Cast The Movie In A Previous Time - Part 1

Scream 4 (2001)

Directed by: Wes Craven

Sidney Prescott- Ally Sheedy
Gale Weathers-Riley- Demi Moore
Dewey Riley- Alan Ruck
Sherri (Stab universe)- Jennifer Love Hewitt
Jenny Randall- Jaime King
Charlie Walker- Jake Gyllenhaal
Rebecca Walters- Katie Holmes
Trudie (Stab)- Cerina Vincent
Robbie Mercer- Frankie Muniz
Chloe (Stab)- Amanda Seyfried
Trevor Sheldon- Chad Michael Murray
Marnie Cooper- Mena Suvari
Olivia Morris- Keira Knightley
Judy Hicks- Nicole Kidman
Ross Hoss- Ashton Kutcher
Anthony Perkins- Ice Cube
Jill Roberts- Brittany Murphy
Kate Roberts- Jane Fonda
Rachel (Stab)- Scarlett Johannson
Kirby Reed- Jodi Lyn O'Keefe
 
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THE STAND ( 1986)
Director : Clint Eastwood
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The Cast



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Randal Flagg : Rutger Hauer

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Mother Abagail : Ruby Dee

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Stu Redman : Patrick Swayze

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Frannie Goldsmith : Ally Sheedy

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Harold Lauder : Matthew Modine

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Nick Andros : C Thomas Howell

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Larry Underwood : Dennis Quaid

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Lloyd Henreid : Eric Roberts

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Trashcan Man : Brad Dourif

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Julie Lawry : Rebecca Demornay


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Tom Cullen : Jeff Daniels
 
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1920s Silent film:

Fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, ...miracles!

Lillian Gish - The Princess Bride / Buttercup
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Douglas Fairbanks - Wesltey / Dread Pirate Roberts
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Antonio Moreno - Inigo Montoya
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Johan Aasen - Fezzik
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Mario Caserini - Vizzini
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John Barrymore - Prince Humperdinck the Hunter
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Rudolph Valentino - Count Rugen
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Lon-Chaney - The Albino
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Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford (heavy makeup) - Miracle Max and Valerie
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Mr and Mrs Smith (2022)- Remake of the 2005 Brangelina action comedy classic

Directed by: Chad Stahelski

Jane Smith- Margot Robbie
John Smith- Henry Cavill
Benjamin "The Tank" Danz- Logan Lerman
Eddie- Dave Franco
Jasmine- Zazie Beetz
 
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From the director of A Clock Work Orange, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket...




THE PURGE ( 1989)
Director : Stanley Kubrick
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The Cast





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James Sandin : Michael Douglas

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Mary Sandlin : Anne Archer

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Zoey Sandin : Jennifer Connelly

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Charlie Sandin : Joaquin Phoenix

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Henry : Johnny Depp

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Polite Leader : Kiefer Sutherland

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Dwayne : Samuel L Jackson


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Grace Ferrin : Joanna Kerns
 
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THE BATMAN (1939)
Director : Orson Welles
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The Cast



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Batman : Orson Welles ( Citizen Kane)


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Catwoman : Fredi Washington ( Imitation of Life)


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Riddler : Peter Lorre ( Casablanca )


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Penguin : Edward G Robinson ( Key Largo)


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James Gordon : Clark Gable ( Gone With The Wind)


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Alfred Pennyworth : Claude Rains ( Mr. Smith Goes To Washington)


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Carmine Falcone : Boris Karloff ( Frankenstein )


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Bella Real : Lena Horne ( Stormy Weather)


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Pete Savage : Thomas Mitchell ( It's A Wonderful Life)


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Gil Coulson : Fredric March ( Seven Days In May)

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Annika : Marlene Dietrich

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Chief Mackenzie Bock : Alan Hale ( The Adventures Of Robin Hood )


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Dory : May Whitty ( The Lady Vanishes)


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Officer Martinez : Cesar Romero
 
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In the style of a 1950s and early 1960s epic like Ben Hur...


