Are you capable of murder?

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1.) Under what conditions would you, if any, be able to take someone's life?

(To clarify: I do not mean to say put someone out of their misery. I mean like clearly think, plan and kill out of hate, anger, etc..)

2.) Do you believe there is any cosmic, moral, greater significance in doing so? Do you value human life?

3.) If you could take another life, but you view it as immoral or evil, how would you redeem yourself?

4.) Even with just cause, how many lives would it take to make someone a "murderer"? In other words, how much is too much, before you are irredeemable and just a killer?


5.) In many ways, humanity is like a plague or virus, even to themselves. War, greed, all the sins and violence of man serves no purpose but to cause suffering. Whether by planetary suffering(pollution), physical suffering(torture, rape, murder), emotional (abuse; to others or even to ourselves); it seems that life might be better off without humans. Would you agree or disagree?
 
1) If someone broke into my apartment.
2) Depends on the price.
3) If I killed someone who broke into my apartment, I don't consider that immoral or evil. So "redeeming myself" would be a waste of time.
4) If I decided to make a living off killing people.
5) Mankind as a whole? While I've not seen many positives about our species, I don't think it deserves to be extinct. I can't make the case for some individuals though.
 
I think the only way to really determine the title's question is to put someone in that position. In dire situations, most people won't do what they thought they'd do.
 
What if someone hurt your family by accident? Like a guy dates your daughter and he's into drinking and drugs and stuff, and he owes some guys money...They break into your house, because they know that's where he is a lot of the time...and they hurt her to get at him.

It would be his fault, because he should have told you...But it's there fault because they like cut her or something. So would you hold him in the same categorey?

In other words, what is the rate of equivalent exchange? Is it even equivalent? Would you still kill them, if they didn't kill anyone?
 
1.) I think the only time I could kill someone is if I were in a situation where there were no other options to prevent someone from killing another person.
2.) I value human life, so killing is an absolute last resort.
3.) Probably by saving another life, kind of like an even trade.
4.) I think the moment you kill out of malicious intent and not for self-defense or defense of another person, it's murder.
5.) I like living, so I'm not willing to hit that giant reset button on all of humanity just yet.
 
What if someone hurt your family by accident? Like a guy dates your daughter and he's into drinking and drugs and stuff, and he owes some guys money...They break into your house, because they know that's where he is a lot of the time...and they hurt her to get at him.

This wouldn't happen, because no daughter of mine would be dating a bum like that to begin with.
 
What the hell? Murder is never right. I watch enough prime time crime dramas to know that I'd get caught, and I'm not spending the rest of my life in prison for anybody or any reason.

I'm not opposed to assault, though.
 
This wouldn't happen, because no daughter of mine would be dating a bum like that to begin with.

Heh. Well, you get the concept. I mean, like if someone hurt your family in a small way, would you still consider them eligible for death.
 
If someone killed my mother or wife/girlfriend or one of my best friends, then I am absolutely capable of murder, because I'd send that f***er to a morgue.
 
1.) Under what conditions would you, if any, be able to take someone's life?

(To clarify: I do not mean to say put someone out of their misery. I mean like clearly think, plan and kill out of hate, anger, etc..)

Given a certain set of wildly variable circumstances it's difficult to say with any brevity. I would take someone's life and there are many situations in which I would do it.

2.) Do you believe there is any cosmic, moral, greater significance in doing so? Do you value human life?

No there isn't any sort of absolute significance however I do value human life.

3.) If you could take another life, but you view it as immoral or evil, how would you redeem yourself?

Redemption is irrelevant.

4.) Even with just cause, how many lives would it take to make someone a "murderer"? In other words, how much is too much, before you are irredeemable and just a killer?

Circumstance is everything. Legally the first murder makes someone a murderer. However given the scenario where I am forced or choose to take someone's life I would say that as long as the situation continued to require that action there would be no numeral limit to the amount of deaths.

5.) In many ways, humanity is like a plague or virus, even to themselves. War, greed, all the sins and violence of man serves no purpose but to cause suffering. Whether by planetary suffering(pollution), physical suffering(torture, rape, murder), emotional (abuse; to others or even to ourselves); it seems that life might be better off without humans. Would you agree or disagree?

Are you a human? I am. I think my life would be significantly worse without humans.
 
What the hell? Murder is never right. I watch enough prime time crime dramas to know that I'd get caught, and I'm not spending the rest of my life in prison for anybody or any reason.

I'm not opposed to assault, though.

