Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

[Boom]

Is it possible they’re just being horny on main?

Twitter is the social media equivalent to a cold shower.

 

[Invader Joker]

It's not the jaw, it's the shape of the face. Bill's face pushes down to create a more angular shape, as opposed to Corenswear who pushes out for a more rectangle shape. Pace def has looked more angular in the past, but the super buff post Foundation look has his face looking very square.

I kinda think that the Foundation thing has to do more with the hairstyle than him being buff. And either way it's bound to contrast a lot with an actual squared face like Corenswet's.





You can clearly tell Pace's face is way more pointy. And it's even more noticeable in motion:

And focusing on just Bill, while I don't think he looks like Corenswet either, saying he's a more noticeably different type to Corenswet than any of those two is just completely baffling:

Bill Skarsgard's face is more of a rectangle (which is closer to a Corenswet's squared face than Pace's is which is rounder and also pointer) and is also extremely, extremely sharp in the jaw and cheekbones in a way that's more reminiscent of each other. Any casting call that asks for a "Bill Skarsgard type" in terms of appearance would probably be sent to Corenswet's agents.

Ultimately I don't think it matters one way or the other though, but it's a baffling argument to use in his favor.

The main reason he'd be a bad idea though has more to do with the fact he'd be horribly miscast for a Batman that has a Bat-Family, and even worse miscast for a Morrison inspired Batman. Just a truly atrocious idea.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Your talking coocoo banana brains my friend.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

IDK, Invader, I also think Bill is too young for this but you tend to wildly underestimate how much actors are able to be transformative. There's way too much of a fixation on the natural "vibe" actors have in CBM fandom, it matters very little IMO. Most good actors could do the Morrison Bat God thing, especially in what's probably going to be a more standard superhero thing than like... having to do Batman RIP. That fixation on just "seeming like the character" has ****ed Superman in particular for decades.

 

[Invader Joker]

IDK, Invader, I also think Bill is too young for this but you tend to wildly underestimate how much actors are able to be transformative. There's way too much of a fixation on the natural "vibe" actors have in CBM fandom, it matters very little IMO. Most good actors could do the Morrison Bat God thing, especially in what's probably going to be a more standard superhero thing than like... having to do Batman RIP.

I don't think they could lmao You need an actor with a very very strong presence to be capable of emanating that in a believable way, and I do think that's something you constantly understimate and I find it really baffling why. There's a reason the term "gravitas" is used in relation to actors and it's not just a CBM fancasting thing, it's a thing some actors have and some don't. Especially because most actors are not chameleons like Pattinson. Most have very particular strengths and they play to those strengths.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I don't think they could lmao You need an actor with a very very strong presence to be capable of emanating that in a believable way, and I do think that's something you constantly understimate and I find it really baffling why. There's a reason the term "gravitas" is used in relation to actors and it's not just a CBM fancasting thing, it's a thing some actors have and some don't. Especially because most actors are not chameleons like Pattinson.

Because a lot of that is just having screen presence and charisma then being bolstered by the film itself. I don't think literally every actor has it, but the basic "ultra confident unflappable yet pained and tragic male action hero" shtick is not one of the worlds great acting challenges. Keaton doesn't "naturally" seem like Batman at all physically, as a person or in any of his other roles and he's wildly more believable to me in the role than anyone other than Bale and Pattinson.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I also don’t 100% think we are getting the batfamily Morrison Batman. I’m more just thinking of who would be a good pairing with Corenswet.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Yeah, saying Morrison is the inspo is easy and might ultimately not mean a lot (I do think there'll be Bat Family and the basic concept of Batman RIP for the plot). Similar to how I will be very shocked if Superman doesn't feel more akin to the classic post-crisis work place dramedy/sci fi adventure contrast than something as out there and beautiful as All-Star.

 

[BobJM]

I also don’t 100% think we are getting the batfamily Morrison Batman. I’m more just thinking of who would be a good pairing with Corenswet.

Agreed. Just because Damian Wayne is there doesn't mean that there's a Dick, Barbara, Jason (dead or resurrected), Tim, Stephanie, Helena, and Cassandra running around.

I'd imagine we get a Batman in his mid-late 30s and 10-13 year old Damian. If we're lucky, we'll get Dick Grayson is his late teens / early 20s (preferably already Nightwing)--you don't want him to be the same age range as Superman, anyhow.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I think it's pretty unlikely there won't at least be Dick Grayson. Both because Nightwing is one of the best DC characters and because the Damian story doesn't really feel right if he's the first Robin.

 

[BobJM]

I think it's pretty unlikely there won't at least be Dick Grayson. Both because Nightwing is one of the best DC characters and because the Damian story doesn't really feel right if he's the first Robin.

I’m not advocating for it, I’m just not taking it as a guarantee quite yet.