HAWKMAN (1958)
Director : Cecil B. DeMille

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The Cast


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Hawkman/ Khufu/ Carter Hall : Charlton Heston


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Hawkgirl/ Shiera Sanders
/Chay-Ara :Inger Stevens


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Hath-Set / Vandal Savage : Ricardo Montalban



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The Shadow thief : Peter O'Toole


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Copperhead : Reggie Nalder



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Kristopher Rodrick: Omar Sharif



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The Gentleman Ghost : Rex Harrison
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In the style of a big budget 1980s tv movie




THE BLACK PANTHER (1987)
Script : Alex Haley
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The Cast


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Black Panther /T' Challa : Denzel Washington


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Erik Killmonger : Wesley Snipes


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Nakia : Lynn Whitfield


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Okoye : Grace Jones


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Shuri : Robin Givens


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Claw : Dennis Hopper


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T' Chaka : James Earl Jones


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Ramonda : Nichelle Nichols


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M'Baku : Mr. T


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W'Kabi : LeVar Burton


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Zuri : Ben Vereen


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N'Jobu : Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs


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Young T'Chaka : Richard Brooks


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Everett K. Ross : Derek Jacobi
Those would have been sensational.
Would have loved to seen some strong gritty 70s grindhouse minority exploitation era themed takes on:

Black Panther
Shang-Chi
The upcoming Mesoamerica/Yucatán Aztlán take on Namor

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And of course...
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Although Marvel actually had their own gritty exploitation team going in the 70s Deadly Hands Magazine:
The Sons of The Tiger Franchise:
I imagine Bruce Lee, Jim Kelly & John Saxon were the templates for Lin Sun, Abe Brown, and Bob Diamond.

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Maybe add a young Raul Julia for Hector Ayala
or Steven (Esteban Ernesto Echevarría Samson) Bauer

From way back
Cast The Movie In A Previous Time
Lin Sun - Bruce Lee
Bob Diamond - Chuck Norris
Abe Brown - Jim Kelly
Hector Ayala - Steven (Esteban Ernesto Echevarría Samson) Bauer
Det. Blackbyrd - Jim Brown
Lotus Shinchuko - Judy Lee
 
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BATMAN VERSUS DRACULA ( 1985)
Director : John Carpenter
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The Cast


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Batman/ Bruce Wayne : Alec Baldwin


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Dracula / Count Alucard : Alan Delon


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Vicki Vale : Meg Ryan


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Joker : Tim Curry



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Penguin : Joe Pesci



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Alfred Pennyworth : Nichol Williamson
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...Zorro has fought the Supernatural, and himself used supernatural weapons; a sword forged with magic and alchemy, an amulet linked to his [Fox] spirit guide, etc...
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Hmm although 85 is a bit earlier, that cast would have worked for the Hopkins/Banderas-Zeta Jones version for this crossover too!
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Imagine Zorro, Dracula, Batman in a shred U. :wow::D
 
Those would have been sensational.
Would have loved to seen some strong gritty 70s grindhouse minority exploitation era themed takes on:

Black Panther
Shang-Chi
The upcoming Mesoamerica/Yucatán Aztlán take on Namor


A 1970s era Shang Chi could have looked something like this


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SHANG CHI AND THE LEGEND OF THE TEN RINGS (1972)
Director: Peter Hunt
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The Cast




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Shang-Chi : Bruce Lee


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Xialing : France Nuyen


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WenWu : Torshiro Mifune


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Katy : Tsai Chin


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Jiang Nan : Lisa Lu


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Leiko Wu : Nancy Kwan


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Wong : Harold Sakata


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Razor Fist : Lou Ferrigno


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Death Dealer : Bolo Yeung


 
Hmm although 85 is a bit earlier, that cast would have worked for the Hopkins/Banderas-Zeta Jones version for this crossover too!
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Imagine Zorro, Dracula, Batman in a shred U. :wow::D


Batman and Zorro? I can Dig it:word::D.


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A 1970s era Shang Chi could have looked something like this


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SHANG CHI AND THE LEGEND OF THE TEN RINGS (1972)
Director: Peter Hunt
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The Cast




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Shang-Chi : Bruce Lee


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Xialing : France Nuyen


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WenWu : Torshiro Mifune


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Katy : Tsai Chin


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Jiang Nan : Lisa Lu


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Leiko Wu : Nancy Kwan


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Wong : Harold Sakata


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Razor Fist : Lou Ferrigno


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Death Dealer : Bolo Yeung



Perfect
 
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Us (1985)

