Better Call Saul! - Breaking Bad Spinoff A Go At AMC

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Last night's episode was fantastic. The reveal that Chuck was the one who screwed Jimmy/Saul over (twice) was heartbreaking. I never saw it coming, yet it makes perfect sense. Also, LOVED seeing Mike take out that one *****ebag with all the guns.

I think Gus will show up, too. I think he has to, if we are going to see the full origin of Mike. Jimmy might not have any interaction with him, and that's fine. But I feel like Mike will have to if we continue to follow his storyline.
 
Those final 5 minutes were heartbreaking. Fantastic stuff.

And I was not expecting Trevor Philips as the guy in the garage. That caught me off guard BIG TIME. :awesome:
 
Wow, I've been away for a long time. Both Kvz5 and Flickchick mods? Damn.

Those last five minutes... :wow: Right in the feels.
 
LOVE the show but the one thing that I do not understand if this show takes place in the past (in the year 2002) how is Mike's granddaughter about the same age or so as she is in BB?
 
LOVE the show but the one thing that I do not understand if this show takes place in the past (in the year 2002) how is Mike's granddaughter about the same age or so as she is in BB?
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Can't say I was expecting to see Trevor in Better Call Saul.

I honestly wasn't feeling the first half of the episode, but the second half more than made up for it.
 
Which one was Trevor?? Was it the dude with the guns?? Anyways, great episode. That last scene, good god.
 
An absolutely incredible penultimate episode of Better Call Saul. Utterly devastating. The origin story of Saul Goodman is right here, the whole season coming to a head and offering some insight into what could possibly turn the emerging hero Jimmy McGill into someone so disillusioned and mercenary. A total belter of a performance from Bob Odenkirk here, and from Michael McKean too.

I saw the twist that Chuck had called Hamlin to sabotage the deal coming from pretty early on. But, stupid me, I was thinking it was for motives that were, in Chuck's mind at least, altruistic: that Jimmy would be better off with the money to invest in his own firm and be his own person, rather than being mired down in a case too big for him, basically the argument Kim laid out to Jimmy. So when it home and we got the full revelation that Chuck had not only undermined Jimmy here, but undermined him from the very beginning of his law career, and that his motivations were mired in bitterness over "Slippin' Jimmy" presuming to become a lawyer and a refusal to believe his brother could ever change and be a better person... what a gut-punch. And just watching his face fall and take on that ashen, stone-faced expression as he realise Jimmy knows and his mask slips... brilliant work by McKean.

I loathed Chuck by the end of that speech, utterly loathed him. I've seen some try to justify Chuck's actions by saying we don't know how many times he's tried to help Jimmy and been burned in the past, and MAYBE I'd buy that if this was just a case of Chuck openly blocking Jimmy's progress in the legal field. But what makes Chuck truly despicable is that he didn't have the integrity to do that. Instead he hid his sabotage behind Hamlin so that he could continue to exploit Jimmy and have him wait on him hand-and-foot and care for him day after day. Thinking back on all the stuff Jimmy did to look after Chuck, even tailoring the tin-foil suit in this episode, now makes my stomach turn. I can now totally understand Jimmy reinventing himself as the tacky Saul Goodman and making a total mockery of the legal system all as an elaborate means of sticking it to his brother, and it's even somewhat justifiable.

Mike was also great here. The scene where he beats the hell out of the gun-toting poseur, the negotiation scene with the $20, even the discussion about being a criminal afterwards... just virtuoso work from Jonathan Banks.
 
Yeah, Saul Goodman seems like a 'In your face, Chuck!' type of thing Jimmy could do to basically denigrate the one thing that Chuck holds above everything else, the law. He said the law is sacred. Who thinks that way? Who uses religious terms regarding something so inherently secular? I mean we already know Chuck has some mental issues with the electromagnetism allergy thing but clearly he has even more bug-a-boos.
 
Wow, I was convinced that Chuck would die and that would start Jimmy on his path towards becoming Saul, and I was dreading that eventuality. What actually happened was so much more agonizing to watch.

I can understand why Chuck would be leery about allowing Jimmy into his firm: he found the medical bills for the skateboarders and figured something was up; he knew Jimmy set up the billboard stunt; and Jimmy also took the bribe from the Kettlemans. Chuck didn't know about the bribe but we do and it's an indication that Jimmy really shouldn't be working at a major firm. If Chuck had pointed to these previous events and pitched the compromise the way Kim did about being independent then Jimmy might have gone along with it. Instead he was as hurtful as possible. I can't think of anything crueler than to tell your brother that he's a chimp with a machine gun.

On a lighter note, I adored Price. Dude was so nerdy that even pre-Heisenberg Walter White would've shoved his head in a toilet. I want him and Mike to work together some more.
 
This was an excellent episode. What's could be said has already been said. This could be the beginning of Jimmy's descent into Saul Goodman.
 
I saw the Chuck betrayal coming, but the sheer brutality of it really shook me.

Did that warehouse where the drug deal went down look familiar? I'm feeling a real Gus vibe coming up.
 
I saw the Chuck betrayal coming, but the sheer brutality of it really shook me.

Did that warehouse where the drug deal went down look familiar? I'm feeling a real Gus vibe coming up.

I thought of the chicken farm as well but in the end it was a different place.
 
I'm kind of curious what this means for Hamlin. All the times he's been dicking Jimmy over, it's been (presumably) on Chuck's orders. I wonder what he actually thinks of Jimmy.
 
Yeah, I think Gus is coming. Maybe sooner than we think! I hope so. I can never get enough Gus Fring. Greatest television villain of all time, as far as I'm concerned.
 
I'm kind of curious what this means for Hamlin. All the times he's been dicking Jimmy over, it's been (presumably) on Chuck's orders. I wonder what he actually thinks of Jimmy.

Well, Hamlin is a weasel in his own right but yeah... after this revelation, I get the impression that he probably would have worked with Jimmy if Chuck hadn't put a stop to it. He may be an A-hole but if he truly had some vendetta with Jimmy, he probably would have fired Kim a long time ago.
 
Yeah, I think Gus is coming. Maybe sooner than we think! I hope so. I can never get enough Gus Fring. Greatest television villain of all time, as far as I'm concerned.

Is it weird that I never really think of Gus as a villain? I mean, sure he was an antagonist in Walt's story, but aside from making threats to Walt's family and (possibly) ordering his guys to take out Andrea's little brother, his victims were all more or less deserving.
 
I can understand why Chuck would be leery about allowing Jimmy into his firm: he found the medical bills for the skateboarders and figured something was up; he knew Jimmy set up the billboard stunt; and Jimmy also took the bribe from the Kettlemans. Chuck didn't know about the bribe but we do and it's an indication that Jimmy really shouldn't be working at a major firm. If Chuck had pointed to these previous events and pitched the compromise the way Kim did about being independent then Jimmy might have gone along with it. Instead he was as hurtful as possible. I can't think of anything crueler than to tell your brother that he's a chimp with a machine gun.


Like someone else mentioned,I think Chuck's rationale would be understandable had he not been undermining his brother's career in a sneaky manner, all while using said brother as his own personal nurse.

Great episode. I think everyone figured that Chuck would be the key to Jimmy becoming Saul, but the way they've done it is brilliant.
 
Yeah, I think Gus is coming. Maybe sooner than we think! I hope so. I can never get enough Gus Fring. Greatest television villain of all time, as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, Gus is at the very least a top 5 all time villain.

Him and Mike being back together on tv would be pure bliss.
 
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