C. Nolan's Interstellar

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He walked out convinced it was going to get Oscars but those pesky people just had to get shoot and ruined it's chances.

Funny because I walked out of TDKR convinced that it wasn't going to get any Oscar noms because it wasn't as well made as TDK and the academy doesn't like Nolan.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Even if I feel the same way about the movie as he does, it's so unnecessary and cheap to blame it's lack of oscar noms on the tragedy.

It's quite obvious that the oscar academy are no Nolan fans anyway.

I just felt that TDKR had no chance either way.

 

[747]

I just felt that TDKR had no chance either way.

Yeah, that's what I meant, even though I personally love the movie, I never thought it would be nominated in any of the big categories anyway. Blaming it on the tragedy like that guy is doing is just childish and cheap.

 

[Marvin]

I think he may become the preeminent entertainer who marries art and spectacle. Similarly, I'd say before Spielberg there was Hitchcock. Vastly different style, but Hitchcock was a great entertainer for the masses but made artistic classics that were both wildly entertaining (though more through suspense and mystery than Spielberg's staple of awe and wonder) and critically respected. Also, like pre-Schindler's List Spielberg and Hitchcock, Nolan is clearly despised by the Academy. Obviously, TDKR was going to get no serious nods, but not even a VFX or Sound Mixing? After they snubbed him on Inception, TDK and Memento, I'd say it's safe to say they don't like his high-minded mainstream accessibility. So, there is another similarity.

Confused here. In one breath you say they don't like his so called high minded mainstream accessibility(not sure where that comes from), but in the next breath you say that's something he has in common with the berg.

...meaning the academy not only doesn't like the berg, but for this very reason?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Confused here. In one breath you say they don't like his so called high minded mainstream accessibility(not sure where that comes from), but in the next breath you say that's something he has in common with the berg.

...meaning the academy not only doesn't like the berg, but for this very reason?

Pretty sure he was comparing Nolan to Hitchcock, not Spielberg.

 

[Marvin]

I personally just think nolan films are overrated in several regards and but two in particular are relevant to this discussion.

In communities such as ours(the "superhero" hype) you'll find an exaggerated response to his mostly serviceable to strong treatment of popular material which in cinema, has thus far been treated very poorly. I've even seen the terms genius and god thrown around these parts all too often.

And in the more mainstream communities, it's the layer of intrigue and "complicated" disguised as "complex" that has people thinking he's working wonders when really he's just taking advantage of of the sci fi genre. All that fancy exposition taken out of Inception and you have a story, a raw story as intricate as the Bank Job, with a very fickle premise(just bring the kids to him as that honest trailer said).
note: if you don't want anyone to call out the tech or sci fi in your film, just don't bother even attempting to explain it. This trend is catching on.

The timing is working out great for him too, he's on a roll.

He has his good films. But on sheer directing, sit him down with a small to the point script and let his talents speak for themselves. It's this examination that I believe is what the academy is doing to him. The modern Kubrick? He hasn't demonstrated that imo.

The original Matrix is the real deal, inception is not.

The day WB gives Batman to Aronofski will be the day it's all laid out imo.

 

[rashad]

The original Matrix is the real deal, inception is not.
The day WB gives Batman to Aronofski will be the day it's all laid out imo.

What?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I personally just think nolan films are overrated in several regards and but two in particular are relevant to this discussion.

In communities such as ours(the "superhero" hype) you'll find an exaggerated response to his mostly serviceable to strong treatment of popular material which in cinema that has thus far been treated very poorly. I've even seen the terms genius and god thrown around.

And in more mainstream communities, it's the layer of intrigue and "complicated" disguised as "complex" that has people thinking he's working wonders when really he's just taking advantage of of the sci fi genre. All that fancy exposition taken out of Inception and you have a story, a raw story as intricate as the Bank Job, with a very fickle premise(just bring the kids to him as that honest trailer said).
note: if you don't want anyone to call out the tech or sci fi in your film, just don't bother even attempting to explain it. This trend is catching on.

The timing is working out great for him too, he's on a roll.