Director: George Romero

Cast

Adelaide/Red: Grace Jones

Gabe/Abraham: Bill Duke

Zora/Umbrae: Tempestt Bledsoe

Jason/Pluto: Jaleel White

Kitty/Dahlia: Adrienne Barbeau

Josh/Tex: Dan Aykroyd
 
Those would have been sensational.
Would have loved to seen some strong gritty 70s grindhouse minority exploitation era themed takes on:

Black Panther

Shang-Chi
The upcoming Mesoamerica/Yucatán Aztlán take on Namor

--------

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Although Marvel actually had their own gritty exploitation team going in the 70s Deadly Hands Magazine:
The Sons of The Tiger Franchise:
I imagine Bruce Lee, Jim Kelly & John Saxon were the templates for Lin Sun, Abe Brown, and Bob Diamond.

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Maybe add a young Raul Julia for Hector Ayala


In Keeping with the 1970s Grindhouse feel...


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BLACK PANTHER ( 1977)
Director : Melvin Van Peebles
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The Cast



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T'Challa : Sidney Poitier

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Eric Killmonger : Carl Weathers


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Nakia : Diahann Carroll

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Shuri : Glory Hendry

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Okoye : Pam Grier

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Claw : George C Scott

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Everett K. Ross: Robert Duvall

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M'Baku : James Earl Jones

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W'Kabi : Brock Peters

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Ramonda : Beah Richards

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Zuri : John Amos


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N'Jobu : Richard Roundtree


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Young T'Chaka : Billy Dee Williams


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T' Chaka : Percy Rodriguez
 
In Keeping with the 1970s Grindhouse feel...


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BLACK PANTHER ( 1977)
Director : Melvin Van Peebles
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The Cast



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T'Challa : Sidney Poitier

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Eric Killmonger : Carl Weathers


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Nakia : Diahann Carroll

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Shuri : Glory Hendry

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Okoye : Pam Grier

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Claw : George C Scott

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Everett K. Ross: Robert Duvall

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M'Baku : James Earl Jones

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W'Kabi : Brock Peters

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Ramonda : Beah Richards

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Zuri : John Amos


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N'Jobu : Richard Roundtree


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Young T'Chaka : Billy Dee Williams


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T' Chaka : Percy Rodriguez

A 1970s era Shang Chi could have looked something like this


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SHANG CHI AND THE LEGEND OF THE TEN RINGS (1972)
Director: Peter Hunt
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The Cast




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Shang-Chi : Bruce Lee


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Xialing : France Nuyen


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WenWu : Torshiro Mifune


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Katy : Tsai Chin


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Jiang Nan : Lisa Lu


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Leiko Wu : Nancy Kwan


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Wong : Harold Sakata


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Razor Fist : Lou Ferrigno


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Death Dealer : Bolo Yeung

These are terrific!

I guess the third one is a little tougher
The characters confirmed so far are
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Not sure who their 70s analogues would be?
 
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Speaking of Zorro...


THE MARK OF ZORRO ( 1987)
Director : Steven Spielberg
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The Cast




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Zorro/ Diego De La Vega : Jimmy Smits

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Don Alejandro de la Vega : Caser Romero

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Lolita Quintero : Maria Alonso

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Captain Esteban Pasquale : Edward James Olmos


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Sgt. Gonzales : Robert Davi

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Inez Quintero : Rosanna DeSoto


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Don Luis Quintero : René Enríquez


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Fray Felipe : Anthony Quinn


 
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These are terrific!

I guess the third one is a little tougher
The characters confirmed so far are
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Not sure who their 70s analogues would be?


I was thinking about that , and the closet I could come up with in the late 1970s might be...

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Namor : Lorenzo Lamas

Or

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Namor : Erik Estrada


Namora : Bianca Jagger

Or

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Deborah Van Valkenburgh


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Attuma : Ricardo Montalban

But yeah, in the 70s it's tougher.
It's easier from the 1980s onward.
 
