Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

[SwordOfMorning]

I was just messing around with @Invader Joker because he hates those two guys. But I do think Elordi would have been an excellent choice if Gunn wasn't looking for someone a little older.

Elordi is almost destined for the role. If The Batman were being made right now him or Austin Butler would be the ideal choices.

 

[Boom]

It's impossible to tell. Especially if Gunn allows for a wider age range for Batman.

If Gunn's as much of a height nazi as he's made out to be, then Lee Pace.

 

[Invader Joker]

I was just messing around with @Invader Joker because he hates those two guys. But I do think Elordi would have been an excellent choice if Gunn wasn't looking for someone a little older.

I've warmed up to Elordi and think that if they were making another young Batman movie he's as good as it gets. I still think he'd be a good choice for Dick Grayson, especially if they put him on track to take over the mantle at some point, though.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Being over 6,2 is absolutely a necessity because Gunn is a sick pervert about height.

Every time Gunn’s peculiarities come up all I can think of is his horrible, misogynistic behaviour on that reality show he did in the 2000s where he spent most of it being a bullying, gaslighting prick to women who didn’t want to debase themselves for his amusement.

 

[Invader Joker]

It's impossible to tell. Especially if Gunn allows for a wider age range for Batman.

If Gunn's as much of a height nazi as he's made out to be, then Lee Pace.

If he goes for a wide age range I can 100% see a scenario where he screentests 2 thirty-something actors against a forties-something actor (probably Lee Pace. He almost seems like a pipedream because of how much we've talked about him but him and Gunn already being friendly with each other plus him being tall amongst other factors do position him ridiculously well. Hell I even found an old Facebook post of James where he said he thinks Lee would be a great James Bond.) almost exclusively so then when people on social media pester him about why he hired a Batman actor that's so much older than Corenswet he can go "Talent matters most" to shut them up.

If he doesn't go that way then 2 forty somethings and one thirty something. I do think they'll attempt to find thirty something year olds suited for the part so I expect maybe there'll be some casting calls related to that (just like how there were casting calls looking for very young 20 somethings for Clark and Lois) I just don't think they'll find any that are as natural as fits as the forty year olds.

Being over 6,2 is absolutely a necessity because Gunn is a sick pervert about height.

Every time Gunn’s peculiarities come up all I can think of is his horrible, misogynistic behaviour on that reality show he did in the 2000s where he spent most of it being a bullying, gaslighting prick to women who didn’t want to debase themselves for his amusement.

It's a reality show so who knows how much of it was actually real. I did hear of the same show and appareantly him and the girls remained friends afterwards and I think I even saw posts of some of the girls having fond memories about it, so I wouldn't speculate too much on that beyond it being the trash TV culture of the time.

 

[Invader Joker]

Also I've been dismissing Benjamin Walker's chances based on the fact that he has literally not gotten a single on-screen role of any note. But Peter Safran seems to be a fan of his from Broadway. So maybe he has a shot.

▶️ The Choice - The Choice: Peter Safran On Benjamin Walker

Watch Featurette | 0:43

www.imdb.com

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Also I've been dismissing Benjamin Walker's chances based on the fact that he has literally not gotten a single on-screen role of any note. But Peter Safran seems to be a fan of his from Broadway. So maybe he has a shot.

▶️ The Choice - The Choice: Peter Safran On Benjamin Walker

Watch Featurette | 0:43

www.imdb.com

David Corenswet is Superman, dude. He's not anymore famous than Walker is. Maybe slightly less so because he's not even well known to a niche audience.

 

[Invader Joker]

David Corenswet is Superman, dude. He's not anymore famous than Walker is. Maybe slightly less so because he's not even well known to a niche audience.

It's not about fame lol It's that at least Corenswet has gotten a leading role in a Ryan Murphy TV show that I'm sure Netflix funded with the intention of being a big thing, that is a huge, huge on-screen get. He also got another gig in a recurring role on a David Simon show, and another big role with an Apple show that has Natalie Portman as the lead. Those are all huge huge gets for his age. Walker has nothing like that in his resume, the closest thing is the Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter movie. To me these analysis aren't so much about fame but more about "How much have producers and studios been charmed by these people?".

And while anything can happen, generally if you've been around the industry for 20 years and haven't even charmed a single studio or producer into giving you some sort of juicy supporting role on a major film or some leading role in even a bad TV show, what are the chances out of nowhere you'll get lucky and suddenly they'll like you for Batman?

