Box Office 2015

[Iceman]

That article might be exagerating a bit, films released around that time rarely are front-loaded, their advantage lies in usualy staying strong at the box office for weeks to months, as there's not much competition. As cool as that could be, i doubt it will get close to Avatar, that was the kind of hit that only comes out now and then, as it gave people a completely new and unique experience. Avatar was also a brand new property, nobody had watched it before and you had to do so in order to form your opinion, it was pretty much an event, Star Wars however, is a big franchise that pretty much everyone has an opinion on, and not all of it is going to be positive.

Star Wars has a rabid fanbase that will watch the movies multiple times, but while it's arguably one of the most popular film series ever, there are still some who could care less. Don't tell me you don't know anyone who dislikes the series, i know a few people who even refuse to give the teasers and trailers a try. Avatar and Titanic on the other hand were those sort of event films you had to see in order to talk about, there wasn't any fully formed opinion yet and that ended up being an advantage.

That said, Force Awakens does have a fair chance at surpassing Titanic, that film was released almost 20 years ago and latest releases are getting closer to surpassing it's original run.

My money's on Force Awakens making 1.7- 2 billion, if it's realy good and everything's gearing towards it's favor, it might even reach Titanic's present gross. But from what i hear, December is going to be a month when China doesn't get other films besides their oun, so how much SW does there might be affected.

Anyway, Force Awakens is going to break an opening record for December, but considering how that month usualy has lower opening than summer, i do fear some headlines like "The New Star Wars falls short of the predictions" due to how high some of the predictions are right now. Exagerated expectations are what i think might end up creating some bad buzz, it was wise of Disney to say they were keeping their box office expectations low.

I think you're dead wrong, with all due respect. It's the most beloved franchise of all time. It's bigger than Batman, Bond, Avengers, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Jurassic Park, Fast and Furious... It's just the biggest thing ever. It's like a religion to people, man. The prequel trilogy missed the mark big time, but the combined factors of Ford/Fisher/Hamill returning, plus a respectable director, promising trailers, fans frothing at the mouths for something real (practical effects, real environments)... It's just going to be ridiculous.

I kind of agree with Lord's point above. I think most people would agree that SW is the biggest franchise of all time. But being the biggest franchise can actually limit your one off maximum performance as everyone is already aware of what you can offer. Probably why one-offs Titanic and Avatar (and even the first Star Wars film which at the time was obviously not a franchise) blew away every franchise in history at the time they came out. People didn't quite know their opinions on Titanic and Avatar (& A New Hope) before they went to the big new event movie of their time but to those who went and found it wasn't their thing, the equivalent thing to do with a big existing franchise for those people is to not turn up in the first place. With too much awareness based on prior films, those guys already know if a franchise, no matter how loved, is not quite their thing while the others have the advantage of being able to disguise that. I know a lot of people who for sure will never got to see another Avatar film (even if all the sequels are very successful), no matter how well reviewed/received it is as they've discovered now it's not quite to their taste but the first film still managed to get their money.

None of that is to say TFA and especially it successors can't get the number one spot, just that I think they'll have a hard time having a similar box office impact for the time they come out and will be more dependent on non like-for-like factors such as expanding overseas markets or years of inflation etc to get there.

 

[jmc]

I think where Star Wars is going to have a shot at Avatar is that if the film is universally well received, the repeat viewing will be astronomical. It's biggest advantage it has over every other franchise on the planet is that it's universally love and is continuing on from the series that is dear to many peoples hearts. The prequels were never the same because most of the characters were different and we knew where the story was headed to. Characters that everyone loves are returning for this film. This is the first Star Wars film since Jedi where we don't know the outcome and if it hits it out of the park it's not hard to imagine that not only will it smash the opening weekend record, the drop off the following weeks could be extraordinarily low. Not Avatar low numbers, but I could easily see a scenario where it makes domestically $200+ million its opening weekend, and $130-150 million on its second.

