Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

Yeah, Edgerton turns 50 this year. I wanna go older, but I’m not sure I’d go that old.

All this discussion about age just has me thinking about what a nothing-burger Affleck’s age was in the first place. An older, more seasoned Batman? He was only two years older than Bale!

I mean, sure, he had a decade on Cavill, but still. By comic standards, a forty-something Batman just kind of seems the norm.
 
I'd definitely be down for Jake as Batman. He would offer a completely different take and vibe than the Pattinson Batman film/s which is important to set the two really apart. Plus, he is the right age to be a father to Damian.

 
Yeah, Edgerton turns 50 this year. I wanna go older, but I’m not sure I’d go that old.

All this discussion about age just has me thinking about what a nothing-burger Affleck’s age was in the first place. An older, more seasoned Batman? He was only two years older than Bale!

I mean, sure, he had a decade on Cavill, but still. By comic standards, a forty-something Batman just kind of seems the norm.
Yeah, in hindsight it's so weird that they tried to hype up Affleck as an old Dark Knight Returns Batman when he barely looked any older than Cavill.

I think it's part of why some people are so touchy about age. Affleck getting cast in his early 40s as an Old Man DKR Batman has made some people antsy about casting anyone in their 40s, when Affleck was never really right for that version of the character to begin with. I get not wanting him to look older than David Corenswet's Superman, but some people act like if he's played by anyone in their 40s then the DCU's Bruce would be an infirm old man, which is just ridiculous.
 
I think it's part of why some people are so touchy about age. Affleck getting cast in his early 40s as an Old Man DKR Batman has made some people antsy about casting anyone in their 40s, when Affleck was never really right for that version of the character to begin with. I get not wanting him to look older than David Corenswet's Superman, but some people act like if he's played by anyone in their 40s then the DCU's Bruce would be an infirm old man, which is just ridiculous.
I think some just have a hard time acknowledging that there are inevitable concessions to be made when bringing this stuff to the screen.

I mean, I doubt anyone would’ve been into the idea of Iron Man being 16 years older than Captain America and 30 years older than Spider-Man… until it happened.
 
I would love to have a 40-something Bruce (Lee Pace is still the ideal choice as far as I'm concerned), especially if he's already got Damian as a Robin. That's the correct age for that version of the character, imo.

BUT, I just don't see them going that way with this casting, especially given how Gunn has already pushed back against that notion when people took it as a given. "A few years older" than Superman is what he's looking for. 80% chance whoever they cast won't even be 40 imo.
 
I still say Gyllenhaal should get the role and by 2027 he would be 46/47 so that would put him right at perfect age to be Batman similar to when Ben Affleck was cast as Bruce in 2016...Ben Affleck was 44 but even then to have a 40 something Bruce with a pre teen or teen son Gyllenhaal could pull it off
 
I would love to have a 40-something Bruce (Lee Pace is still the ideal choice as far as I'm concerned), especially if he's already got Damian as a Robin. That's the correct age for that version of the character, imo.

BUT, I just don't see them going that way with this casting, especially given how Gunn has already pushed back against that notion when people took it as a given. "A few years older" than Superman is what he's looking for. 80% chance whoever they cast won't even be 40 imo.
Not so fast.





These are the three times Gunn has talked about Batman's age. Two of them were completely evasive when he was given a chance to be super clear in the subject (especially the last one) and the first one seems like he was giving a clear answer... until you actually begin to see what he's saying and notice that he was being ridiculously evasive as well lmao.

Much is to be said about "Gunnspeak" and how he sometimes says very specific things so they are taken as literally as humanly possible so people can't tell him "But you told us this x!" because he'll always say "No, I ACTUALLY said y"

And that one is a particularly egregious example of it.
First of all... referring to Superman's age as "just younger than his 40s"? Putting the word "MIGHT" in all caps?

I can already see from a mile away:

-@jamesgunn why do we have a Batman in his 40s? You told us he was only gonna be a couple years older than Superman!
-I said he MIGHT be a couple years older than a Superman that was younger than 40. I never said that he could only be a couple years older than a 30 year old Superman.


