CASINO ROYALE is *not* a reboot

[Agentsands77]

CASINO ROYALE has improperly been dubbed a reboot. CASINO ROYALE isn't a reboot - it's not a new series, so to speak, since it still features the hallmarks of the old series like the gunbarrel logo and the James Bond theme.

What is CASINO ROYALE then? It's a retcon. What the heck is a retcon? Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon.

 

[Dope Nose]

what's it retconning?

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Thanks for the info Agentsands, but I think most of the posters here already knew that it wasn't a restart/reboot.

 

[Agentsands77]

Thanks for the info Agentsands, but I think most of the posters here already knew that it wasn't a restart/reboot.

Well, actually, I think most people are confused as to its nature. CASINO ROYALE is not a prequel (it contradicts what little continuity there was, and is set in modern times), but it ain't a reboot either.

What it effectively *can* be dubbed is a retcon, which gives it a name and reconciles the idea of CASINO ROYALE being in the same series, but also breaking with continuity.

 

[Drago]

I'm actually keeping my fingers crossed that this is a sequel. We've got Judi Dench, and I'm kinda hoping that along with the number 007, the name James Bond is assigned too, meaning that the spy played by Brosnan could very well just be the predecessor to the spy that Craig is.

Why do I hope its a true sequel? Because chronologically I want things to fit, this can't be a prequel due to setting, and I would hate to see newer versions of classic films like Thunderball or From Russia With Love.

 

[Agentsands77]

I'm actually keeping my fingers crossed that this is a sequel. We've got Judi Dench, and I'm kinda hoping that along with the number 007, the name James Bond is assigned too, meaning that the spy played by Brosnan could very well just be the predecessor to the spy that Craig is.

We *know* it isn't a sequel, so call it a day with that one.

And I personally think the idea of having the name "James Bond" being a codename is absolutely appalling.

 

[warren_sparta27]

We *know* it isn't a sequel, so call it a day with that one.

And I personally think the idea of having the name "James Bond" being a codename is absolutely appalling.

yeah, i'm not a fan of that idea either

 

[johnsonuk]

I'm actually keeping my fingers crossed that this is a sequel. We've got Judi Dench, and I'm kinda hoping that along with the number 007, the name James Bond is assigned too, meaning that the spy played by Brosnan could very well just be the predecessor to the spy that Craig is.

Why do I hope its a true sequel? Because chronologically I want things to fit, this can't be a prequel due to setting, and I would hate to see newer versions of classic films like Thunderball or From Russia With Love.

personally i hate the idea of him been given the name along with the number.

though that would get around the continuity thing with the goldeneye speach"mysoginist dinasaur"

but i am looking at it as a restart,another timeline if you will.

no matter how you say it,if he has just recieved his double '0' then it preceeds DR NO.
it is as if they are back at the start line,we have seen the direction connery's bond went in(lazenby/moore/dalton/brosnan)now we are starting fresh to see what direction craigs bond id going in.

just the way i see it.

 

[Drago]

Since people are looking at it as a complete restart then, how do you guys feel about them redoing some of the older Bond films if it comes to that? There are good stories there, but like I said, I don't know if I'd want a redo of some of the classic Bond films.

On a side note, while people hate the idea of "James Bond" being a codename (and I agree for the most part)- you've gotta admit that he wouldn't be throwing around his true identity to everyone

 

[Agentsands77]

On a side note, while people hate the idea of "James Bond" being a codename (and I agree for the most part)- you've gotta admit that he wouldn't be throwing around his true identity to everyone

Actually, he *is*. CASINO ROYALE has a whole running dialogue about how Bond believes covers are now somewhat outdated and doesn't hesitate to use his real name. M even scolds him about it at one point.

 

[javi1024]

i guess i havent been keeping up to date with casino royale, so all this talk about "retcon", "sequel/not sequel" is all new to me. i just figured this was the next film in the series (even though its the first book/mission) and all the talk about new "00" was just a flashback. i guess it kinda bothered me continuity-wise because in Goldeneye judi dench was a new female M and they acknowledged it in the story. but if its a retcon then i guess i can get over it.

and wasnt it already established that James Bond is his real name?