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That's an interesting pipe dream. Reminds me of the NeverTrump movement and remembering how utterly pathetic and unsuccessful it was/is.
 
The difference the with US is that snap election can be called in the UK.
 
craigdbfan said:
That's an interesting pipe dream. Reminds me of the NeverTrump movement and remembering how utterly pathetic and unsuccessful it was/is.
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How is it unsuccessful?

Trump is hurting in the polls and in campaign funds.
 
Matt said:
You realize you are only supposed to buy at a time like this one the market bottoms out, which probably hasn't happened yet...especially with European stocks. You are going to lose a lot of money if you are buying recklessly.



Yeah, but you don't buy until the market bottoms out and starts to stabilize. Otherwise you are buying as it will continue to drop and probably losing money in the process.

Case in point.

You only buy low when the selling has stopped. That hasn't happened yet. Buying in the past 48 hours is a stupid, stupid move.
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Right. I was not endorsing throwing your money into a sinking boat. I have done this before. I am not about to go into investing 101 on a superhero film website. And honestly, anyone that takes investing tips from a guy who has an avatar of Jar Jar Binks sloppily photoshopped onto the body of Superman, deserves to have their investments fall through the bottom of the earth.
 
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jmc said:
The difference the with US is that snap election can be called in the UK.
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Very true.

ARBH said:
Right. I was not endorsing throwing your money into a sinking boat. I have done this before. I am not about to go into investing 101 on a superhero film website. And honestly, anyone that takes investing tips from a guy who has an avatar of Jar Jar Binks sloppily photoshopped onto the body of Superman, deserves to have their investments fall through the bottom of the earth.
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Haha. :funny:
 
I want to ask a question, as a libertarian/moderate on a left leaning forum.

Why is it so wrong in the far lefts eyes for a country, albeit Britain or the USA, to push a sovereign, nation first agenda over open borders and globalism? Why is it so wrong for a country to put itself and it's citizens first?

I mean, I have other questions for the far left. Like why is it ok for an illegal immigrant to burn the US flag but it's racist for an American citizen to burn the Mexican flag, why is it ok to crap on Christianity but not Islam, etc. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, but what's with you people and the double standards? Though I will stick with my original question for now.

And I'm attacking the far left in the way I attack the far right on issues such as gay rights, abortion, tax loopholes for the rich, etc. So back off that right now. But back to my original question.
 
NotFadeAway said:
I want to ask a question, as a libertarian/moderate on a left leaning forum.

Why is it so wrong in the far lefts eyes for a country, albeit Britain or the USA, to push a sovereign, nation first agenda over open borders and globalism? Why is it so wrong for a country to put itself and it's citizens first?

I mean, I have other questions for the far left. Like why is it ok for an illegal immigrant to burn the US flag but it's racist for an American citizen to burn the Mexican flag, why is it ok to crap on Christianity but not Islam, etc. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, but what's with you people and the double standards? Though I will stick with my original question for now.

And I'm attacking the far left in the way I attack the far right on issues such as gay rights, abortion, tax loopholes for the rich, etc. So back off that right now. But back to my original question.
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How does the Brexit solve any of these problems?

How much did the EU take out of the UK and how much did it give to the UK? Because it seems like Cornwall was relying on money from the EU and are hoping to continue to get it despite the face they voted for the Brexit:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...erwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html

It also is worrying that many of the Brexit backers are going back on the promises they made:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...t-three-promises-campaigners-already-11523855

Also how much money did the UK lose in the turmoil after the Brexit:

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ts-ftse-pound-uk-leave-eu-brexit-live-updates

Also worrying is the fact that seems like some people choose to vote on this issue and remained blissfully ignorant of the stakes and issues involved:

http://marketbusinessnews.com/bregret-regret-voting-brexit-spreading/138359

Like it or not, we live in a more globalized world and what we do can effect other countries (the Brexit caused the Japanese stock exchange to crash) and often countries can benefit each other through cooperation rather then trying to promote pointless strife.


This isn't a matter of political correctness, it is just common sense, doing selfish things that hurt other countries will mean they will be less likely to help you in the future. The UK has gained nothing from this and merely put its economy in danger with this stunt, they are hurting themselves more then anyone else.
 
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NotFadeAway said:
I want to ask a question, as a libertarian/moderate on a left leaning forum.

Why is it so wrong in the far lefts eyes for a country, albeit Britain or the USA, to push a sovereign, nation first agenda over open borders and globalism? Why is it so wrong for a country to put itself and it's citizens first?

I mean, I have other questions for the far left. Like why is it ok for an illegal immigrant to burn the US flag but it's racist for an American citizen to burn the Mexican flag, why is it ok to crap on Christianity but not Islam, etc. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, but what's with you people and the double standards? Though I will stick with my original question for now.

And I'm attacking the far left in the way I attack the far right on issues such as gay rights, abortion, tax loopholes for the rich, etc. So back off that right now. But back to my original question.
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I don't have a political ideology but my point of view is if a bunch of experts are telling you you risk seriously damaging your economy and potential unsettling an entire region that has historically had issues getting along then maybe it's in everyone's best interest to listen to them.
 