I appreciate your morally steadfast ideas. I pride myself on being sort of by-the-book at work and professionally however... Life as it revolves around you isn't black and white. If someone were going to kill you for instance would you kill them first? What about if someone were going to kill a loved one? What if someone was going to commit a genocide that would scar the human race for decades to come?

Absolutes like "murder is never right" work well in a court of law but very poorly anywhere else.
 
If someone were going to kill you for instance would you kill them first?
That would be killing in self defense. That's justifiable homicide.

What about if someone were going to kill a loved one?
If they were immediately about to kill a loved one? It's still justifiable homicide. Otherwise, like I said, I'm not opposed to committing assault. I'm more than willing to put someone in the hospital.

What if someone was going to commit a genocide that would scar the human race for decades to come?
Hospitalization, ahoy!


Incidentally, I might commit a few voluntary manslaughters.
 
Never want to ever kill somebody, only way I would ever truly even attack somebody would be they were attacking either the woman I love, my family, or close friends but never murder.
 
I would be if they killed/going to kill someone I love.

Simple as that.
 
i would be, easily.

however, i'd need to not know much about the person i was killing. when i think too much into it, things would probably get complicated.
 
No, I could never ever intentionally end someones life. I'm an Atheist, so that would be taking everything from them, in my mind.
 
No, I could never ever intentionally end someones life. I'm an Atheist, so that would be taking everything from them, in my mind.

In that regard there would be things worse then death...From an atheist perspective, technically it would make certain things FAR worse.
 
That would be killing in self defense. That's justifiable homicide.


If they were immediately about to kill a loved one? It's still justifiable homicide. Otherwise, like I said, I'm not opposed to committing assault. I'm more than willing to put someone in the hospital.


Hospitalization, ahoy!


Incidentally, I might commit a few voluntary manslaughters.[/quote]

That would be semantics. Also, "justifiable homocide" is still homocide furtermore it doesn't become "justifiable" until a judge says so. So you would be willing to commit homocide if you felt a judge would consider that homocide justifiable?

Also voluntary manslaughter is another semantic issue that isn't determined until after the fact. No one can really set out to commit a "voluntary manslaughter".
 
I think in a fit of rage, I could do it. I know there have been times where I was so angry I have wished very bad things on people. Whether it's moral, regertable, and such, in those circumstances, I don't think I would care.
 
I can't honestly say. It would depend on the situation... and situations of such type are hard to imagine in the cold light of day, realistically.

I'm not willing to say that if a monkey attempted to rape my mother I would get a chainsaw and cut that ****er up... I just don't know. What were the conditions? Was my mother teasing him? Was she wearing revealing clothing? Who knows. I'm not going to kill the monkey unless it truly deserves it, mother or not.

Think about all the variables here. I have no idea if I could kill someone. I only know that I'd like to ;p
 
If they were immediately about to kill a loved one? It's still justifiable homicide. Otherwise, like I said, I'm not opposed to committing assault. I'm more than willing to put someone in the hospital.


Hospitalization, ahoy!


Incidentally, I might commit a few voluntary manslaughters.

That would be semantics. Also, "justifiable homocide" is still homocide furtermore it doesn't become "justifiable" until a judge says so. So you would be willing to commit homocide if you felt a judge would consider that homocide justifiable?

Also voluntary manslaughter is another semantic issue that isn't determined until after the fact. No one can really set out to commit a "voluntary manslaughter".[/QUOTE]


Its semantics and its legal terms as well.

Murder, legally, (in Georgia) is the killing of a human being with malice aforethought or during the commission of a felony.

Voluntary mansluaghter, legally, is an intentional , non-malicious killing.
 
Majic Walrus said:
That would be semantics. Also, "justifiable homocide" is still homocide furtermore it doesn't become "justifiable" until a judge says so. So you would be willing to commit homocide if you felt a judge would consider that homocide justifiable?

Also voluntary manslaughter is another semantic issue that isn't determined until after the fact. No one can really set out to commit a "voluntary manslaughter".


Its semantics and its legal terms as well.

Murder, legally, (in Georgia) is the killing of a human being with malice aforethought or during the commission of a felony.

Voluntary mansluaghter, legally, is an intentional , non-malicious killing.

Understandable, but we're talking about would you commit a particular act. You don't have the luxury of being able to determine whether or not a court of law will convict you of murder, voluntary manslaughter, or declare a mistrail.

It's irrelavent in this argument.
 
Given the situation of maybe defense,or survival yes. But to plot out premeditated murder, that would require someone really really REALLY doing me wrong
 

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