Capturing Le Chifre

[Garzo]

I thoroughly enjoyed this film but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: MI5 and the CIA are going to so much trouble in trying to get their hands on le Chifre, entering this high-stakes poker game with millions -- and taking a huge chance of losing the money and their target -- in order to get to him and his information.

While I know it's drama and based on Flemming's book, it does seem very far-fetched, especially in today's world.

Rather than join a high-stakes poker game in order to catch a financier of terrorism, today's CIA and MI5 agents would simply have clubbed le Chifre somewhere in the hotel, put a sack over his head, pumped a syringe full of knockout drug into his neck and had him locked up in Guantanamo in less than 12 hours -- and we know that the Americans have ways of making these guys talk. Hell, they probably would have simply flown him to a secret CIA dungeon in Poland in order to get a quick interogation over a dunking pool or on the rack.

Card games? I don't think today's secret agents would bother.

 

[xwolverine2]

thats how it was in the book......so dont blame the movie.

and the queen of england would spit on this movie for making all of our countries look like savages......

and its not very bond like.......... same could be said about any other bond movie (why not just nuke all the ****ers)

lol.....its a bond movie

 

[xwolverine2]

....and to add......

LE CHIFFRE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SpideyLad]

....and to add......

LE CHIFFRE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

Yes, but he had a pretty crappy death

 

[odiin]

I doubt Le Chiffre's henchmen would have allowed for that to happen.

 

[AndrewBerger]

Mi6

 

[Darthphere]

I thoroughly enjoyed this film but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: MI5 and the CIA are going to so much trouble in trying to get their hands on le Chifre, entering this high-stakes poker game with millions -- and taking a huge chance of losing the money and their target -- in order to get to him and his information.

While I know it's drama and based on Flemming's book, it does seem very far-fetched, especially in today's world.

Rather than join a high-stakes poker game in order to catch a financier of terrorism, today's CIA and MI5 agents would simply have clubbed le Chifre somewhere in the hotel, put a sack over his head, pumped a syringe full of knockout drug into his neck and had him locked up in Guantanamo in less than 12 hours -- and we know that the Americans have ways of making these guys talk. Hell, they probably would have simply flown him to a secret CIA dungeon in Poland in order to get a quick interogation over a dunking pool or on the rack.

Card games? I don't think today's secret agents would bother.

The point was to bankrupt him, then that would cause his clients to go after him, he would need to seek refuge with the CIA or Mi6 to stay alive and in turn give them all his terrorist clients up. Pretty simple and brilliant plan in my book.

 

[xwolverine2]

Spoiler

Yes, but he had a pretty crappy death

he had the best death........

he didnt feel a thing

 

[The Englishman]

I thoroughly enjoyed this film but I couldn't help but wonder throughout: MI5 and the CIA are going to so much trouble in trying to get their hands on le Chifre, entering this high-stakes poker game with millions -- and taking a huge chance of losing the money and their target -- in order to get to him and his information.

While I know it's drama and based on Flemming's book, it does seem very far-fetched, especially in today's world.

Rather than join a high-stakes poker game in order to catch a financier of terrorism, today's CIA and MI5 agents would simply have clubbed le Chifre somewhere in the hotel, put a sack over his head, pumped a syringe full of knockout drug into his neck and had him locked up in Guantanamo in less than 12 hours -- and we know that the Americans have ways of making these guys talk. Hell, they probably would have simply flown him to a secret CIA dungeon in Poland in order to get a quick interogation over a dunking pool or on the rack.

Card games? I don't think today's secret agents would bother.

James Bond works for MI6 not MI5. Sorry just had to correct you on that one. t:

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I was going to do the same, lol.

Really, it's a pretty good plan. It all falls on the guy they send in, in this case Bond, and luck. Vesper hated the plan, but it all worked out.

And really.....the whole, "shove his head in sack" thing....wouldn't have worked since it seems Le Chiffre knew what was happening.