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Article: Sorry Ryan Reynolds, Chris Pratt Is Having Your Career

I like both of them and they both are talented actors. Difference is Pratt made good decisions and Reynolds made terrible ones. Pratt got Guardians of the Galaxy... Reynolds got Green Lantern, which effectively killed his mainstream career just as he was on the rise. Now he's stuck doing indie films and small passion projects like Deadpool.
 
Shia is like "fetch"

It was never gonna happen, no matter how hard Spielberg wanted it to

Yeah, which is why I'm really skeptical of Spielberg returning to direct a new Indiana Jones with Pratt in the fedora. Spielberg's obsession with making LaBeouf a star makes me think he lost it for good a long time ago. What was he thinking?
 
In fairness, it's not like Shia has a lack of talent as much as he's just a garbage person in reality.
 
Shia has talent. He was never "leading man" material like Hollywood tried to tell us, but he has talent, imo. Like Sawyer said, it's really his terrible real-life persona that kills his appeal.

I've just personally never found Reynolds particularly likable in anything, and he kept taking roles that were meant to be driven by charisma. Whenever he does "charming," it comes across as "smarmy" to me, so I never got the appeal to begin with.
 
Shia could have been something special but he f***ed that all up when he disrespected Spielberg and became outspoken and holier-than-thou. Yeah, now he's known as crazy and a rightfully unlikable person in real life, but he had A-list stardom on a silver platter courtesy of Spielberg, one of the most powerful men in Hollywood.
 
Yeah, which is why I'm really skeptical of Spielberg returning to direct a new Indiana Jones with Pratt in the fedora. Spielberg's obsession with making LaBeouf a star makes me think he lost it for good a long time ago. What was he thinking?

Spielberg hasn't lost it. Lincoln was one of his best films.
 
Personally I want to see Pratt lead a film that doesn't rely on CGI and jokes. He's a good movie star but I'm curious as to how good of an actor he actually is.

Probably in Passengers is where we will see the first opportunity. He's never done romantic lead before, which requires a bit more sensitivity.
 
In fairness, it's not like Shia has a lack of talent as much as he's just a garbage person in reality.

You cant be too controversial, or audiences can and will turn on you. It's not like back in the day when there was no twitter or social media. Stars are more accessible than ever, and so the pedestal is gone.
 
I do hate the build em up to knock em down culture. Pratt will suffer the knock down soon enough. That doesn't mean he will stay down but he will be knocked down.
 
I do hate the build em up to knock em down culture. Pratt will suffer the knock down soon enough. That doesn't mean he will stay down but he will be knocked down.

Doing something like Passengers will hopefully curb that. Variety is what will keep him fresh.
 
I do hate the build em up to knock em down culture. Pratt will suffer the knock down soon enough. That doesn't mean he will stay down but he will be knocked down.

Right now he'd need to punch a baby or yell a racial slur at a little old black Jewish holocaust survivor to suffer any sort of negative PR.
 
Right now he'd need to punch a baby or yell a racial slur at a little old black Jewish holocaust survivor to suffer any sort of negative PR.

Exactly. The man is channelling 'JLaw circa Catching Fire' levels of positive. He could punch several babies and Buzzfeed would be salivating with joy.
 
Chris Pratt appeals to many demographics. And his family guy, funny, charming persona helps.
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Pratt and Reynolds are very similar when on screen. yes i went there.
 
Why must everything be a battle?

Life is competition and a battle. Hollywood is no different. But this isn't a battle it's just a comparison

I like both of them and they both are talented actors. Difference is Pratt made good decisions and Reynolds made terrible ones. Pratt got Guardians of the Galaxy... Reynolds got Green Lantern, which effectively killed his mainstream career just as he was on the rise. Now he's stuck doing indie films and small passion projects like Deadpool.

