Are things going too fast?

[UltimateJustin]

I know they have to put Venom in the first season, but they didn't need to do it by introducing Beck, Chamelian and Black Cat at the same time as the symbiote. It takes away from the impact. Its still badass though, probably some of Spiderman's best quips are on this show.

 

[Havok83]

yes it is. Its WAY too early for them to do the black suit

 

[Stevens25]

The only major complaint I really have is that I wish Peter would've kept the black suit for at least another episode. How long did he wear it? 3 episodes?
But I guess you also have to look at ratings as well. I think some of this was probably rushed because they had no idea how good ratings would be and they wanted to get all the good stuff in just in case the show never made it past the first season(my guess anyway).

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Well, let's see. So far, we've gotten:

SSM
Vulture
Electro
Lizard
Shocker
Sandman
Rhino
Green Goblin
Dr. Octopus
Chameleon
Venom
Tombstone
Hammerhead

TAS
Lizard
Alistair Smythe
Kingpin
Dr. Octopus
Mysterio
Scorpion
Kraven the Hunter
Rhino
Shocker
Venom
Hobgoblin
Chameleon

Twelve villains in season one of both series. And I'm not counting characters who would later become villains like Norman Osborn in TAS; and Beck and Mason in SSM. I'm discounting the Enforcers and the Spider Slayers.

Though, Spidey had the symbiote longer in SSM than TAS.

 

[ironwez20]

i also agree i just finish watching ep 12 o yea they said there going to make peter grown up in the coming seasons

 

[Web-Head408]

yes it is. Its WAY too early for them to do the black suit

SM TAS did it even earlier in the show's run.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

SM TAS did it even earlier in the show's run.

Exactly, this show really is doing at the right time, which is towards the end of the first season.

 

[Cmill216]

SM TAS did it even earlier in the show's run.

But, to play devil's advocate, that doesn't justify SSM doing it.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea true but it probably wasnt the producers ideas to have venom this early like raimi probably sony made them use him this early.

 

[UltimateJustin]

Also, how much time is meant to have passed on the show so far? Cause wasn't it only a few episodes ago that it was homecoming, which is usually pretty early in the school year? Each season is supposed to be a semester?

It would be cooler if each season was a year so that it would space out his encounters with major villains better. Also, since the show is only going to get at best five seasons, we could actually have a show where Spidey starts off in hs and goes onto college.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Also, how much time is meant to have passed on the show so far? Cause wasn't it only a few episodes ago that it was homecoming, which is usually pretty early in the school year? Each season is supposed to be a semester?

It would be cooler if each season was a year so that it would space out his encounters with major villains better. Also, since the show is only going to get at best five seasons, we could actually have a show where Spidey starts off in hs and goes onto college.

Next week is Thanksgiving.

 

[Silver Spider]

Also, how much time is meant to have passed on the show so far? Cause wasn't it only a few episodes ago that it was homecoming, which is usually pretty early in the school year? Each season is supposed to be a semester?

It would be cooler if each season was a year so that it would space out his encounters with major villains better.

Well "Uncertainty Principle" was during Halloween, so it should be pretty close to the end of the semester now.

Also, since the show is only going to get at best five seasons, we could actually have a show where Spidey starts off in hs and goes onto college.

That's the plan.

 

[Silver Spider]

Next week is Thanksgiving.

cool.

 

[TheAQU4M4N]

i also agree i just finish watching ep 12 o yea they said there going to make peter grown up in the coming seasons

do you have a direct link dude?

 

[Webhead2006]

yea they said the seasons would be going through a whole sesmter of school. Season 1 is fall of junior yr. Season 2 will be spring of junior yr. Then if their plan for 5 seasons works out the rest of the seasons can pan on like this season 3 summer break between junior and senior yr. Season 4 fall of senior yr. Then season 5 spring of senior yr and graduation.

 

[spida-man]

yea they said the seasons would be going through a whole sesmter of school. Season 1 is fall of junior yr. Season 2 will be spring of junior yr. Then if their plan for 5 seasons works out the rest of the seasons can pan on like this season 3 summer break between junior and senior yr. Season 4 fall of senior yr. Then season 5 spring of senior yr and graduation.

it's funny cause i just got through with my junior year lol.

and to me, the only way this series seems to be going by fast is the fact that season 1 is bassically over

other than that verything moved at a nice pace. at least to me it seems that way.

 

[November Rain]

i'm surprised by people using venom as an argument, the real argument is the sinister six...

you don't throw the sinister six into the mix after revealing 8 villains, that's crazy too fast.

each one should have been stopped by spidey at least twice before even deciding he's too big a threat to take out individually and they NEED each other.

honestly, the only one missing that spidey hadn't fought was goblin and he made that a joke.

sinister six is season 3 material. I can't believe it wasn't even a two parter or a season finale, it was squeezed inside a venom arc. Really both storylines have a decent enough plot to hold their own time.

too fast.

 

[UltimateJustin]

i'm surprised by people using venom as an argument, the real argument is the sinister six...

you don't throw the sinister six into the mix after revealing 8 villains, that's crazy too fast.

each one should have been stopped by spidey at least twice before even deciding he's too big a threat to take out individually and they NEED each other.

honestly, the only one missing that spidey hadn't fought was goblin and he made that a joke.

sinister six is season 3 material. I can't believe it wasn't even a two parter or a season finale, it was squeezed inside a venom arc. Really both storylines have a decent enough plot to hold their own time.

too fast.

