MessiahDecoy123
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If not, then why do conservatives blame poverty on a lack of ambition from poor people.
I don't think so - but there whole logic is that they should be able too make a job for themselves and that it is their responsibility - and it's fair logic, that isn't flawed, however history dictates that people need guidance, not everyone is born with that drive. I think that's where the problem lies, so much was given too past generations in how too create and run your own jobs, now it's a lot harder since so many people have become really good at running businesses in todays world. Look how many millionaires can let their company bankrupt but they remain rich, its crazy.
I don't think so - but there whole logic is that they should be able too make a job for themselves and that it is their responsibility - and it's fair logic, that isn't flawed, however history dictates that people need guidance, not everyone is born with that drive. I think that's where the problem lies, so much was given too past generations in how too create and run your own jobs, now it's a lot harder since so many people have become really good at running businesses in todays world. Look how many millionaires can let their company bankrupt but they remain rich, its crazy.
Yes it is. Despite what the "American Dream" tries to tell you, not every person has equal opportunities. There are many factors in society that can keep people poor and unemployed.
Yes it is. Despite what the "American Dream" tries to tell you, not every person has equal opportunities. There are many factors in society that can keep people poor and unemployed.
I would Disagree. My father came over from Greece as teenager not speaking English, had a 8th grade education and 40 dollars in his pocket. He is now a very successful business man. Where there is a true will there is a way.
It's hard to eliminate poverty in the US when there are groups of people that choose to live a certain way. They avoid education, have babies out of wedlock, and are continuing the cycle of dependance on welfare state. Refusing low wage jobs when you have no education, and rather choosing to collect off taxpayers. That is the case with some of those in poverty. You can't just hand them jobs they aren't qualified for. It is a societal problem they need to fix. Everyone, even the poor can get an education. Then you can be qualified for more than the low wage jobs of retail and food service.
It's hard to eliminate poverty in the US when there are groups of people that choose to live a certain way. They avoid education, have babies out of wedlock, and are continuing the cycle of dependance on welfare state. Refusing low wage jobs when you have no education, and rather choosing to collect off taxpayers. That is the case with some of those in poverty. You can't just hand them jobs they aren't qualified for. It is a societal problem they need to fix. Everyone, even the poor can get an education. Then you can be qualified for more than the low wage jobs of retail and food service.
I don't buy into the poor education system argument in most cases. The poor parenting system in these poverty ridden areas such as inner cities, is the biggest issue. The teachers have to do a lot to get certified to have students in the first place. These students are being taught the materials, and have every opportunity to work towards a decent education even in underfunded schools. Parents are not taking the time to do their job and get them learning. Why? Cause it is a cycle passed on to them, which they pass on inevitably. Their poor parents didn't work hard and get an education and it keeps coming down the line. The education they get? This is how you apply for foodstamps son. This is how you get section 8 housing son. This is how you get get money for having those babies, daughter. It is a societal issue. Either they care to become a better society or the problem continues.
I don't buy into the poor education system argument in most cases. The poor parenting system in these poverty ridden areas such as inner cities, is the biggest issue. The teachers have to do a lot to get certified to have students in the first place. These students are being taught the materials, and have every opportunity to work towards a decent education even in underfunded schools. Parents are not taking the time to do their job and get them learning. Why? Cause it is a cycle passed on to them, which they pass on inevitably. Their poor parents didn't work hard and get an education and it keeps coming down the line. The education they get? This is how you apply for foodstamps son. This is how you get section 8 housing son. This is how you get get money for having those babies, daughter. It is a societal issue. Either they care to become a better society or the problem continues.
Persevering increases your chances of becoming successful, but without a sufficient amount of luck, you won't get there. I suggest you read Outliers and A Drunkard's Walk.
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If not, then why do conservatives blame poverty on a lack of ambition from poor people.
I mean you can't take an absolutist stance because nobody is really making that statement. There will be unemployment and that's why we have a safety net so it's not really a fair argument you are making because Republicans often repeat the line we need a safety net not a hammock. And as far as public policy is concerned that is something you should always be concerned with. Does the policy disincentivize work and if so to what extent and is that a trade off that's worthwhile?
Case in point though that there does seem to be a lack of motivation from those on welfare considering South Dakota was practically begging for people to move there for good paying jobs, but people wouldn't get up and move there. You would think if you were on the dole for a long period of time you would jump at the opportunity, but that wasn't the case. So yes, there is something wrong with the system.
I think something is seriously wrong when people are so desperate they move to the middle of nowhere to feed themselves.
There's a reason these social programs were created after the Great Depression.