He has his good films. But on sheer directing, sit him down with a small to the point script and let his talents speak for themselves. It's this examination that I believe is what the academy is doing to him. The modern Kubrick? He hasn't demonstrated that imo.

The original Matrix is the real deal, inception is not.
The day WB gives Batman to Aronofski will be the day it's all laid out imo.

I don't think I've seen a more incompetent post all day.

 

[Solidus]

I don't think I've seen a more incompetent post all day.

Agreed. But his hatred of Nolan is nothing new. I just say move on. And watch documentaries on time travel/wormholes. I'm watching The Universe episode about time travel and wormholes as we speak.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Ooh, sounds interesting. Is it on Netflix?

 

[747]

Nolanite and proud!

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Ew. Nolanites. Don't be that guy.

 

[Solidus]

Ooh, sounds interesting. Is it on Netflix?

I've never checked honestly, it may be, I just have the series on blu ray. I'm a nut with astronomy lol. One of the episodes is season 5 of it.

 

[Sawyer]

If I never see the words "Nolanite" or "Whedonite" again, it'll be too soon. I love both guys, but just stop.

 

[Marvin]

I don't think I've seen a more incompetent post all day.

I do my best work after 7 eastern time.

 

[Marvin]

What?

What's not to understand. I pretty much said the matrix is successful whereas inception is not. Then I said when someone like Aronofski get's batman, the truth of all of this will be all more apparent.
In case you didn't get that I was implying that Aron is better

Agreed. But his hatred of Nolan is nothing new. I just say move on. And watch documentaries on time travel/wormholes. I'm watching The Universe episode about time travel and wormholes as we speak.

You don't have to hate some one to criticize them. I assume you don't hate me

He's not Kubrick.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

If I never see the words "Nolanite" or "Whedonite" again, it'll be too soon. I love both guys, but just stop.

Sawyer is right twice in one day? What is happening with this world?

 

[redfirebird2008]

What's not to understand.

That's a good question coming from the person who completely misread a comparison with Hitchcock as a comparison with Spielberg.

 

[Sawyer]

Sawyer is right twice in one day? What is happening with this world?

Stick with me, kid. You'll learn a thing or two.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

That's a good question coming from the person who completely misread a comparison with Hitchcock as a comparison with Spielberg. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I assumed your writing was the result of English being your second language. But since you want to mock someone else for not understanding your inchorenet rambling, I'll go ahead and call you out on it.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with people disliking Nolan, but it sounds more like he dislikes Nolan for being popular than for any coherent reason that I have heard.

 

[Marvin]

That's a good question coming from the person who completely misread a comparison with Hitchcock as a comparison with Spielberg. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I assumed your writing was the result of English being your second language. But since you want to mock someone else for not understanding your inchorenet rambling, I'll go ahead and call you out on it.

For starters, English was my second language, I would credit you as being wonderfully astute but I will make my own assumption and and assume you are simply trying to be smug, that being said I don't think I'm doing to bad. I haven't nor do I plan to put much more effort into prose and grammar on hype forums than I already have. I just don't think this is the place. One look at spell check and it would appear you would agree.

I must say I was humbled to find that I did mistake the comparison in my first reading. It's pretty obvious now thank you. Still not sure how I missed that. Also pointing out that the entire point of the post was my confusion.
Maybe next time, I'll just follow up with "what?" instead.

Lastly, I don't recall ever mocking anyone(I believe that is the style of my contemporaries on in this very thread here and their ilk). I simply asked the forward question of what's not to understand about my opinion. Perhaps instead of asking him/her to clarify what they didn't understand I should have just assumed. Which seems to be the popular thing to do.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with people disliking Nolan, but it sounds more like he dislikes Nolan for being popular than for any coherent reason that I have heard.

Another assumption.
By that reasoning one could and should assume I dislike all popular directors. Clearly not the case.
obviously.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

But on sheer directing, sit him down with a small to the point script and let his talents speak for themselves

Small script like Memento?

 

[redfirebird2008]

You weren't mocking him? Sure came across that way.

 

[jacobed]

Aronofsky for Batman? God no, his take on year one was effin terrible

 

[Polaris23]

You guys are amusing.