Giving himself an out with BOTH the fact he put the word "MIGHT" in all caps and that he only referred to Superman's age back then as "younger than 40". If he casts an older dude he can say "I wasn't lying!" because he wasn't.

And honestly the fact he's been asked about it two times after and was evasive makes me think that yeah guys in their 40s are in the cards lmao. He was explicit from the beginning he wanted a younger Superman and specifically younger than Henry Cavill. He has been vague as hell when it comes to Batman by comparison, and again, if you look at his other castings (Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner) he seems pretty open to casting older dudes as superheroes. Which is not surprising since he loves the John Wick franchise which has Keanu being a badass in his 50s, and also loves the recent Mission Impossibles which have the same story.

My instinct is that, right now, prior to a script existing or whatever he's probably looking at a very broad age range and will consider anyone that's "old enough to be a father figure to young adults" and "fit enough to be Batman", hence his vagueness. But maybe after a script is completed it gets narrowed down. And quite frankly, I doubt that any script for a movie that features "characters of a extended Bat-Family" and deals with the theme of "Batman as a father" will narrow you down to a younger Batman. The story kinda begs for an older one and I have no reason to think Gunn would not be able to see that.

Even then tho, a funny scenario that could happen is he'll stick with looking at a very broad age range and screen test a dude in his 30s, another one in their 40s and another one in their early 50s. Which would be hilarious.

It'll be a while till the DCU Batman is cast tho. Unless god decides to have mercy on me and Gunn decides to cast him for the Arkham show, Waller or something first. (Which I think would be kinda smart, actually. It'll be very tough to get people excited for a new Batman in a movie so soon after Robert but if you build up to him first with appearances like that where he's cool and people wanna see more of him I think that could work as a way of leading up to Brave and the Bold as an event)

For the moment tho...

Respect and enjoy the Pace.


 
Watching Beware the Batman right now and I’m really feeling Jason Statham (he’s 56 and would be close to 60 when filming begins) as Alfred. It would feel so fresh and set his portrayal apart from the rest.
 
Watching Beware the Batman right now and I’m really feeling Jason Statham (he’s 56 and would be close to 60 when filming begins) as Alfred. It would feel so fresh and set his portrayal apart from the rest.
For this specific take on Batman I think Statham would be an awful idea (nvm the fact I think he'd be an awful idea in general). The dude still looks really young, in fact he pretty much looks the same as he did 10 years ago. Don't think he could be able to pull off the fatherly vibe needed for a Batman in his late 30s, 40s or whatever. Let alone the grandfather one for all the Robins.
 
Watching Beware the Batman right now and I’m really feeling Jason Statham (he’s 56 and would be close to 60 when filming begins) as Alfred. It would feel so fresh and set his portrayal apart from the rest.
See, I feel like that’s just going harder on the military vibe Andy Serkis already has. I feel like a more classic Alfred would feel the most fresh as a contrast.
 
See, I feel like that’s just going harder on the military vibe Andy Serkis already has. I feel like a more classic Alfred would feel the most fresh as a contrast.
I kinda have a feeling, especially on some of Gunn's other castings, he's gonna try to go for an Alfred that looks like the comic book Alfred now mostly because it's never been done before.
 
I kinda have a feeling, especially on some of Gunn's other castings, he's gonna try to go for an Alfred that looks like the comic book Alfred now mostly because it's never been done before.
Yeah, I think so too. It’s so funny to me that my main complaint about Gunn’s DCU so far is that it feels too boring and traditional. I’d never have guessed in a million years.
 
Yeah, I think so too. It’s so funny to me that my main complaint about Gunn’s DCU so far is that it feels too boring and traditional. I’d never have guessed in a million years.
I think he's gonna be mixing it up a lot honestly. In some aspects it's very traditional but in others it's pretty bonkers (Starts off with Creature Commandos. Metamorpho, The Engineer and Guy Gardner are in the debut Superman movie, has Peacemaker of all things after Superman, Waller is one of the first shows, The Authority, not to mention the rumors of the korean action Huntress movie, Sgt. Rock and Aronofsky's Plastic Man). I think intentionally so.
 
