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Supergirl Cat knows Kara is Supergirl and here's why

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A. Why I believe Cat knows that Kara is Supergirl

1. Alex and Eliza

When Cat figured out that Kara was Supergirl, Cat investigated Kara's life very deeply, even going so far as to get her report cards from grade school. There is no way Cat could have investigated Kara's life so thoroughly without seeing pictures of Alex and Eliza.

In the final episode of the first season, Cat ended up in an old television station with Max, J'onn, Supergirl, Alex, and Eliza. The notion that Cat wouldn't have recognized them is simply absurd. I consider this to be absolute proof that Cat knows Kara is Supergirl.

2. James, Winn, and Barry

Cat knows that Kara, James, and Winn are close friends. In the episode "Falling," it is clear that Cat also knows that James and Winn are close friends with Supergirl. In the episode "World's Finest," Cat reveals that she knows Barry is the Flash, and she must realize that the Flash's association with Kara, James, and Winn while simultaneously working with Supergirl could not have been a coincidence.

This is not definitive, but it seems absurd that Cat would fail to realize that Kara is connected to the same people Supergirl is connected to.

3. Bizarro

During Kara's date with Adam, Bizarro kidnapped her. Cat never asked why Bizarro would target Kara (which, since Cat is a journalist, is simply stunning in itself), nor did Cat seem surprised at Kara's return. This is the opposite of the way a person would normally react upon hearing about a friend being abducted by a supervillain.

Again, this is not definitive, but it is extremely telling.


B. Cat's behavior
This means Cat is pretending not to know Kara's secret, which I think is perfectly within character. But this raises two questions:

1. How does Cat reconcile this knowledge with the fact that she saw Kara and Supergirl standing next to each other?

2. If Cat knows Kara is Supergirl, why didn't Cat continue to threaten to fire Kara like she did immediately after originally figuring that out?

The first question is easy to answer. Cat knows perfectly well that aliens with many strange powers exist, and that Supergirl works with a government agency which uses highly advanced technology. Cat may not know exactly how Kara performed the illusion, but she would have no trouble believing that it was an illusion.

I find the second question much more interesting, and I believe I have an answer for that, as well.

Cat is sometimes inconsistent. In some episodes, she is extremely health-conscious; in others, she's downing boxes of cupcakes and drinking fattening drinks because life is short. After Kara broke up with Adam, Cat insisted that her and Kara's relationship should be strictly professional; several episodes later, Cat freely advised Kara on how to land James as a boyfriend – and this after sharply criticizing Kara earlier in the season for throwing herself at James. Therefore, I conclude that Cat often changes her mind without admitting it and without explaining it, and I think she could easily do the same with her attitude towards Kara's secret.


C. My theory

When Cat figured out Kara was Supergirl, she wanted to fire Kara because A) superheroes should not lower themselves to the status of fetching coffee, and B) Supergirl's time could be much better served by helping people every possible moment. When Cat delivered her ultimatum, she assumed Kara would fold and admit that she was Supergirl.

But Cat was wrong. Kara stuck to her guns and gave Cat an impassioned speech, telling Cat how much she loved her job. Cat also stuck to her guns, so Kara stuck to her guns even further and resigned.

In that moment, Cat realized she had gone too far, and that she needed to back off and let Supergirl be Supergirl. But Cat couldn't back down from her ultimatum because she can't afford to lose face. That was why she told Kara, "You could at least finish out the day." Cat sounded snide, but it was obvious that she didn't actually want Kara to leave.

So when Kara performed her illusion, Cat rolled with it. It gave her a way to back down from her ultimatum without losing face. She even said that Kara and Supergirl looked nothing alike, which is simply absurd.

This would also explain why Cat seemed to forgive Kara so easily for breaking up with Adam. She may have realized that Kara pushed Adam away in order to protect him. As Adam's mother, she would have appreciated this very much.
 
The main question I ask in this is...will Kara make it all official to her former boss and somewhat idol?
 
My impression, based mostly on nuances of the actress' performance, is that she knows, or very strongly suspects, but prefers to play along because that's what Kara wants.

I think that's probably for the best, as it creates a somewhat different dynamic between Cat and Kara than between Kara and the rest of the cast.

But, if they decide to be more direct about it, then that could work also.

I guess my personal preference would be for it to remain on the "eyewink"-level, so to speak.
 
My impression, based mostly on nuances of the actress' performance, is that she knows, or very strongly suspects, but prefers to play along because that's what Kara wants.