 

[SwordOfMorning]

It's not about fame lol It's that at least Corenswet has gotten a leading role in a Ryan Murphy TV show that I'm sure Netflix funded with the intention of being a big thing. Walker has nothing like that in his resume, the closest thing is the Abrahamn Lincoln Vampire Hunter movie. To me these analysis aren't so much about fame but more about "How much have producers and studios been charmed by these people?".

Well he’s a major character on the most expensive television program ever produced, has been a working actor for around twenty years and is a big name on Broadway which doesn’t exactly translate but is not nothing.

 

[Invader Joker]

Well he’s a major character on the most expensive television program ever produced, has been a working actor for around twenty years and is a big name on Broadway which doesn’t exactly translate but is not nothing.

Is he a major character though? I was under the impression he had extremely little screentime in that show. This scene compilation doesn't even amount to two minutes:

But yeah I do agree the Broadway thing at least gives him something, it's just kinda wild how little luck he's had in terms of on-screen stuff, and statistically the odds of that bad luck getting broken suddenly by Batman seem somewhat low. The fact Safran's a fan changes things, though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's a reality show so who knows how much of it was actually real. I did hear of the same show and appareantly him and the girls remained friends afterwards and I think I even saw posts of some of the girls having fond memories about it, so I wouldn't speculate too much on that beyond it being the trash TV culture of the time.

That makes it alright then!

But I get it. Time is money. Better to scold and abuse to keep a nice, tight schedule, then let an artist breathe and do their thing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's not about fame lol It's that at least Corenswet has gotten a leading role in a Ryan Murphy TV show that I'm sure Netflix funded with the intention of being a big thing, that is a huge, huge on-screen get. He also got another gig in a recurring role on a David Simon show, and another big role with an Apple show that has Natalie Portman as the lead. Those are all huge huge gets for his age. Walker has nothing like that in his resume, the closest thing is the Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter movie. To me these analysis aren't so much about fame but more about "How much have producers and studios been charmed by these people?".

And while anything can happen, generally if you've been around the industry for 20 years and haven't even charmed a single studio or producer into giving you some sort of juicy supporting role on a major film or some leading role in even a bad TV show, what are the chances out of nowhere you'll get lucky and suddenly they'll like you for Batman?

That's literally about fame.

 

[Invader Joker]

That makes it alright then!

But I get it. Time is money. Better to scold and abuse to keep a nice, tight schedule, then let an artist breathe and do their thing.

What are you even talking about dude lmao My point is that reality shows have a long, long, long history of having completely manufactured drama that isn't indicative of how things actually were on set.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What are you even talking about dude lmao My point is that reality shows have a long, long, long history of having completely manufactured drama that isn't indicative of how things actually were on set.

They also have a long track record of people being monstrous. Your decision was to default to the one that doesn't match known incidents of Gunn's ego flaring up.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Yeah, I get what you're saying about manufactured drama but Gunn says some **** on that show in those sequences he has repeated in other contexts throughout his career.

 

[Invader Joker]

That's literally about fame.

No it's not lol. Fame can be an indicator of what I'm talking about, but it's not what I'm focusing on. What's the problem with you? I specify what I mean every single ****ing time and you can't help yourself but come at me with bull**** ignoring the bulk of what I'm saying.

Is María Gabriela de Faría a mega famous actress? Probably not. But back in her home town she was trusted as a lead on a ton of different TV shows that were a big deal there, then when she got to Hollywood she got another important major role in Deadly Class which while it was not a success they clearly made with the thought in mind it would be a success. So that goes to show that producers and studio execs or whatever generally like her.

Is Rachel Brosnahan a mega famous actress? Probably not really. But her resume speaks for itself and she lead one of Amazon's biggest hits for several seasons, she was also played one of the most complicated parts in House of Cards. Again, that goes to show that producers and studio execs do see something in her.

Is David Corenswet a mega famous actor? No. But he got a major part on a Ryan Murphy show that immediately got followed up with leading role on another Ryan Murphy show which even had an executive producer credit, and then afterwards he got a part on a David Simon miniseries, then a major part on an Apple series with Natalie Portman. Again, that goes to show that people in the industry like him and see something in him.


By comparison there are a ton of C-level actors that have not only never gotten anything remotely big by any standards, they've also haven't even gotten anything anyone expected to become big, despite decades in the industry and therefore is pretty obvious no one in Hollywood has quite been high on them becoming stars of any sort.

That is very very specifically what I'm talking about. If you want to dismiss it or misinterpret it (like you always do with anything I say) to whine about something else you can do it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No it's not lol. Fame can be an indicator of what I'm talking about, but it's not what I'm focusing on. What's the problem with you? I specify what I mean every single ****ing time and you can't help yourself but come at me with bull**** ignoring the bulk of what I'm saying.

