Aronofsky's Next -- Black Swan

[Sgt.Pepper]

Darren Aronofsky acknowledged similarities between the films, but it wasn’t influenced by it. I haven't seen it but it certainly looks interesting.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, or if I mentioned it already, but did anyone who's seen the anime Perfect Blue kind of feel like Black Swan reminded them of that anime? The basic groundwork of the premise, the way the main character's life blurs between reality, imagination, and delusion, etc. It's just funny, 'cause I've always wondered if anyone would ever make a live-action Perfect Blue movie (I'd be genuinely surprised if they hadn't done it already in Japan), and looking at Black Swan, I feel like it's as close of an adaptation as you could get, without it being that film.

Yeah, I actually brought that up after I watched the film. The thing that struck at first was the similar names (Mima in Perfect Blue vs Nina in Black Swan), and the characters have so much similarities. Trying to being held back by a mother figure (a literal mother in Black Swan, and the manager in Perfect Blue), both are basically innocent girls who are going into roles that are way above them, not necessarily in talent, but in understanding (the black swan part for Nina, and the crime drama for Mima), both have trippy doppelgangers. And the film deals a lot with kind of awakening repressed sexuality, though PB does it more subtly I think. They're pretty different in the end, but some very striking similarities caught my attention as well. But, as far as the films and characters, I think they're very similar in hinting what actually might be going on beside the straightforward narrative we're given.

And, fun fact, Aronofsky actually bought the remake rights to Perfect Blue to copy a scene from it for Requiem for a Dream. Not sure if it still has it, or if it's lapsed, though. PB started out as a live action film, but due to the studio producing it having financial troubles, they decided to go animated for budget concerns.

 

[MadVillainy]

*sigh* you know I actually think the Tyler Perry movies has good teaser posters, but the actual movies suck. And this poster is just...ugh

 

[Darkness Falls]

saw this movie the other day
really enjoyed it

didn't know what it was about so i was pleasantly surprised

9/10

 

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

Just who the hell is Tyler Perry that I keep seeing,this,this, this man-thing everywhere??!!!

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

New Featurette

Natalie Portman talks about the training to get her ready for the role.

 

[spider-neil]

was nervous about watching this movie as I absolutely HATED the fountain, but I needn't have been worried as this movie absolutely blew me away. portman HAS to take the oscar. this is her best role since loen.

has to be said though, this movie really reminded me of perfect blue, probably coincedence rather than the director nicking ideas from a manga movie.

 

[Kane52630]

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[Mace Bloodstone]

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Whoa!!

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Watched it again for the second time yesterday. Even though The Fountain is still my favorite Aronofsky film, Black Swan is a very close runner-up.

 

[Maximus One]

Finally watched this last week and just WOW! What an experience! Aronofsky has an uncanny ability to just take you on these incredibly emotional journeys and somehow makes you feel like you are on this journey with the lead protagonists. So seriously amazing, I honestly never thought that a movie about a ballerina going bat**** crazy could be so engaging and beautifully portrayed. Almost a week later and I'm still soaking it all in. I really do think there was some kind of sexual abuse going on on the mother's part too. It wasn't presented in a matter of fact way but it was definitely implied, no doubt about that. That scene when she slammed her mom's hand in the door and is looking in the mirror got a massive WTF out of me as well, and in my eyes that's usually a good thing but here it was just amazing. Just WOW

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Blu-Ray/DVD come out March 29th! I can't wait to get it!

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=74782

 

[Matt Mortem]

Watched it again for the second time yesterday. Even though The Fountain is still my favorite Aronofsky film, Black Swan is a very close runner-up.

I feel the same way

 

[El Payaso]

Once again Aronofsky achieves to dissapoint me with his razzle dazzle and editing with no much meat to offer to the brain.

If you're trying to achieve an 'unpredictable ending' then it has to be unpredictable. 20 minutes into the movie I thought it was so much like [BLACKOUT]The Fight Club.[/BLACKOUT] And then the rest of the movie was a long confirmation of this thought. Every single weird thing was clearly justified and seen just like in [BLACKOUT]The Fight Club.[/BLACKOUT] And in the end, the "explanation" was exactly that. The very same thing this time played just for the sake of empty theatricality. Because after we 'get' what's happening even the director knows there's little point in trying to expand the message or the implications of the "secret"; we were shocked by the effects and that's all it matters.

Even so, it entertains the senses while it lasts.

2/5

 

[DACrowe]

^^ I have no idea what you're talking about comparing it to Fight Club (no "the"). They're not remotely similar in subject, subtext or plot. Mila Kunis, for the record, was real and not in her head. Whether much of their relationship was real or not (the sex clearly wasn't) is a matter of interpretation and endless debate. Tyler Durden is very clearly in Norton's head in Fight Club. Oh and Norton lives and gets the girl at the end after sending the world into a worldwide shutdown. Nina dies for her art at the end and there are (most likely) no imaginary characters.