 

[rashad]

Minions Box Office Crosses $1 Billion
By Silas Lesnick ON
August 28, 2015

The worldwide Minions box office has passed $1 billion

Universal Pictures is having a very impressive 2015. Earlier this month, it was announced that the studio had already set the all-time box office record with four months still to go. Now, it has been revealed that the Minions box office has surpassed $1 billion worldwide! The Universal and Illumination Entertainment release has grossed an estimated $682 million internationally and $321.9 million in North America. Minions is now the third-highest grossing animated film of all time (behind Frozen and Toy Story 3).

The Minions box office also marks the first time any studio has had three films cross $1 billion at the worldwide box office in a single year. Furious 7 grossed $1.512 billion and Jurassic World has grossed $1.628 billion and counting. Currently the 23rd highest-grossing film of all time, Minions opened number one in North American and in 56 international territories so far. The film still has three markets to open in addition to Italy, where it opens today. Turkey will release the film September 4 with China following on September 13 and the film finally coming to Greece on September 24.
So far, Illumination has released five features (the list also includes, in chronological order, Despicable Me, Hop, Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax and Despicable Me 2) that have cumulatively grossed more than $3 billion worldwide.

Illumination’s global approach, led by Founder and CEO Chris Meledandri, includes a creative team that comes from 29 nationalities, resembling the breadth of the worldwide audience that they aim to reach with each of their films.

Other records set by Universal this year include a record $2.113 billion at the North American box office and $3.73 billion at the international box office.

Currently number one at the domestic box office for its third week is Universal’s Straight Outta Compton. Coming up in 2015, Universal will release M. Night Shyamalan’s The Visit, Baltasar Kormákur’s Everest, Danny Boyle’s Steve Jobs, Guillermo del Toro’s Crimson Peak, Angelina Jolie’s By The Sea, Michael Dougherty’s Krampus and Jason Moore’s Sisters, starring Tina Fey and Amy Poehler.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/477015-minions-box-office-crosses-1-billion

 

[rashad]

BoxOffice @BoxOffice JURASSIC WORLD: $993.6M Overseas Total / $1.6367B Global Total #JurassicWorld

 

[Micromind]

Universal Pictures seems to be having a great year so far, three movies going past 1 billion and others like Straight Outta Compton doing well.

Worldwide collections

Furious 7, $1,511,726,205

Jurassic World, $1,636,688,000

Minions, $1,018,901,000

Universal makes a minion of the competition in 2015's summer battle

 

[Iceman]

Those 3 made a fair bit over $4B between them!

 

[Lord]

This year realy is being the absolute oposite of 2014 in the boxoffice, there already are 4 Billion grossers, one film that will easily make a Billion (Star Wars) and 2 possible billions (hunger games and Spectre).

 

[Micromind]

Coming up in 2015, Universal will release

M. Night Shyamalan’s The Visit,

Baltasar Kormákur’s Everest

Danny Boyle’s Steve Jobs,

Guillermo del Toro’s Crimson Peak,

Angelina Jolie’s By The Sea,

Michael Dougherty’s Krampus

and Jason Moore’s Sisters, starring Tina Fey and Amy Poehler.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/477015-minions-box-office-crosses-1-billion

The other movies to be released by Universal Pictures are also looking good, M. Night's The Visit has been getting favorable reviews, Danny Boyle's Steve Jobs could be interesting and Del Toro's Crimson Peak has been getting some attention... plus Everest looks interesting movie too.

 

[Mysteryman]

This year realy is being the absolute oposite of 2014 in the boxoffice, there already are 4 Billion grossers, one film that will easily make a Billion (Star Wars) and 2 possible billions (hunger games and Spectre).

Yeah, I love it when the press prints articles about the movies being in decline .
Make better movies and that changes pretty quick .

 

[Lord]

Yeah, I love it when the press prints articles about the movies being in decline .
Make better movies and that changes pretty quick .

The quality hasn't been better though, last year we saw plenty of major budgeted productions that even got in the 90s % on rotten tomatoes, most of the successful productions this years have been around the 60-70% level. Fury Road and Mission Impossible might be making money, but they're not making nearly as much as the likes of Furious 7, Avengers 2 or Jurassic World. The good thing this year though is that the bad films are being smashed like flies in the box office (Pixels, Fantastic Four, Hitman, etc)

 

[rashad]

Universal Pictures seems to be having a great year so far, three movies going past 1 billion and others like Straight Outta Compton doing well.

