Iron Man 2 Can we have a fully powered Iron Man in the final fight this time please?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I dont know about anyone else, but the final fight in IM dissapointed me greatly, I liked parts of it, mainly that he used his wits to beat Iron Monger, but the action involved just wasnt interesting enough for me.

So this time, I would like Iron Man to unleash his fully powered armour on whoever the villain is. Also, it could cause more tension, what would be more shockening? A weakened Iron Man being kicked and punched around by a villain, or a FULLY powered Iron Man still being kicked and punched around by a villain?

 

[Iron_Stark]

I agree, I want a full powered Iron Man vs a full powered villain.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^It would add so much more tension to have him fully powered but still getting battered IMO.

 

[Chris B]

I think we will. Just by the fact that the chest piece getting yanked out of Stark's chest/it be damaged would be too repetitive.

 

[Gold Samurai]

It adds tension when the hero is "down" It's a prerequisite that the heroes suit gets torn or damaged in someway(Spider-man's mask)

 

[boog_spin]

i completely agree...IM was a freakin awesome movie, but the last battle was a total letdown...he will obviously be overmathcedd but somehow figure out a way to win hahaha, but give him a chance to let loose this time

 

[powerbomb1411]

It adds tension when the hero is "down" It's a prerequisite that the heroes suit gets torn or damaged in someway(Spider-man's mask)

I disagree with this. The only time I have seen this done well is in the comics. And even then, they don't even do it that much. It's done all the time with Superman and it's incredibly boring. What's the point of having an all powerful superhero if you bring in his weakness and you make him a cripple. I don't want to see a lop sided fight. I just want to see a good fight.

The first two fights with Iron Man? The ones where he won with a little challenge. Those were fun. I'm fine with seeing the hero get beat up a little, but it's not fun when he gets pummeled most of the fight and then barely scrapes by with his one move out of desperation.

 

[WillardNation]

I disagree with this. The only time I have seen this done well is in the comics. And even then, they don't even do it that much. It's done all the time with Superman and it's incredibly boring. What's the point of having an all powerful superhero if you bring in his weakness and you make him a cripple. I don't want to see a lop sided fight. I just want to see a good fight.

The first two fights with Iron Man? The ones where he won with a little challenge. Those were fun. I'm fine with seeing the hero get beat up a little, but it's not fun when he gets pummeled most of the fight and then barely scrapes by with his one move out of desperation.

I agree. This is what has always bothered me with comic/superhero/action movies.

 

[terry78]

In movies it's always a staple that your hero is hurt or damaged beyond belief towards the end so the triumph comes out all the sweeter. The subversion is when they suddenly get a burst of energy and just straight up destroy the enemy at the end. It's a cliche, but people like it.

 

[elgaz]

It creates tension. A straight up fight where no-one gets the upper hand and actually puts the hero at risk lacks the climatic tension needed to build up a film's ending.

In saying that, I agree it's become cliched..........

 

[The IronMan]

I would like to see a more powerfull more durable suit of armor.which of course a villian to match.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It creates tension. A straight up fight where no-one gets the upper hand and actually puts the hero at risk lacks the climatic tension needed to build up a film's ending.

In saying that, I agree it's become cliched..........

But what contains more tension? A weakened IM having his ass handed to him, or a fully powered IM having his ass handed to him, I would have to say the latter.

 

[marcvader]

Just give us a fully powered Iron Man against an even more powerful opponent.

 

[Iron_Stark]

But what contains more tension? A weakened IM having his ass handed to him, or a fully powered IM having his ass handed to him, I would have to say the latter.

I want to see a scene like in issue 290 or 291 when Tony unleashed his full fire power on a large tank/vehicle and it still kept coming, and Tony saying "Who built that thing? I want to hire them."

Not on a tank of course, but on Crimson Dynamo.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I want to see a scene like in issue 290 or 291 when Tony unleashed his full fire power on a large tank/vehicle and it still kept coming, and Tony saying "Who built that thing? I want to hire them."

Not on a tank of course, but on Crimson Dynamo.

Would be an awesome sight to see definately, hope we see this in the new movie.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

I reckon he'll be full-powered but drunk. In most great Comicbook movie fight scenes the hero needs to be disadvantaged in some way. I think his drinking'll be his handicap this time around...

You could have the most powerful suit in the world but when you cant see straight... It doesnt matter.

 

[Mr.LethalWeapon]

What I want is to see the hero deliver his own bit of butt kicking to the enemy. I usually don't want him to be all powerful compared to the enemy (exception being IM vs terrorists in Gulmira, 'cause that scene was awsome) but I do want to see him get several good hits in to punish the bad guy.

One example of where this sort of thing worked well was the climax in Blade 2 with Blade fighting Nomak.

Nomak was stronger, faster, and more durable than Blade, but during the first few minutes of the battle Blade demonstrated that he was far from helpless against him; charging right at Nomak throwing punches, kicks, and elbows to his face. Nomak eventually started to overpower Blade but Blade put up a good fight despite the odds; he didn't spend the whole fight running.

The Spider-Man 2 fights were great too.

Between the 90s cartoon and the first Sam Raimi movie I've come to expect to see Spider-Man be on the defensive during a fight if not completely getting his butt kicked, so when I saw Spider-Man clocking Doc Ock with punches, backhands and freakin' headbutts during Spider-Man 2, I was like, '@#$% yeah Spider-Man, get'm!'

He wasn't helpless in those scenes like he was in the first movie during the fight against Green Goblin, and I was glad for it!