Agreed. That basically is it

Shia could have been something special but he f***ed that all up when he disrespected Spielberg and became outspoken and holier-than-thou. Yeah, now he's known as crazy and a rightfully unlikable person in real life, but he had A-list stardom on a silver platter courtesy of Spielberg, one of the most powerful men in Hollywood.

It's a damn shame about Shia. Ive liked him since Even Stevens.

He was good in Fury, that was a step in the right direction but I haven't seen or heard of him doing anything since then.

Personally I want to see Pratt lead a film that doesn't rely on CGI and jokes. He's a good movie star but I'm curious as to how good of an actor he actually is.

I wanna see that too.

I saw flashes of it in Guardians (Awesome Mix Vol. 2 :csad:) but I wanna see a whole movie without jokes and CGI

Pratt and Reynolds are very similar when on screen. yes i went there.

I agree
 
Well Chris also cut his teeth on TV as the lovable and chubby Andy, or regulated to playing the funny best friend in rom-coms. Pratt is a bit of an underdog who broke through that glass ceiling.

I think people consciously have seen him grow as an actor, especially the physical part. I think that resinates with the audience a bit. Ryan Reynolds, in whom I like, didn't go through a physical transformation.
 
Well Chris also cut his teeth on TV as the lovable and chubby Andy, or regulated to playing the funny best friend in rom-coms. Pratt is a bit of an underdog who broke through that glass ceiling.

I think people consciously have seen him grow as an actor, especially the physical part. I think that resinates with the audience a bit. Ryan Reynolds, in whom I like, didn't go through a physical transformation.

eh I disagree with that. We've seen Reynolds grow. From Van Wilder to Blade Trinity to something like Buried.

The problem is that he just doesn't pick good roles.
 
But the timing. We live in an era where Pratt tweeted before and after pics of himself.

But he is now. What was the kiss of death, or was it the string of bombs that killed his momentum? I think Green Lantern was the one that really hit his career hard. Not just him but Blake Lively too.

Podcaster Korey from Spill.com (RIP) once said that Ryan keeps missing the boat several times, and that ship has sailed.
 
Too many bad films killed Reynolds' career just as it was taking off. I doubt Deadpool can turn back the tide at this point.
 
My doom prediction : Deadpool will be a drop in the ocean of We-Don't-Care, the fans alone will not be able to save the movie.
 
I really don't know about Deadpool.

Something like the R rated Kingsmen making so much money does give me hope. However, I don't know how "out there" the Deadpool script is. I actually have that leaked first draft I just haven't read it yet.

People in the Deadpool Box Office thread acted like Deadpool is this big huge character that everyone knows and love but that just isn't true.

My prediction for Deadpool is a bit more conservative
 
But the timing. We live in an era where Pratt tweeted before and after pics of himself.

But he is now. What was the kiss of death, or was it the string of bombs that killed his momentum? I think Green Lantern was the one that really hit his career hard. Not just him but Blake Lively too.

Podcaster Korey from Spill.com (RIP) once said that Ryan keeps missing the boat several times, and that ship has sailed.

I think it was the string of bombs, or at least crappy movies, more than anything. That and the bad choices. GL just put the nail in the coffin.

I mean what was Pratt's cinematic breakout role? Guardians, a superhero movie. Reynolds tried to invoke the same thing 3 times with Blade 3, XMOW, and GL. If any of them were big successes he would've been on a complete different trajectory.

The thing is all his movies that were poorly received I rarely read or heard that he was the problem.
 
the underdog aspect of Pratt has really helped him he is essential one of us IMO I'm so glad he got a shot
 
These things go in cycles. Every year Hollywood picks some white dude and decides they will be the next big leading man. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

Reynolds choose roles that didn't do him any favours.

I have nothing against Reynolds or Pratt but I wouldn't be so quick to crown anyone because we have seen these flavour of the month actors come and go.

Pratt is on a role but we could easily see him get backlash like Jennifer Lawrence got after her quick ascent to the big time.
 

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