Worldwide collections

Furious 7, $1,511,726,205

Jurassic World, $1,636,688,000

Minions, $1,018,901,000

Universal makes a minion of the competition in 2015's summer battle

"Seems to be" is an understatement. There are having a fantastic year.

 

[:eek:]

Top 20 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1636,9 million
2. Furious 7 $1511,7 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1401,5 million
4. Minions $1019,2 million
5. Inside Out $715,8 million
6. Fifty Shades of Grey $569,7 million
7. Cinderella $542,3 million
8. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $480 million
9. San Andreas $469,6 million
10. Terminator: Genisys $409,5 million
11. Kingsman: The Secret Service $406,9 million
12. Home $387,2 million
13. Monster Hunt $384,2 million
14. Mad Max: Fury Road $374,1 million
15. Ant-Man $366 million
16. Taken 3 $325,8 million
17. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $311,6 million
18. The Divergent Series: Insurgent $295,2 million
19. Pitch Perfect 2 $285,2 million
20. Paddington $259,5 million

 

[Wildcard]

This year realy is being the absolute oposite of 2014 in the boxoffice, there already are 4 Billion grossers, one film that will easily make a Billion (Star Wars) and 2 possible billions (hunger games and Spectre).

I still don't believe the Hunger Games will be a billion dollar movie. I see the numbers coming in the same as before, somewhere in the $800 million range with it possibly scratching $900 million.

James Bond probably won't hit $1 billion again either.

 

[:eek:]

"Tomorrowland," "Four" Top Summer Flops

By Garth Franklin Sunday September 6th 2015 08:55AM
With the Labor Day holiday weekend in full swing, we've officially reached the end of the Summer filmgoing season. That means it has been a time for a reflective look back at the season we've just had - one whose $4.36 billion domestic box office is up 7% from last year and is said to be pretty close to matching Summer 2011 for the second best on record (behind only 2013 with $4.77 billion).
So why couldn't it quite clear that previous record? Mostly it seems to be due to a couple of high profile flops that sadly didn't live up to expectation. A new report at THR talks about the five biggest flops of the Summer, with the top spot taken by a film you might not expect.
Disney, which has otherwise had a stellar year, had a rare misfire with Brad Bird's "Tomorrowland". The sci-fi tale has grossed around $208.4 million worldwide - not good for a film which cost a whopping $190 million. Combined with marketing costs and other deductions, the studio could well lose about $120-150 million on the film.
Coming in second was Josh Trank's "Fantastic Four" reboot which has made $146.7 million so far on a $125 million budget. Losses for 20th Century Fox are looking to be around $80-100 million.
Third was Sony's comedy "Pixels" starring Adam Sandler and Kevin James. Though it still has yet to open in parts of the world, the $186.4 million worldwide from a $90 million or so budget has loses pegged at around $75 million.
Fourth was latecomer "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." which has grossed $72.1 million thus far from a budget of over $75 million. Fifth was Cameron Crowe's infamous rom-com flop "Aloha" which only made $26.2 million on a $37 million budget.

 

[Wildcard]

Jurassic World is so close to eclipsing Titanic domestically....

 

[Mysteryman]

JW might as well take Titanic's record.
Because they will never get close to Avatar's.

 

[Shifty]

JW might as well take Titanic's record.
Because they will never get close to Avatar's.

It kinda already has.

2012's Titanic 3D brought in $58M to bring the total to $658M.

But adjusted for inflation Titanic's gross is actually $1,136,630,800. So almost double what Jurassic World made.

Titanic has sold 135,474,500 tickets.
Avatar has sold 97,255,300 tickets.
Jurassic World has sold 75,201,400 tickets.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm?adjust_yr=1&p=.htm

 

[:eek:]

Yeah, Titanic made $600 million domestically and $1,8 billion worldwide when no other movie had even reached $400 million domestically in its original run or $1 billion worldwide. Jurassic World isn't even close of being the kind of phenomenon Titanic was. JW hasn't even made as much as Furious 7 on the international market.