Iron Man's battle with Iron Monger was pretty good IMO, but it could have been more. I wanted to see Iron Man show what he can really do, and I didn't get it. That's what disappointed me, and I think that's what disappointed other people who otherwise had no problems with the movie.

Let's hope they get it right next go-around.

 

[JerseyJoker]

You people are acting we have had a trilogy of Iron man movies where he has been a limited to no power in his suit. Its only been one movie. I doubt they will follow the same strategy over and over, even though it makes it more climatic and a better finish for the act to have your hero be down and out fighting the big bad guy.

But still...Fav's knows what he is doing.

 

[powerbomb1411]

You people are acting we have had a trilogy of Iron man movies where he has been a limited to no power in his suit. Its only been one movie. I doubt they will follow the same strategy over and over, even though it makes it more climatic and a better finish for the act to have your hero be down and out fighting the big bad guy.

But still...Fav's knows what he is doing.

We're just looking at history.

And no, a cripple fighting a powered bad guy doesn't not make for a climatic fight.

I pay to see a superhero movie like Iron Man. I expect to see a superpowered climax.

That's a reason I don't watch Boxing. Every time I see it, they're just avoiding each other in circles or hugging.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

I dont know about anyone else, but the final fight in IM dissapointed me greatly, I liked parts of it, mainly that he used his wits to beat Iron Monger, but the action involved just wasnt interesting enough for me.

I agree, and not just with the final fight the whole movie had bland dull action sequences. I don't know why everybody is so hyped up on that movie, T2 had more 10 times more action than Iron Man and that movie is from 1991.

Iron Man struggling to hold an Audi...what?.. and then he actually gets run over by an Audi and the Audi just drives on undamaged without loosing so much as a rear bumper,...lame.

Then the stupid "icing problem" thing where he gives Iron Monger that gentle love tap on the head..BORING, how about a helmet shattering roundhouse punch instead.

And when all seems hopeless and lost how do we defeat the villain?..simple just walk up and push the Deal or No Deal button and it's over,...weak.

That movie is insanely overpraised. Favreu does not have an an eye for action and it shows glaringly in Iron Man.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I agree, and not just with the final fight the whole movie had bland dull action sequences. I don't know why everybody is so hyped up on that movie, T2 had more 10 times more action than Iron Man and that movie is from 1991.

Iron Man struggling to hold an Audi...what?.. and then he actually gets run over by an Audi and the Audi just drives on undamaged without loosing so much as a rear bumper,...lame.

Then the stupid "icing problem" thing where he gives Iron Monger that gentle love tap on the head..BORING, how about a helmet shattering roundhouse punch instead.

And when all seems hopeless and lost how do we defeat the villain?..simple just walk up and push the Deal or No Deal button and it's over,...weak.

That movie is insanely overpraised. Favreu does not have an an eye for action and it shows glaringly in Iron Man.

you are repeating yourself

 

[T-CLIPSE]

you are repeating yourself

And I'm going to keep repeating it every chance I get.

 

[Iron_Stark]

We're just looking at history.

And no, a cripple fighting a powered bad guy doesn't not make for a climatic fight.

I pay to see a superhero movie like Iron Man. I expect to see a superpowered climax.

That's a reason I don't watch Boxing. Every time I see it, they're just avoiding each other in circles or hugging.

You're clearly not watching the right fights.

 

[Matt Murdock]

I agree, and not just with the final fight the whole movie had bland dull action sequences. I don't know why everybody is so hyped up on that movie, T2 had more 10 times more action than Iron Man and that movie is from 1991.

Iron Man struggling to hold an Audi...what?.. and then he actually gets run over by an Audi and the Audi just drives on undamaged without loosing so much as a rear bumper,...lame.

Then the stupid "icing problem" thing where he gives Iron Monger that gentle love tap on the head..BORING, how about a helmet shattering roundhouse punch instead.

And when all seems hopeless and lost how do we defeat the villain?..simple just walk up and push the Deal or No Deal button and it's over,...weak.

That movie is insanely overpraised. Favreu does not have an an eye for action and it shows glaringly in Iron Man.

I'm not sure you know how much an Audi (or any car for that matter) actually weighs. Iron Man is meant to be plausible. As fantastic as a man making a suit of powered armor that defies gravity is, it'd be even more unlikely that he could palm a vehicle of any sort.

What's more, I'm confused... you'd prefer it if Iron Man's suit didn't ice up when it went into space?

 

[T-CLIPSE]

What's more, I'm confused... you'd prefer it if Iron Man's suit didn't ice up when it went into space?

Okay but it didn't go into space it barley left the atmosphere and it's not so much as the "iceing problem" that I'm complaining about so much as the weak unexciting delivery of that scene and the weak little bonk on the head that sends him plummeting back to the ground, and I just think the entire fight sequence from start to finish was ill concieved and poorly choreographed.

I'm talking about the overall inability of the director to be able to capture dramatic action like James Cameron, like Jerry Bruckheimer, like Louis Letterier, like Michael Bay, like the Wachowski Bros, real action guys who know better than to have a villain get hit with a clinched fist and a gentle tap on the head. Look at the final fight between Megatron and Optimus in Transformers, look at the final fight between Neo and Agent Smith in The Matrix, look a the final fight between Terminator and T-1000 in T2, look a the final fight between Hulk and Abomination, and then look at the fight between Iron Man and Iron Monger...which one is the weakest of the five?.....thank you.

Favreau needs to watch those other movies and take some action notes.