to have each Avenger with a different set of skills without giving to much to one in particular and completely overshadowing the other characters and that makes everyone being able to contribute in their own way in a battle scenario. The Avengers are a team not necessarily a one man army which some of the avengers can really be. It's more about the team spirit which is great in it's own way.

Hulk - Is all about rage and "super-strength".
Thor - Is a god... wielder of a weapon of mass destruction.
Captain America - Is a super soldier with a indestructible shield.
Iron Man - Is a genius in a metal armored suit.
...

That's why it worked so well in the first avengers. Everyone had a different set of skills that could make the difference in the bigger picture. Of course there's much more characteristics to each character but certain things are their "signature move". Of course Thor is super strong but they are not beating you over the head with that.

Indeed. The way they've been handling power sets has allowed nearly everyone to have a "niche" on the team.

Sure it'd be cool to see Thor hold up something massive, but is that really necessary when he basically packs the highest firepower on the team? If the script calls for an action beat where like, a huge oil tanker is thrown from MILES away to hit the big bad in the face, wouldn't it be better for Hulk to be the one to do that instead of Thor? Thor should be saved for action beats that require something like a Godblast or tornado or something, which no other Avenger can really do.

 

[Docker2.0]

Oh and comparing the MCU feats with the DCEU feats is just dumb. Whatever man...
It's not all a dick measuring contest.

Ok that's fine and all for you to say so but a lot of people do, including myself. And as Marvel's powerhouse, there is also nothing wrong with seeing just where his strength level lies. He has shown with Mjolnir, he can cause massive destruction but he really hasn't shown just how much damage his fist would cause. I've often wondered would bullet hurt MCU Thor because I'm not even sure I've seen him hit by one.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[Docker2.0]

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