 

[BobJM]

Alfred Pennyworth - Pierce Brosnan, 71
James Gordon - Ben Mendelsohn, 55

 

[Invader Joker]

Because a lot of that is just having screen presence and charisma then being bolstered by the film itself. I don't think literally every actor has it, but the basic "ultra confident unflappable yet pained and tragic male action hero" shtick is not one of the worlds great acting challenges. Keaton doesn't "naturally" seem like Batman at all physically, as a person or in any of his other roles and he's wildly more believable to me in the role than anyone other than Bale and Pattinson.

But the thing with Michael Keaton is that he's Michael Keaton. He has a certain intensity to him that while not immediately obvious you can see how it worked with a take on Batman as idiosyncratic as Burton's which also was largely ignoring the comics. The thing with Bill is that he's no Michael Keaton in the acting department at all lol He was good in IT but his performance in John Wick 4 was Leto Joker levels bad. And back when he was rumored for Lex I tried to check him in some other stuff he did and I also found him pretty lackluster in that. He's an extraordinarily overrated performer. And on top of that we /know/ what the take on Batman that Gunn is using inspiration for is like, as well as the detail that he has an extended Bat-Family, and he doesn't fit that sort of father figure, authority figure at all let alone the extreme over the top "masculinity" (again, I wish I had a better term for what I'm referring to) of Morrison's take.

And also the whole "ultra confident unflappable yet pained and tragic male action hero" is also not that easy to play and not something anyone can play lol The type of dialogue those characters have, and the type of actions they take, especially in the context of the Batman character, does need a certain specific type of charisma/personality as well as acting skills in order to fully sell how larger than life they feel. Also, I gotta say, I'm also way, waaaaaaay past this idea that any reasonably fit or handsome actor can play Batman when Christian Bale himself said he didn't feel content with his performance. If one of the best actors currently working felt he couldn't crack it, then I do think that's a sign it's a way harder part to play than people realize, particularly because it's full of really weird, specific traps to fall into, like the voice and the fact it's a masked/stoic performance where you have to do a lot with very little.

 

[Eddie Dean]

But the thing with Michael Keaton is that he's Michael Keaton. He has a certain intensity to him that while not immediately obvious you can see how it worked with a take on Batman as idiosyncratic as Burton's which also was largely ignoring the comics. The thing with Bill is that he's no Michael Keaton in the acting department at all lol He was good in IT but his performance in John Wick 4 was Leto Joker levels bad. And back when he was rumored for Lex I tried to check him in some other stuff he did and I also found him pretty lackluster in that. And on top of that we /know/ what the take on Batman that Gunn is using inspiration for is like, as well as the detail that he has an extended Bat-Family, and he doesn't fit that sort of father figure, authority figure at all let alone the extreme over the top "masculinity" (again, I wish I had a better term for what I'm referring to) of Morrison's take.

And also the whole "ultra confident unflappable yet pained and tragic male action hero" is also not that easy to play and not something anyone can play lol The type of dialogue those characters have, and the type of actions they take, especially in the context of the Batman character, does need a certain specific type of charisma/personality in order to fully sell how larger than life they feel. Also, I gotta say, I'm also way, waaaaaaay past this idea that any reasonably fit or handsome actor can play Batman when Christian Bale himself said he didn't feel content with his performance. If one of the best actors currently working felt he couldn't crack it, then I do think that's a sign it's a way harder part to play than people realize, particularly because it's full of really weird, specific traps to fall into, like the voice and the fact it's a masked/stoic performance where you have to do a lot with very little.

 

[Lily Adler]

Glenn Howerton for Batman.

 

[flickchick85]

I think it's pretty unlikely there won't at least be Dick Grayson. Both because Nightwing is one of the best DC characters and because the Damian story doesn't really feel right if he's the first Robin.

I'd go further and say the Damian story doesn't work if he's the first Robin.

 

[Sawyer]

Glenn Howerton for Batman.

This feels like bait for me, personally. I won’t fall for it.

 

[Lily Adler]

This feels like bait for me, personally. I won’t fall for it.

I thought Michael Keaton and thought comedy actor and boom. He's even fondling grapes.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I would drop even my beloved Matt Reeves for modern Adam West with Glenn Howerton. No hesitation.

My serious fan cast for him is The Question though.

 

[Boom]

When your assassin son destroys priceless antiquities with a katana:

 

[BobJM]

If Blade keeps getting stalled, Mahershala Ali would be good as Commissioner Gordon.

I think he’d look pretty good next to Theo James as Batman.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

If Blade keeps getting stalled, Mahershala Ali would be good as Commissioner Gordon.

I think he’d look pretty good next to Theo James as Batman.

Gordon in The Batman was written with him in mind, fun fact.

 

[BobJM]

Gordon in The Batman was written with him in mind, fun fact.

Yeah, I think he’d be good in the role, even if it’s not in the noir Reeves universe.

And even though he’s only 61, Ralph Fiennes would still be a good Alfred in the DCU. I think he was rumored for The Batman too, or maybe I’m just making that up?

 

[skiddyboy]

What about Leo Suter, currently playing Harald in Vikings Valhala for Batman, he certainly has the physical athletic look, what do you guys think?

 

[Invader Joker]

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Too young