I think that's probably for the best, as it creates a somewhat different dynamic between Cat and Kara than between Kara and the rest of the cast.

But, if they decide to be more direct about it, then that could work also.

I guess my personal preference would be for it to remain on the "eyewink"-level, so to speak.
I agree.
 
It made absoliutely no sense that Cat didnt know. Glad to see it finally acknowledged. When she made reference to knowing Jimmy was Gurdian due to seeing part of his face through his mask, i was like come on, yet you dont see Supergirl through Kara's glasses?
 
I have a question in this; when did Cat FIRST know Kara and Supergirl were one and the same? Perhaps it was because Cat may have seen (and perhaps this could be done via flashback) Kara turn into Supergirl. Maybe with Calista perhaps doing a little more time on the show, we may get that chance...I hope.
 
I have a question in this; when did Cat FIRST know Kara and Supergirl were one and the same? Perhaps it was because Cat may have seen (and perhaps this could be done via flashback) Kara turn into Supergirl. Maybe with Calista perhaps doing a little more time on the show, we may get that chance...I hope.

She figured it out last season and approached Kara about it. MM morphed as Supergirl so the two could be seen in the same place and Cat seemed to go with that, or so we thought....



MM taking on her form seemed like a convenient way out of it, but it never made sense why Cat would buy it. She took Kara's glasses off and saw that she and Supergirl had the same exact face. If anything seeing them together would just invite more questions as to why they look alike and what the true connection is with the two women. To me, its more believable that she's known since episode 8 and has only been playing along with what Kara wanted ever since
 
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She figured it out last season and approached Kara about it. MM morphed as Supergirl so the two could be seen in the same place and Cat seemed to go with that, or so we thought....



MM taking on her form seemed like a convenient way out of it, but it never made sense why Cat would buy it. She took Kara's glasses off and saw that she and Supergirl had the same exact face. If anything seeing them together would just invite more questions as to why they look alike and what the true connection is with the two women. To me, its more believable that she's known since episode 8 and has only been playing along with what Kara wanted ever since


I don't think she was playing along from ep. 8 on... I think she started thinking about it again in ep. 18 with Barry, and again solidified it in ep. 19 and 20.
 
Honestly, I thought she started re-thinking it in "Bizzarro," since Kara was literally the first one to suggest there's someone who looks exactly like Supergirl out there. Cat was very excited and intrigued by that suggestion.
 
Honestly, I thought she started re-thinking it in "Bizzarro," since Kara was literally the first one to suggest there's someone who looks exactly like Supergirl out there. Cat was very excited and intrigued by that suggestion.

However, her reaction to KARA in regards to her son, made me think that she didn't know because HAD she thought, or understood who she was I think she would have understood. The simple fact that she isn't the least upset that Kara didn't tell her makes me think that Cat understands Kara/Supergirl very well, and in Bizarro the fact that she pretty much told her that she was selfish, made me think at that point she didn't know.
 
I think Cat would have reacted irrationally about Adam no matter what, though, because it was Adam.
 
I think Cat would have reacted irrationally about Adam no matter what, though, because it was Adam.

I don't think so, I think she reacted to Kara because she was as close, if not closer to Kara and she felt betrayed at that moment....and her extreme reaction was because she saw Kara as her daughter...probably moreso than Adam as her son. So, again, had she known that Kara was Supergirl, I think she would have walked into the situation with a different frame of mind, and therefore handled the outcome with a different frame of mind...meaning one not so emotional. Because as much as she was trying to get across to Kara that she wanted the emotion out of their relationship, told me that it was overflowing in it.
 
I agree that her decision to keep emotion out of it meant that she was overflowing with it, but I don't think the knowledge or suspicion of Kara being Supergirl changes that either way.

Or maybe that's just because I think Kara's reasoning for dropping Adam was BS, even knowing she was Supergirl, lol. It was a seriously weak episode, imo, and I didn't buy much of the character stuff at all.
 
I agree that her decision to keep emotion out of it meant that she was overflowing with it, but I don't think the knowledge or suspicion of Kara being Supergirl changes that either way.

Or maybe that's just because I think Kara's reasoning for dropping Adam was BS, even knowing she was Supergirl, lol. It was a seriously weak episode, imo, and I didn't buy much of the character stuff at all.

Oooooh, I didn't like that episode at all....it has grown on me with a few viewings, but still on the bottom of my Season 1 ratings list.
 