Doom (1985)

Directed by: James Cameron
Written by: Wes Craven

John "Reaper" Grimm- Sylvester Stallone
Dr Samantha Grimm- Nancy Allen
Asher "Sarge" Mahonin- Arnold Schwarzenegger
Roark "Destroyer" Gannon- Carl Weathers
Eric "Goat" Fantom- Dolph Lundgren
Gregory "Duke" Schofield- Ricco Ross
Dean Portman- James Spader
Mark "The Kid" Dantalian- Johnny Depp
Marcus "Pinky" Pinzerowski- Bill Paxton
Heil Knight/Curtis Stahl- Vernon Wells
Carmack Imp- Robert Englund
Sewer Imp- Dick Warlock
Katsuhiko "Kumanosuke" Mac Takahashi- Bolo Yeung

Dr Todd Carmack- Robert Englund
Sanford Crosby- Ronny Cox
 
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In the keeping with the style of a , gritty , crime and action 1970s, film...




DAREDEVIL : THE MOTION PICTURE (1974)
Director : Francis Ford Coppola
Script : Mario Puzo
Music : Henry Mancini
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The Cast




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Daredevil/ Matt Murdock : Christopher Walken



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Electra / Elektra Natchios : Talia Shire


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Kingpin / Wilson Fisk : Marlon Brando


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The Owl : Oliver Reed


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Bullseye : Robert Deniro


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Ben Urich : Gene Hackman


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Karen Page : Diane Keaton


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Foggy Nelson : Albert Brooks


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Black Widow : Maude Adams


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Vanessa Fisk : Anne Bancroft


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Stick : Sterling Hayden


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Claire Temple : Rosalind Cash


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Jack Murdock : James Caan

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Young Matt Murdock : Mike Lookinland
 
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In the keeping with the style of a , gritty , crime and action 1970s, film...




DAREDEVIL : THE MOTION PICTURE (1974)
Director : Francis Ford Coppola
Script : Mario Puzo
Music : Henry Mancini
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The Cast




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Daredevil/ Matt Murdock : Christopher Walken



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Electra / Elektra Natchios : Talia Shire


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Kingpin / Wilson Fisk : Marlon Brando


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The Owl : Oliver Reed


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Bullseye : Robert Deniro


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Ben Urich : Gene Hackman


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Karen Page : Diane Keaton


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Foggy Nelson : Albert Brooks


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Black Widow : Maude Adams


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Vanessa Fisk : Anne Bancroft


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Stick : Sterling Hayden


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Claire Temple : Rosalind Cash


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Jack Murdock : James Caan

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Young Matt Murdock : Mike Lookinland

That's fantastic, I would have been in the theater quick to see that.
Remember the floated 70s TV Daredevil they had once proposed?
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Although Angela Bowie as Black Widow would have been fun, your Maude Addams the bigger budget and sensational cast is what it deserved.
I would watch all the hypothetical spinoff movies on the strength of that cast, (Maude Addams) Black Widow solo, the (James Caan) Battling Jack Murdock prequel, a Ben Urich (Gene Hackman) and Karen Page (is she a reporter in this continuity?, and of course Bullseye (Deniro) solo, as he's shaped and exploited by the King Pin.
Love Walken yet he has such a unique stand out presence and mannerisms, could he ever disguise himself?
With Copolla Directing, and Brando as King Pin, I could also have see Martin Sheen as Matt Murdock (yet likely to on the nose)
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On a similar note wasn't Fellini once going to do a Phantom film? Is that what became the Diabolik character?
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Apparently it was the other Lee Falk character Mandrake.

Also need to know who is your Punisher in that incredible 70s cast?
 
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That's fantastic, I would have been in the theater quick to see that.
Remember the floated 70s TV Daredevil they had once proposed?
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Although Angela Bowie as Black Widow would have been fun, your Maude Addams the bigger budget and sensational cast is what it deserved.
I'de watch all the hypothetical spinoff movies on the strength of that cast, (Maude Addams) Black Widow solo, the (James Caan) Battling Jack Murdock prequel, a Ben Urich (Gene Hackman) and Karen Page (is she a reporter in this continuity?, and of course Bullseye (Deniro) solo, as he's shaped and exploited by the King Pin.
Love Walken yet he has such a unique stand out presence and mannerisms, could he ever disguise himself?
With Copolla Directing, and Brando as King Pin, I can also see Martin Sheen as Matt Murdock (yet likely to on the nose)
d8cd0c9b2238a089fed83bc23a5d8189.jpg


On a similar note wasn't Fellini once going to do a Phantom film? Is that what became the Diabolik character?
Edit:
Apparently it was the other Lee Falk character Mandrake.

Also need to know who is your Punisher in that incredible 70s cast?