Too fast, but the fights were pretty sweet. Again, it may have just been done because they wanted it to be the quintessential Spiderman show and believed pretty firmly this would be their only season, so even though there was no logical way to pack ALL that is Spiderman into 13 episodes, they decided it'd be worth it to try.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

i'm surprised by people using venom as an argument, the real argument is the sinister six...

you don't throw the sinister six into the mix after revealing 8 villains, that's crazy too fast.

each one should have been stopped by spidey at least twice before even deciding he's too big a threat to take out individually and they NEED each other.

honestly, the only one missing that spidey hadn't fought was goblin and he made that a joke.

sinister six is season 3 material. I can't believe it wasn't even a two parter or a season finale, it was squeezed inside a venom arc. Really both storylines have a decent enough plot to hold their own time.

too fast.

So, are you going to complain about the 90s series moving too fast with the *snicker* Insidious Six? They were formed after each character was used once.

They also appeared really early on in the comics. But, I guess Stan Lee was moving things too fast too.

I will never understand this complaint.

 

[Anwar]

I don't think a lot here have read the comics from the very start and are more used to decompressed storytelling like in "Astonishing X-Men".

 

[Silver Spider]

i'm surprised by people using venom as an argument, the real argument is the sinister six...

you don't throw the sinister six into the mix after revealing 8 villains, that's crazy too fast.

each one should have been stopped by spidey at least twice before even deciding he's too big a threat to take out individually and they NEED each other.

honestly, the only one missing that spidey hadn't fought was goblin and he made that a joke.

sinister six is season 3 material. I can't believe it wasn't even a two parter or a season finale, it was squeezed inside a venom arc. Really both storylines have a decent enough plot to hold their own time.

too fast.

There's more than eight named villains Spidey's fought in this show. If you count Black Cat and Tombstone, he's fought about 15 named bad guys. And it's not like there was dozens of Spiderman villains, when the Sinister Six first appeared in the comics. If I recall, the Sinister Six was a very early story. I thought it was strange that they merged the SS appearance with the symbiote saga, but it was executed very well, imo.

 

[Anwar]

The Sinister Six were in the first Spidey annual. Only 1 year into his career, so in comics time it would've only been like a few months.

Strange that early Spidey comics aged him so fast compared to how it's done nowadays. He was 16 in ASM 1 and graduated by ASM 20, meaning he almost aged in real-time if he had just turned 16 when he became Spidey.

 

[November Rain]

There's more than eight named villains Spidey's fought in this show. If you count Black Cat and Tombstone, he's fought about 15 named bad guys. And it's not like there was dozens of Spiderman villains, when the Sinister Six first appeared in the comics. If I recall, the Sinister Six was a very early story. I thought it was strange that they merged the SS appearance with the symbiote saga, but it was executed very well, imo.

The first six villains he put down came back in their next apperance as the sinister six. Sorry but that feels far too quick.

I've never been one to believe what occurs in the comics is always right. TV is a different medium. A six part story arc in a comic may only take 2 eps, time moves differently, you can't always have enough scenes to show what parker is thinking etc....

It's not even that it was a true sinister six story, rather six villains were used as part of the symbiote arc and really had enough material to hold a two parter on their own.

Considering they still had venom and tombstone to ultimately deal with, throwing in the sinister six in there as well was a lil overkill. I mean why not throw the clone saga and man spider in there too.

You've just got to ask whether you felt it showed the six in their best light or in at least a better light than they were in as individuals. The six have a delicate story and unless properly showcase the team up lacks meaning.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

The first six villains he put down came back in their next apperance as the sinister six. Sorry but that feels far too quick.

I've never been one to believe what occurs in the comics is always right. TV is a different medium. A six part story arc in a comic may only take 2 eps, time moves differently, you can't always have enough scenes to show what parker is thinking etc....

It's not even that it was a true sinister six story, rather six villains were used as part of the symbiote arc and really had enough material to hold a two parter on their own.

Considering they still had venom and tombstone to ultimately deal with, throwing in the sinister six in there as well was a lil overkill. I mean why not throw the clone saga and man spider in there too.

You've just got to ask whether you felt it showed the six in their best light or in at least a better light than they were in as individuals. The six have a delicate story and unless properly showcase the team up lacks meaning.

Well, good thing it was properly showcased. Unlike a previous version where they were the Kingpin's flunkies.

 

[November Rain]

So, are you going to complain about the 90s series moving too fast with the *snicker* Insidious Six? They were formed after each character was used once.

They also appeared really early on in the comics. But, I guess Stan Lee was moving things too fast too.

I will never understand this complaint.

Well yeah, i'll go as far as to say in hindsight they did appear to early in both BUT i'll let the comics slide since the pacing back then was completely different.

a 13 ep series should have one underlying arc with a max of 3 mini arcs with some individual stories.

the six can carry a series, let alone a mini arc but to be crammed into a single ep of a venom arc only to serve the purpose of having the symbiote take them out while parker is asleep. Really, they could have used any villain under the sun for that, they weren't required.