Is María Gabriela de Faría a mega famous actress? Probably not. But back in her home town she was trusted as a lead on a ton of different TV shows that were a big deal there, then when she got to Hollywood she got another important major role in Deadly Class which while it was not a success they clearly made with the thought in mind it would be a success. So that goes to show that producers and studio execs or whatever generally like her.

Is Rachel Brosnahan a mega famous actress? Probably not really. But her resume speaks for itself and she lead one of Amazon's biggest hits for several seasons, she was also played one of the most complicated parts in House of Cards. Again, that goes to show that producers and studio execs do see something in her.

Is David Corenswet a mega famous actor? No. But he got a major part on a Ryan Murphy show that immediately got followed up with leading role on another Ryan Murphy show which even had an executive producer credit, and then afterwards he got a part on a David Simon miniseries, then a major part on an Apple series with Natalie Portman. Again, that goes to show that people in the industry like him and see something in him.


By comparison there are a ton of C-level actors that have never gotten anything big by any standards and therefore is pretty obvious no one in Hollywood has quite been high on them becoming stars of any sort.

That is very very specifically what I'm talking about. If you want to dismiss it or misinterpret it (like you always do with anything I say) to whine about something else you can do it.

Your barometer for a juicy or worthwhile role is literally fame. It's why you keep name dropping.

 

[Invader Joker]

Your barometer for a juicy or worthwhile role is literally fame.

I'm not talking about fame for ****s sake. I already specified what I mean. It's about whether or not execs, directors, producers seem to like these actors; and you know why that's something I take into account? Because just speaking in terms of pure probabilities if other execs, directors and producers have liked these people before that makes it more likely James Gunn would like them as well! Jesus christ talking to you is talking to a brick wall.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I'm not talking about fame for ****s sake. I already specified what I mean. It's about whether or not execs, directors, producers seem to like these actors; and you know why that's something I take into account? Because just speaking in terms of pure probabilities if other execs, directors and producers have liked these people before that makes it more likely James Gunn would like them as well! Jesus christ talking to you is talking to a brick wall.

Invader, man, I get frustrated with online arguments too but you don't have to get personally aggro. Let's all calm down and step back. We're just arguing about silly movies on a silly forum.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm not talking about fame for ****s sake. I already specified what I mean. It's about whether or not execs, directors, producers seem to like these actors; and you know why that's something I take into account? Because just speaking in terms of pure probabilities if other execs, directors and producers have liked these people that makes it more likely James Gunn would like them as well! Jesus christ talking to you is talking to a brick wall.

Your example of this, is getting famous roles. You're talking about fame. Well I guess what you specifically consider famous roles.

 

[Invader Joker]

Your example of this, is getting famous roles. You're talking about fame. Well I guess what you specifically consider famous roles.

Again, it's not "famous roles" because I wouldn't say that "Hollywood" or "Deadly Class" were actual popular projects. But they were projects that the studios that made them were making them with the thought in mind that maybe they'd become really big hits. There is a very very very clear distinction between the two. And being cast in a leading role or major supporting role on something that a studio is banking on becoming popular is a big deal, whether it actually comes to fruition or not.

Invader, man, I get frustrated with online arguments too but you don't have to get personally aggro. Let's all calm down and step back. We're just arguing about silly movies on a silly forum.

It just gets on my nerves lol He always comes up on several threads to strawman my points and misrepresent everything I'm saying. I'm sorry.

 

[flickchick85]

I don't have much to contribute here because I don't like Ben Walker for Batman at all, but I say this as the #1 Corenswet champion on this board for 5 years running: Walker has a much more accomplished resume than Corenswet did at the time of his casting. No doubt.

 

[Invader Joker]

I don't have much to contribute here because I don't like Ben Walker for Batman at all, but I say this as the #1 Corenswet champion on this board for 5 years running: Walker has a much more accomplished resume than Corenswet did at the time of his casting. No doubt.

As a whole counting his Broadway work undoubtedly. Exclusively on-screen though even Corenswet had more going for him, which is what struck me as odd for Walker and did make me second-guess his chances, but Safran being a fan of his from Broadway could very well play in his favor.

 

[Boom]

Walker would be perfect for a New Frontier style Batman. He has an Old Hollywood look to him that would pair very well with Corenswet. I'd be pleased if he was up for it.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I just need Jason Isaacs to be Alfred, please.