I never would have thought of Sheen as Murdock, but I could totally see it :yay:.

I didn't know that Fellini was going to do a Phantom film in the 1970s.

It makes me interested to see what it would have been like in terms of it's setting and tone.
Would it have been set in the 30s ala with a retro feel to it or would it have been a darker , modern day , 1970s feel?

In terms of a 1974 Punisher , that's another tough one.

In a 1970s film version of Punisher , they would probably have taken the Bronson/ Eastwood, archetype of a 40 something guy whose family is killed and who feels the law and society has let criminals run amuck .

That having been said, if I'm thinking in terms of a contrast to a relatively younger Walken Murdock, then another younger actor , who comes to mind in the late 1970s would be Tom Berenger.

He would have been too young at 30 to be a veteran cop in 1979.
Then again, he would have been old enough the be drafted in Vietnam, and having a wife a child by 30 was the more the norm then .

So, it would have to be a dynamic of the character of more of a younger, hungrier, Vietnam vet / Cop, who's avenging his relatively younger wife and child.

On the one hand, you loose the aspect of the seasoned avenger using his life worth of training and knowledge to take people on.

On the other hand, you're dealing with a younger, unrelenting guy who's alot harder to get through to and reason with, and more likely to have the energy and drive to keep pushing things to the extremes.

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SONS OF THE TIGER ( 1976)
Director : Robert Clouse
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The Cast




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Master Kee : Keye Luke


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Abe Brown : Bernie Casey


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Bob Diamond : David Soul


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Lin Sun : Evan C Kim


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Lotus Shinchuko : Rosalind Chao


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Hector : Erick Estrada


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Ava Ayala : Raquel Welch


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Detective BlackByrd : Julius Harris
 
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SONS OF THE TIGER ( 1976)
Director : Robert Clouse
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The Cast




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Master Kee : Keye Luke


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Abe Brown : Bernie Casey


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Bob Diamond : David Soul


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Lin Sun : Evan C Kim


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Lotus Shinchuko : Rosalind Chao


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Hector : Erick Estrada


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Ava Ayala : Raquel Welch


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Detective BlackByrd : Julius Harris

Love it.
From way back - .Cast The Movie In A Previous Time
Had the more traditional analogues Enter The Dragon trio.
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Hector always seemed more Caribbean than chicano,
Hector Ayala - Steven (Esteban Ernesto Echevarría Samson) Bauer (Manny Ribera from Scarface)
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Det. Blackbyrd - Jim Brown
Lotus Shinchuko - Judy Lee

And yeah that soundtrack.:D
 
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Love it.
From way back - .Cast The Movie In A Previous Time
Had the more traditional analogues Enter The Dragon trio.
+
Hector always seemed more Caribbean than chicano,
Hector Ayala - Steven (Esteban Ernesto Echevarría Samson) Bauer (Manny Ribera from Scarface)
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Det. Blackbyrd - Jim Brown
Lotus Shinchuko - Judy Lee

And yeah that soundtrack.:D

Awesome cast!
Bauer would have been great!

Gosh, I wish I knew about that thread years ago.
I coulda been posting stuff with everyone else.
For the life of me, I don't know how I missed it back then.
 
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THE FANTASTIC 4 ( 1978)
Director : George Lucas
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The Cast



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Mr. Fantastic / Reed Richards : Barry Bostwick

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Invisible Woman/ Sue Storm : Lindsay Wagner

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Human Torch/ Johnny Storm : Parker Stevenson

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The Thing/ Ben Grimm : Stacy Keach

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Doctor Doom / Victor Von Doom : Timothy Dalton

 
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In keeping with the 1970s theme...




THE FANTASTIC 4 ( 1978)
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The Cast



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Mr. Fantastic / Reed Richards : Barry Bostwick

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Invisible Woman/ Sue Storm : Lindsay Wagner

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Human Torch/ Johnny Storm : Parker Stevenson

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The Thing/ Ben Grimm : Stacy Keach

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Doctor Doom / Victor Von Doom : Timothy Dalton


Nice,, I always wondered what a Lucas created Marvel film would look like. Vader clearly had parallels elements to Doom.
Although the bigger parallel opus would have been Jack Kirby's Fourth World saga, particularly Darkseid, the Source, and the Pact story line.
Imagine Lucas on that in 70s-80s

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