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Oh for pity's sake! Do you even know what "foreshadowing" is?KrypJonian said:I don't get it. This isn't foreshadowing anything.
It's not like Lara has psychic abilities or anything. Plus, she's dead. She will not be holding anything in her arms or pinching any cheeks.
Desk said:Oh for pity's sake! Do you even know what "foreshadowing" is?
It's a storytelling device. It has nothing to do with the characters being psychic or knowing what's to unfold in the story ahead... it's about the author - the person telling the tale - establishing ideas or themes which tie-in with and compliment upcoming events.
For example... Lara is idly thinking about family, and the possibility of her son becoming a father... which is something that the reader discovers actually comes to pass later in the tale.
Matt said:My problem with the kid
1) Its not the right time, you don't restart a franchise with a 30 year old sequel and a kid.
2) Supes has been a dead beat dad
3) All action movie kids by definition suck and are annoying.
Because Jason & Lois are being held captive by Lex..Jason has to be Superman's son?explode7 said:^ It has to be supes kid else the kid being in danger in the luthor scene is pointless.
KrypJonian said:I don't get it. This isn't foreshadowing anything.
It's not like Lara has psychic abilities or anything. Plus, she's dead. She will not be holding anything in her arms or pinching any cheeks.
I think you're reading too much into this. (In best Gordon voice) "But I've been wrong before..."
That pretty much nails it, right there. We can assume Singer INTENDS for that kiss to be in continuity because otherwise, he would have no reason to include SII in his vague history (since he already said he intends to ignore Zod, the only other relevant thing that happens in the film).lujho said:Anyway, apart from what others are saying about the kid, my problem is that it builds on - hinges on - elements from Superman 2 that I simply do not like at all . Primarily the memory-erasing kiss. I hate that element, and the fact that in Superman Returns Lois doesn't even know that Clark is Superman, and yet had a kid with her means that that kiss still happened in continuity. I can't just ignore it because Returns delinberately points it out again.
Because what you like isn't what I like.SpiderDaniel said:Tell me what don`t u like about what i said? How can a Superman fan not like this plot is beyond me.
Oh please. It's a hackneyed soap opera plot that Singer has stapled onto Superman. If I want psychological storytelling, I'll read Alan Moore.Maybe its because its very psychollogical but in essense,
Translation: "ZOMG EVE1 WHO DOESNT LIKE TEH SR IS TEH NAZI OMG WTF!!!11ELEVEN!"If you don`t like it, fine by me. But i know i prefer Singers version than any of you guys haters.
Actually, the reason I'm not an acclaimed storyteller is because I'm nineteen and still in college. Give me a few years.Thats why he is an acclaimed director and great storyteller and you`re not. Simple as that.
You need to read my posts more carefully, then. I can't be blamed for your foolishness.SpiderDaniel said:You cant deny you and Oldguys are always criticizing this movie. I`ve seen you guys saying bad things about this movie all the time. More than praising it. So, yes, i consider you guys haters. But i respect u and agree to disagree with your opinion.