I don't no what you're going on about at all. If this movie shares a lot of similarities to something, it is Aronofsky's own The Wrestler. And even then you can see how they compliment teach other, but are still very different movies.

 

[El Payaso]

^^ I have no idea what you're talking about comparing it to [BLACKOUT]Fight Club (no "the").[/BLACKOUT] They're not remotely similar in subject, subtext or plot. [BLACKOUT]Mila Kunis, for the record, was real and not in her head.[/BLACKOUT] Whether much of their relationship was real or not (the sex clearly wasn't) is a matter of interpretation and endless debate. [BLACKOUT]Tyler Durden is very clearly in Norton's head in Fight Club.[/BLACKOUT] Oh and [BLACKOUT]Norton[/BLACKOUT] lives and gets the girl at the end after sending the world into a worldwide shutdown. Nina dies for her art at the end and there are (most likely) no imaginary characters.

I don't no what you're going on about at all. If this movie shares a lot of similarities to something, it is Aronofsky's own The Wrestler. And even then you can see how they compliment teach other, but are still very different movies.

I was clearly refering to the narrative devices and how they're presented so you should think there's [BLACKOUT]a person there that there really wasn't.[/BLACKOUT] I didn't mean every single detail. It's like when you reach the end of [BLACKOUT]The Others[/BLACKOUT] and you find the same twist as [BLACKOUT]The Sixth Sense[/BLACKOUT].

Nina, btw, [BLACKOUT]didn't die "for her art."[/BLACKOUT] She died because she was [BLACKOUT]a freeking looney.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[DACrowe]

But it was the same twist in The Others as The Sixth Sense...or at least a very similar one. There is not much of a twist in BS....or at least a very small one (she didn't kill Mila Kunis, rather herself). But that twist is not the same as Fight Club's huge twist.

Now are there scenes of her talking to people who may not really be there, as well as doing....things with them? Sure, but that is not a major reveal at the end of the movie. You usually find out right afterwards (her skin is still on her hand, Kunis is shocked by the lesbian fantasy, etc.). It's not so much a narrative subplot that is hinted at throughout as she is clearly "loony" and much of what we see we know very early is in her head (starting with said finger-skin rip).

And Nina very much did die for her art. It is happy, because she was "perfect." She was afraid of her dark impulses and hid them her whole life. She finally had to confront them to become perfect for this performance which required her killing her childlike innocence. For someone as repressed as her, it became an actual self-mutiliation. But at the end she could have sought help when she realized what she did....instead she went on. She had to be perfect. And she was. Hence the fade to white as opposed to the downtrodden fade out of Aronofsky's last movie.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I was clearly refering to the narrative devices and how they're presented so you should think there's [BLACKOUT]a person there that there really wasn't.[/BLACKOUT] I didn't mean every single detail. It's like when you reach the end of [BLACKOUT]The Others[/BLACKOUT] and you find the same twist as [BLACKOUT]The Sixth Sense[/BLACKOUT].

Nina, btw, [BLACKOUT]didn't die "for her art."[/BLACKOUT] She died because she was [BLACKOUT]a freeking looney.[/BLACKOUT]

I think you're missing the point of the movie. DACrowe explained it best so I'll just say this: you may need to watch the movie again if you think this offers nothing to the brain.

 

[Batman713]

Once again Aronofsky achieves to dissapoint me with his razzle dazzle and editing with no much meat to offer to the brain.

If you're trying to achieve an 'unpredictable ending' then it has to be unpredictable. 20 minutes into the movie I thought it was so much like [BLACKOUT]The Fight Club.[/BLACKOUT] And then the rest of the movie was a long confirmation of this thought. Every single weird thing was clearly justified and seen just like in [BLACKOUT]The Fight Club.[/BLACKOUT] And in the end, the "explanation" was exactly that. The very same thing this time played just for the sake of empty theatricality. Because after we 'get' what's happening even the director knows there's little point in trying to expand the message or the implications of the "secret"; we were shocked by the effects and that's all it matters.

Even so, it entertains the senses while it lasts.

2/5

 

[dark_b]

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[El Payaso]

You're bald.

 

[Kane52630]

noone will take this?then i will.

thanks

Angel Faerie did

 

[DIRECTOR]

knowing that the whole dance sequences in the movie was done by Natalie Portman's double and they plastered her face on the double, I don't quite agree how Portman got an Oscar.

I'm sure the Academy didn't know that, because if they did I don't think Natalie won't have won

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

I think the whole "controversy" ridiculous. I don't think the Academy wouldn't give her the award if they knew earlier about the dance double.

They gave Portman the award because of her gripping performance.

 

[Lasirius]

She did most of the dancing hereself though she did use a double at times. Her dancing doesn't have too much to do with her performance in the movie.