Lord Valumart said:
Spent a large portion of today explaining to a guy at work why being out of the EU was a bad thing. Basically I had to boil it down to "Lego will be more expensive". I hate people...
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I overheard a couple old women saying northern Ireland and Scotland are ungrateful because they are talking about leaving the UK :huh:

I am really starting to resent old people in this country :csad:
 
jmc said:
I don't have a political ideology but my point of view is if a bunch of experts are telling you you risk seriously damaging your economy and potential unsettling an entire region that has historically had issues getting along then maybe it's in everyone's best interest to listen to them.
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If it was in everyones best interest we wouldn't have voted leave. If living standards hadn't dropped we wouldn't have voted to leave. 52% of britain is not stupid and racist.
 
chamber-music said:
I overheard a couple old women saying northern Ireland and Scotland are ungrateful because they are talking about leaving the UK :huh:

I am really starting to resent old people in this country :csad:
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Yes lets kill them all. They never did anything for us. (/sarcasm)
 
This is a screenshot of my phone just now, madness. :funny:

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I'm anticipating lucky number 5 now. :p
 
NotFadeAway said:
I want to ask a question, as a libertarian/moderate on a left leaning forum.

Why is it so wrong in the far lefts eyes for a country, albeit Britain or the USA, to push a sovereign, nation first agenda over open borders and globalism? Why is it so wrong for a country to put itself and it's citizens first?
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Because it's made up hysteria based on nothing.

There's no such thing as globalization or closed borders. The world's always been global. Trade has alway crossed deserts, oceans, and land. People have always migrated from crappy conditions to better ones.

America makes a bad trade deal with China, then don't keep making more.

What do you consider putting your citizen's first? American citizen's looking after each other? Cause we do a crap job of it even when they are our own countrymen.
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Migrants aren't the reason American vets aren't getting the best healthcare.
China didn't cause Flint to poison it's own water supply.
The Mexican flag doesn't cause teen pregnancy.


Re-electing crappy politicians who can't be bothered to ban 1 type of assault rifle vs. 100 handguns is the problem. (DEMs and Repbs)

NotFadeAway said:
I I mean, I have other questions for the far left. Like why is it ok for an illegal immigrant to burn the US flag but it's racist for an American citizen to burn the Mexican flag, why is it ok to crap on Christianity but not Islam, etc. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, but what's with you people and the double standards? Though I will stick with my original question for now.
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Do you want to crap on Islam? What would that look like? Caricatures of Islamic figures? Misrepresenting Muslim ideals?
 
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NotFadeAway said:
I want to ask a question, as a libertarian/moderate on a left leaning forum.

Why is it so wrong in the far lefts eyes for a country, albeit Britain or the USA, to push a sovereign, nation first agenda over open borders and globalism? Why is it so wrong for a country to put itself and it's citizens first?

I mean, I have other questions for the far left. Like why is it ok for an illegal immigrant to burn the US flag but it's racist for an American citizen to burn the Mexican flag, why is it ok to crap on Christianity but not Islam, etc. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, but what's with you people and the double standards? Though I will stick with my original question for now.

And I'm attacking the far left in the way I attack the far right on issues such as gay rights, abortion, tax loopholes for the rich, etc. So back off that right now. But back to my original question.
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The far left are communist and other radical leftist

Plenty of people (not just communist) are worried about how destabilization and uncertainty of the EU slowly crumbling will impact the global economy.

Plus blaming immigration and welfare for all the banking problems that caused the European Debt crisis will not guide sensible solutions. Brexit is a prime example.
 
The value of the British pound dropped significantly yesterday, but it rebounded today.
 
jokesonm3 said:
This is a screenshot of my phone just now, madness. :funny:

I'm anticipating lucky number 5 now. :p
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Meanwhile over at the conservative party they are having their own mini civil war with the Boris backers and Theresa May backers lining up. Most of them are only backing Theresa May to stop Boris becoming Prime Minister.

It like watching a slow motion car crash.
 
Lilbaz said:
If it was in everyones best interest we wouldn't have voted leave. If living standards hadn't dropped we wouldn't have voted to leave. 52% of britain is not stupid and racist.
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Not racist, but misguided. I fail to see how the Brexit solves these problems. I think at best the UK may break even in the long run, but the worst case scenario is the UK becomes an economic basket case.

I heard Nigel Farage wants the UK to renegage with the Commonwealth, saying these countries should look to the UK for leadership, but most members of the Commonwealth have moved on and treated it like a social club. India is apparently thinking of leaving the Commonwealth.

I live in Canada and I think the Brexit makes the Commonwealth less appealing. There is no way Canada, New Zealand and Australia can replace unrestricted trade with the UK and the Commonwealth doesn't have the same power it did several decades ago, so I am not sure what Farage expects from it.

Canada has its own issues and is far away from the UK, ditto with New Zealand and Australia. These countries cannot do much to replace the EU trade relationship the UK had.
 
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“What’s the EU ever done for us?” asked 21 year old Zak Kelly while standing next to a brand new complex of buildings and facilities paid for by the EU :facepalm:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-town-showered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale
The Overlord said:
I heard Nigel Farage wants the UK to renegage with the Commonwealth, saying these countries should look to the UK for leadership, but most members of the Commonwealth have moved on and treated it like a social club. India is apparently thinking of leaving the Commonwealth.
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People like Farage still think they live in the mid twentieth century. They simply don't realize the world has moved on. Backwards looking people instead of forwards looking.

India isn't going to give the UK lucrative trade deals just because they are in an antiquated commonwealth with us.

If we are depending on people like Nigel Farage to come up with solutions then we really are screwed.
 
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