She figured it out last season and approached Kara about it. MM morphed as Supergirl so the two could be seen in the same place and Cat seemed to go with that, or so we thought.... MM taking on her form seemed like a convenient way out of it, but it never made sense why Cat would buy it. She took Kara's glasses off and saw that she and Supergirl had the same exact face. If anything seeing them together would just invite more questions as to why they look alike and what the true connection is with the two women. To me, its more believable that she's known since episode 8 and has only been playing along with what Kara wanted ever since

This is how she knows; once it became public that Hank Henshaw was a shape-shifting alien heading up the DEO - and then Kara and Alex admitted to Cat in season 2 episode 21 in the bar that they work for the DEO.

Cat is smart and would have realized it and put 2 and 2 together; I kind of expected her to look at Kara right away and say: "so...that was Hank Henshaw shape-shifting that night in my office, wasn't it?" Would have made for a funny, emotional scene for sure.

Obviously, since the 1940s the use of eyeglasses for Clark has been a silly plot device/slim costume piece, almost a running joke that it would not fool anyone, which is why so many new characters created since like Batman wear face masks with better cover stories.

The last nail in the coffin is the voice, forget about Kara's appearance - the voice is the same, and Cat has spoken to both SG and Kara at length.
 
I don't think the voices are the same at all, and I often marvel at how differently Melissa plays both parts. So well, that to me they don't look enough alike to make an immediate judgment.

However, I don't think they can keep Lena from knowing too much longer because the more time she spends with Supergirl and Kara she has to at some point figure it out. Though she hasn't spent near the time with SG/Kara as Cat has....
 
I don't think the voices are the same at all, and I often marvel at how differently Melissa plays both parts. So well, that to me they don't look enough alike to make an immediate judgment.

However, I don't think they can keep Lena from knowing too much longer because the more time she spends with Supergirl and Kara she has to at some point figure it out. Though she hasn't spent near the time with SG/Kara as Cat has....


Its the same exact voice. Ive been watching for 2 years and havent noticed any difference in how Kara sounds vs Supergirl. They definitely look alike for obvious reasons. Its not like the mid 90s in the comics when Supergirl literally looked differently than her persona, Linda Danvers. I dont see how a change of clothes and one's hair pulled back is sufficient enough to say they dont look alike. Cat could tell that Jimmy was Guardian from his eyes through his mask. He was covered from head to toe and disguised his voice. That makes it seem inplausible that she wouldnt be able to tell Kara apart who has done even less to hide her identity

With that said, I think thats just one of the things you are supposed to ignore. Ive also noticed other small things such as Kara and Supergirl wearing the same earrings when speaking to Cat, that you would think someone as perceptive as her would pick up, but goes unnoticed
 
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Its the same exact voice. Ive been watching for 2 years and havent noticed any difference in how Kara sounds vs Supergirl. They definitely look alike for obvious reasons. Its not like the mid 90s in the comics when Supergirl literally looked differently than her persona, Linda Danvers. I dont see how a change of clothes and one's hair pulled back is sufficient enough to say they dont look alike. Cat could tell that Jimmy was Guardian from his eyes through his mask. He was covered from head to toe and disguised his voice. That makes it seem inplausible that she wouldnt be able to tell Kara apart who has done even less to hide her identity

With that said, I think thats just one of the things you are supposed to ignore. Ive also noticed other small things such as Kara and Supergirl wearing the same earrings when speaking to Cat, that you would think someone as perceptive as her would pick up, but goes unnoticed

And that's your opinion. Mine happens to be different.... :)

As far as hair, when it is pulled back it is almost 2 shades darker than when it is totally down in Supergirl mode...that is obvious. And as far as clothes, I didn't mention clothes....I mentioned how Melissa plays both parts. She plays them as two totally different people, and that comes off well. James is a macho man, as James and as Guardian. ;)

Maybe she saw James as a hero all along, even when he didn't. And it wasn't until this season that Cat said Kara was on a heroes journey....so maybe once she saw Kara as a hero, that is when she saw Kara as Supergirl.

I believe it was James himself that said most people cannot believe that there is a hero standing right in front of them. Maybe once Cat saw Kara as a hero, she saw KARA ZOR EL. I would venture to say that Cat began seeing Kara as a hero in Ep. 18 with Flash.....and it has grown since then up until her reveal that she knew who she was.
 