 

[:eek:]

Top 20 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1651 million
2. Furious 7 $1511,7 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1402,1 million
4. Minions $1049,4 million
5. Inside Out $735,7 million
6. Fifty Shades of Grey $569,7 million
7. Cinderella $542,3 million
8. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $512 million
9. San Andreas $469,9 million
10. Terminator: Genisys $435,9 million
11. Kingsman: The Secret Service $406,9 million
12. Monster Hunt $389,1 million
13. Home $387,3 million
14. Ant-Man $384,6 million
15. Mad Max: Fury Road $374,2 million
16. Taken 3 $325,8 million
17. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $311,6 million
18. The Divergent Series: Insurgent $295,2 million
19. Pitch Perfect 2 $285,2 million
20. Paddington $259,5 million

 

[Wildcard]

Yeah, Titanic made $600 million domestically and $1,8 billion worldwide when no other movie had even reached $400 million domestically in its original run or $1 billion worldwide. Jurassic World isn't even close of being the kind of phenomenon Titanic was. JW hasn't even made as much as Furious 7 on the international market.

Technically, JW has made more (domestically) than Titanic did before its re-release, so it has a one-up on it in that respect. Will it surpass its worldwide gross? At this juncture, probably not. But that doesn't make it any less impressive of a run.

And that could be argued, but Furious 7 also made less than half of what Jurassic World did domestically, which has a more even total between its homeland and the international territories. I'd take that over the former any day.

 

[Lord]

Technically, JW has made more (domestically) than Titanic did before its re-release, so it has a one-up on it in that respect. Will it surpass its worldwide gross? At this juncture, probably not. But that doesn't make it any less impressive of a run.

It's certainly not as impressive as Titanic's run, which was simply astounding. It's domestic gross was 600 million back in the 90s without the help of 3D boosting the prices, been almost 20 years and Jurassic World barely scratched that record, with the help of IMAX, 3D and in general more expensive tickets. It's still an impressive feat, but nowhere near Titanic's.

And that could be argued, but Furious 7 also made less than half of what Jurassic World did domestically, which has a more even total between its homeland and the international territories. I'd take that over the former any day.

Domesticaly probably makes more money for the studio, but worldwide means a film is being popular all around the world, considering how connected the world is becoming, Hollywood needs to appeal worldwide in order to survive.

 

[Wildcard]

I don't think anyone is saying Jurassic World has had a more impressive run than Titanic, but I do get the comparisons since that's the movie it's currently up against as far as listing goes.

Also, I totally understand that, and I agree it's important because your movie needs to do business everywhere, it needs to be something palpable that audiences all around can grasp. And I'd say that Jurassic World did that better than Furious 7, even if the latter made a bit more internationally.

It's extremely important for a movie to be appealing on the home front, especially these days when audiences have no problem skipping out if they feel it isn't worth the money. In that respect, JW drove more people in the United States to theaters than F7 and that is a vital fact to acknowledge.

You look at movies like Terminator: Gensisys. Sure, China saved it and it did pretty solid numbers internationally but its homeland didn't care about it. I just think the importance of domestic takings are drastically underrated.

 

[flickchick85]

I don't love Titanic (don't hate it either), but I DO love its box office run. That was something truly special and historic. I'll be sad when it inevitably gets topped by some run-of-the-mill 3D/IMAX-inflated blockbuster.

 

[Lord]

Avatar and Titanic were kinda like an event, while its easy to complain about them nowadays (I don't think Titanic deserves it nearly the same way Avatar) they were special runs. I hope that the film that beats their records is as impressive a feat technologicaly, i'll be disappointed if it's done by a run-of-the-mill sequel.

Though it's interesting to note that even almost 20 years since it's release, tickets inflation, growth of the Chinese market, Imax and 3D boost, big films like Jurassic World, Avengers and the final Harry Potter film were still at a distance from beating it's original run. It might still take a while, unless Star Wars 7 blows up (which is likely, but i doubt it will come close to Avatar).

Then again, just like with happened with those 2 films, when something blows up like that again, it will probably be an unexpected thing.

 

[:eek:]

‘Monster Hunt’ Overtakes ‘F7’ As All-Time China Box Office Champ In 2-Month Run

http://deadline.com/2015/09/china-monster-hunt-all-time-china-record-beats-furious-7-1201522646/

I have a feeling that this record won't last long either.