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[Schlosser85]

Chauvin's whole defense was pretty much 'George Floyd just so happened to die from drugs when I was kneeling on his neck for nine minutes'. 'Also kneeling on his neck while he was cuffed and had three other officers restraining him was totally reasonable force' .

Personally I would find it hard to buy that none of Chauvin's actions contributed to Floyd's death if I was a juror on this trial.

We have seen cops get off before though so nothing is guaranteed.
Despite all the talk of freedom and democracy there are plenty of people that seem in favor of fascism or authoritarianism if they believe it benefits them.

Not obeying a police officers commands within 30 seconds is an offence worthy of instant execution according to some of these police worshippers.

Chauvin blatantly unnecessarily murdered Floyd. There’s just not really any other objective way to see it, IMO. But all it takes is one juror to let him get away with it.

 

[Sithborg]

I'm not a trial expert. But I'm going to say a 2 hour closing argument is generally not helpful to your case.


Are... are they going for an incompetant counsel appeal???

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm not a trial expert. But I'm going to say a 2 hour closing argument is generally not helpful to your case.


Are... are they going for an incompetant counsel appeal???

I haven’t thought his lawyer sounded the brightest in any clip I’ve seen of him.

 

[Schlosser85]

So is this just the jury deliberations now?

 

[Sithborg]

So is this just the jury deliberations now?

Yup. If we don't get a verdict tomorrow, that is a bad sign.

 

[terry78]

Wonder how many of those jurors are getting leaned on by supporters of Chauvin

 

[Schlosser85]

Wonder how many of those jurors are getting leaned on by supporters of Chauvin

I’d be curious if any of them have gotten death threats and from whom. Or otherwise harassed.

 

[InCali]

Yup. If we don't get a verdict tomorrow, that is a bad sign.

I don't know how jury decisions are reached, but there are separate charges. It seems to me that you could have agreement on some charges and another might be more difficult to reach. If they deadlock on a particular charge, but agree on others, that could take quite awhile.

If that were to happen, wouldn't he be convicted and the DA would have the option of retrying the case on a single charge?

 

[Detective Conan]

The optimist in me tells me he’ll be convicted, but the cynic in me that’s used to cops getting away with killing black people tells me he’ll be acquitted. It’s very hard to convict cops in this country, so I’ll keep my expectations in check.

 

[terry78]

I'm feeling a tad uneasy about it, but there's a chance they actually went the other way. I'm just bracing myself for idiots to start doing stupid **** when they don't even care about the injustice.

 

[Schlosser85]

Verdict will be announced between 3:30-4:30 eastern.

The optimist in me tells me he’ll be convicted, but the cynic in me that’s used to cops getting away with killing black people tells me he’ll be acquitted. It’s very hard to convict cops in this country, so I’ll keep my expectations in check.

There's also three charges to pick from. He could miss both murder charges and be convicted of manslaughter.

 

[Iceman]

I really hope they get this one right.

 

[Detective Conan]

Me right now:

 

[Sithborg]

There's also three charges to pick from. He could miss both murder charges and be convicted of manslaughter.

I suspect 3rd degree murder is not going to happen. The other two feel likely.

 

[InCali]

There's also three charges to pick from. He could miss both murder charges and be convicted of manslaughter.

The fact that they reached a verdict on, evidently, all three charges this quickly, bodes ill for Chauvin. If it took longer, it didn't necessarily mean good news, but could have meant they were haggling over the more serious charge.

I think the dude's toast.

 

[InCali]

I suspect 3rd degree murder is not going to happen. The other two feel likely.

Then a lot of them agreed on this very quickly.

EDIT: Did you mean 2nd degree? If you meant 3rd, why?

 

[Detective Conan]

He’s not wrong.

 

[Sithborg]

Then a lot of them agreed on this very quickly.

EDIT: Did you mean 2nd degree? If you meant 3rd, why?

The charges are 3rd degree murder, 2nd degree unintentional murder, and 2nd degree manslaughter. But I may be misremembering the details of each charge.

 

[InCali]

The charges are 3rd degree murder, 2nd degree unintentional murder, and 2nd degree manslaughter. But I may be misremembering the details of each charge.

I think it's 2nd degree (most serious and involves killing someone while committing a felony), 3rd degree (negligence), and manslaughter. I think....

 

[Dr.]

According to "MinnPost"...

Second-degree murder: The most severe charge Chauvin faces is second-degree murder. In order to convict Chauvin on this charge, the jury has to find Chauvin was committing third-degree assault causing serious bodily harm — meaning he significantly injured Floyd — when he caused his death. Conviction on this charge does not require that Chauvin intended to kill Floyd. The maximum sentence is 40 years in prison.

Third-degree murder: The middle charge in terms of severity, third-degree murder requires that the prosecution prove that Chauvin killed Floyd “by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life” in order to convict him on this count. The maximum sentence is 25 years.

Second-degree manslaughter: Chauvin also faces a second-degree manslaughter charge. Manslaughter requires prosecutors to prove that Chauvin’s negligent actions created an unreasonable risk of death or great bodily harm. The maximum sentence is 10 years.

Explaining the possible outcomes of jury deliberations in the Derek Chauvin trial | MinnPost

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[InCali]

2nd degree murder and all charges

 

[DarthSkywalker]

2nd degree murder

Racism has been solved!

 

[Iceman]

Guilty on all 3 charges.

 

[Sithborg]

Guilty on all charges.