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And that's your opinion. Mine happens to be different.... :)

As far as hair, when it is pulled back it is almost 2 shades darker than when it is totally down in Supergirl mode...that is obvious. And as far as clothes, I didn't mention clothes....I mentioned how Melissa plays both parts. She plays them as two totally different people, and that comes off well. James is a macho man, as James and as Guardian. ;)

Maybe she saw James as a hero all along, even when he didn't. And it wasn't until this season that Cat said Kara was on a heroes journey....so maybe once she saw Kara as a hero, that is when she saw Kara as Supergirl.

I believe it was James himself that said most people cannot believe that there is a hero standing right in front of them. Maybe once Cat saw Kara as a hero, she saw KARA ZOR EL. I would venture to say that Cat began seeing Kara as a hero in Ep. 18 with Flash.....and it has grown since then up until her reveal that she knew who she was.

I would say that the voice is the same, but the highly conservative work clothes kara wears along with the goofy persona vs the more confident, stronger tone as Supergirl is supposed to give us the illusion that she is 2 different people.

That said, the voice differential is not like the Emperor in Star Wars, where he presents two wholly distinct voices when speaking as the Sith Lord/Emperor vs. Senator Palpatine. I don't think she is intending - nor the directors' aims - are for her to use two different voicings as each role communicates, more of a tonality difference.
 
I would say that the voice is the same, but the highly conservative work clothes kara wears along with the goofy persona vs the more confident, stronger tone as Supergirl is supposed to give us the illusion that she is 2 different people.

That said, the voice differential is not like the Emperor in Star Wars, where he presents two wholly distinct voices when speaking as the Sith Lord/Emperor vs. Senator Palpatine. I don't think she is intending - nor the directors' aims - are for her to use two different voicings as each role communicates, more of a tonality difference.
I think her speech pattern is different so the she doesn't sound exactly the same. Example she doesn't use as many contractions as Supergirl i.e. says I will rather than I'll.

As for the hair being an effective disguise. I have long hair that I usually wear down and a couple of times when I've worn it up, friends who I was meeting up with passed right by me in restaurant bars. Never underestimate the power of a gorgeous head of hair, it's often the first thing others notice and what is remembered.
 
Welcome to the hype Brierrose.... :)
 
I think her speech pattern is different so the she doesn't sound exactly the same. Example she doesn't use as many contractions as Supergirl i.e. says I will rather than I'll.

As for the hair being an effective disguise. I have long hair that I usually wear down and a couple of times when I've worn it up, friends who I was meeting up with passed right by me in restaurant bars. Never underestimate the power of a gorgeous head of hair, it's often the first thing others notice and what is remembered.

theres a difference between passing you by though and having at length conversations with you. I would hope they didnt still confuse you after one!
 
theres a difference between passing you by though and having at length conversations with you. I would hope they didnt still confuse you after one!
Of course they knew it was me once I walked up to the table they were sitting at, we all had a good laugh. The second time with different friends I actually waited because I was curious how long it would take them to recognize me, it took 10 minutes and I was looking at them practically the whole time. This actually started an interesting discussion about how observant of our surroundings we think we are versus how observant we actually are. My point is people tend to not see what they are not expecting to or don't want to see. Lucy didn't recognize Kara as Supergirl in part because she didn't want to.

I totally believe Cat has known Kara is Supergirl since S1E8. J'onn flying into her office as Supergirl so Cat would see them together may have caused her to doubt it for a bit but no way by the end of season one she doesn't know. Cat is playing along because she knows it's what Kara needs from her.
 
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Of course they knew it was me once I walked up to the table they were sitting at, we all had a good laugh. The second time with different friends I actually waited because I was curious how long it would take them to recognize me, it took 10 minutes and I was looking at them practically the whole time. This actually started an interesting discussion about how observant of our surroundings we think we are versus how observant we actually are. My point is people tend to not see what they are not expecting to or don't want to see. Lucy didn't recognize Kara as Supergirl in part because she didn't want to.

I totally believe Cat has known Kara is Supergirl since S1E8. J'onn flying into her office as Supergirl so Cat would see them together may have caused her to doubt it for a bit but no way by the end of season one she doesn't know. Cat is playing along because she knows it's what Kara needs from her.

Cat also says it in season 2, so I think to go backwards at this point would be from a writing standpoint, rather silly.

She must also realize how important her home/work/non-supergirl life is to her, so rather than try to trample on Kara, she plays along. I also think Cat prides herself a great deal that she has Supergirl working for her, even if she doesn't tell anyone. That might also be another reason she wasn't too upset or disappointed that the relationship with Kara and Adam didn't pan out; it might drive a wedge between them when Cat appears to want Kara to stay as a core part of Catco.
 

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