I think he's gonna be mixing it up a lot honestly. In some aspects it's very traditional but in others it's pretty bonkers (Starts off with Creature Commandos. Metamorpho, The Engineer and Guy Gardner are in the debut Superman movie, has Peacemaker of all things after Superman, Waller is one of the first shows, The Authority, not to mention the rumors of the korean action Huntress movie, Sgt. Rock and Aronofsky's Plastic Man). I think intentionally so.
Yeah, the stuff that makes other people hesitant about Superman is the stuff I’m actually intrigued by about the movie. The rando B Listers and Hoult.
 
Timothy Dalton would be a cool choice for a "traditional looking" Alfred that still keeps the whole MI6 background (which I imagine Gunn will keep as it's basically standard comic lore at this point and I can't imagine he'd dislike it)

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I've got no idea where she could even show up but Rebecca Ferguson would be a cool choice for a more experienced Catwoman:
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I want Rebecca Ferguson in everything. Though if Jake G does end up playing Batman and he is the guy that screamed at her, I’m guessing she won’t show up in this movie.

(I have no idea if Jake was that person, but I saw some people speculating that it could have been him.)
 
I want Rebecca Ferguson in everything. Though if Jake G does end up playing Batman and he is the guy that screamed at her, I’m guessing she won’t show up in this movie.

(I have no idea if Jake was that person, but I saw some people speculating that it could have been him.)
Don’t worry, it was totally Hugh Grant. I am 100% confident of that. :funny:

But also, Jake won’t be Batman anyway.
 
Don’t worry, it was totally Hugh Grant. I am 100% confident of that. :funny:

But also, Jake won’t be Batman anyway.

Does Hugh have a reputation for being a drama queen on set? Not saying he doesn’t; just never heard anything bad about him, really (aside from the whole cheating on Liz Hurley with a sex worker thing in the 90s).
 
Does Hugh have a reputation for being a drama queen on set? Not saying he doesn’t; just never heard anything bad about him, really (aside from the whole cheating on Liz Hurley with a sex worker thing in the 90s).
Absolutely. All his female co-stars hate him (he's admitted this in interviews). Most recently on Dungeons and Dragons, he had a Bale-esque freak-out on a woman who was a chaperone for a kid on set because she (his explanation) "got in his eyeline." He later thought it was a funny anecdote. Jon Stewart said he was the worst guest The Daily Show ever had for being such an a**hole to everyone. I posted the articles in the Dune thread when this was all a thing lol.

Most glaring, Rebecca was playing his mistress, so he was basically her primary/only scene partner in all her scenes in Florence Foster Jenkins, which means he was #1 on the call sheet all those days of filming, as Meryl wasn't present. And yet, look for any instances of them doing press together. All you'll find are photos of them at the premiere, with Rebecca standing as far away from him in the photocalls as humanly possible. :funny:
 
Absolutely. All his female co-stars hate him (he's admitted this in interviews). Most recently on Dungeons and Dragons, he had a Bale-esque freak-out on a woman who was a chaperone for a kid on set because she (his explanation) "got in his eyeline." He later thought it was a funny anecdote. Jon Stewart said he was the worst guest The Daily Show ever had for being such an a**hole to everyone. I posted the articles in the Dune thread when this was all a thing lol.

Most glaring, Rebecca was playing his mistress, so he was basically her primary/only scene partner in all her scenes in Florence Foster Jenkins, which means he was #1 on the call sheet all those days of filming, as Meryl wasn't present. And yet, look for any instances of them doing press together. All you'll find are photos of them at the premiere, with Rebecca standing as far away from him in the photocalls as humanly possible. :funny:

Oh damn. What a d-bag. He always seems so harmless in movies. I had no idea he was like this. Really disappointing.
 

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