Documentary/Biopic Christopher Nolan’s Oppenheimer

My gif was included in that video tho.
You are right. I missed that close-up shot. I had not seen it before. Just the first wide shot footage and the very close-ups at the end.
Overall, just to be clear, I totally agree with you. I don't think the forced perspective shots worked. It didn't have the awesome horror that it should have. It is a testament to the overall quality of the film that Nolan messing up such a money shot was largely inconsequential to the overall quality of the film.
 
The rest of the movie afterwards (and especially the Los Alamos speech scene, that was downright horrifying and one of the best sequences Nolan has ever directed in his career) made up for the disappointment of Trinity.
 
The rest of the movie afterwards (and especially the Los Alamos speech scene, that was downright horrifying and one of the best sequences Nolan has ever directed in his career) made up for the disappointment of Trinity.
Yeah,
the gymnasium sequence is the true climax of the Manhattan Project/Los Alamos storyline and it is ****ing spectacular. Trinity being underwhelming doesn't matter because of it. Same with the horrifying nightmare sequence at the end during the pond chat with Einstein.
 
This was really, really good. It’s clear that everyone involved, from Nolan all the way down to the 12th assistant to the backup grip was on their A game. I think there are some sequences that don’t 100% work but you can see what the film is trying to do and even when things don’t land you have to credit them with taking big swings. And when they do connect it’s just electrifying. This is a must-see in theaters and a day 1 blue ray buy.
 
Full thoughts below:

Might need some time to still process the entire ordeal, but as of right now I think this is legitimately Nolan's best film and one that is going to stick with me for a long while after seeing it. He handled Oppenheimer and the subject matter in a nuanced, but still concise way with what the overall message is. Lord knows certain detractors of this movie will keep regurgitating biased misconceptions as criticisms, also because some folks just hate Nolan with the firey passion of a thousand suns (pun somewhat intended) for some godforsaken reason. But to me, it worked for the most part.

Things I disliked

- The sex scene(s) was... weird. I don't want the remembrance of Oppenheimer's I Am Become Death speech that he gave clearly haunted by what he'd done irl, to now be associated with the film version of him saying it while Jean Tatlock is riding him on the bed. I haven't read American Prometheus yet, but even with that in mind, I can't imagine this was something that actually happened. And while I do get what Nolan was going for with Kitty visualizing Oppenheimer cheating on her with Jean in that one interrogation scene, it just came across as jarring and unintentionally comical.

- The movie's kinetic pacing was a bit too much for me at first. It was quite distracting how quick it was moving along for the first hour or so, with most scenes being so short where it almost felt like they were rushed. Fortunately the rest of the movie was paced better, but yeah, it was bit rough for me to get used to.

- The Trinity sequence had terrific build-up and execution... except for the actual bomb effects themselves. It looked much too small in comparison of the gigantic scope of the real test and lacked the necessary weight it needed. I respect Nolan's adversity for CGI in this, but I genuinely do believe that some major CGI touch-ups could have made a lot of improvements. It just did not have the intended effect that he intended.

Things I liked/love

- Every performance in this movie, no matter how big or how small, worked really well imo. If Cillan Murphy, RDJ and Emily Blunt don't get Oscar nominations for this movie, any shred of integrity the Academy has left will be extinguished.

- Ludwig Goransson score is just. Perfection. It gave scenes that would otherwise be uneventful or not leave much of an impact (in particular every interrogation scene) a sense of adrenaline and dread. It fit Nolan's experimental visuals beautifully and enhanced every sequence of the movie. Currently listening to the Trinity track right now, it was that good.

- Oppenheimer's neurotic visions and hallucinations were demonstrated beautifully and it helped foreshadow Oppenheimer's inner conflict and the ramifications of the atom bomb.

- Despite being disappointed by the Trinity bomb effects, the rest of the sequence had absolutely fantastic build-up and contrasting the I Am Become Death line with the mushroom cloud in eerie silence was phenomenally haunting.

- The last hour or so of this movie, which I could see turning a lot of general audiences off, was my favorite part of this movie. Nolan went above and beyond to make Oppenheimer's tribulations and Strauss' plotting feel engaging which is very commendable since that last hour mostly comprises of interrogations and people talking in rooms.

- I liked the way Nolan interpreted Oppenheimer in this movie. A very flawed man (had no idea he tried to poison one of his teachers when he was younger, jesus) who whose well-intentioned naivety and ingenuity led to him realizing the true consequences of his creation too late. Anyone saying that this movie glorifies him is phenomenally ignorant or was already looking to hate the movie before seeing it.

- The scene with Truman announcing the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, contrasted with the whiplash of the cheers of people in the gymnasium and the disgust and regret of the scientists afterwards was terrific. I was not disappointed that they didn't show those bombins, having the characters react to it and process the fallout was much more impactful.

- The ending. That's going to haunt me for a long time.

And that's all that comes to my head for now. I already know not everyone is going to enjoy this movie, particularly due to the long running time (which didn't feel long to me at) and the numerous court scenes, but I was 110% engaged in this film and now left pondering the question of whether we'll face the threat of a nuclear war in the future now more than ever.
 
One of the most brilliant effects of this movie is how it's impact gets stronger as time goes on after having seen it. I found myself being unable to stop thinking about the film the next day and it's only grown since then. I can't wait for Monday to get here so I can watch it again
 
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Yeah,
the gymnasium sequence is the true climax of the Manhattan Project/Los Alamos storyline and it is ****ing spectacular. Trinity being underwhelming doesn't matter because of it. Same with the horrifying nightmare sequence at the end during the pond chat with Einstein.
I think the end scene is my favorite in the whole movie honestly. Legit gave me chills.
 
The rest of the movie afterwards (and especially the Los Alamos speech scene, that was downright horrifying and one of the best sequences Nolan has ever directed in his career) made up for the disappointment of Trinity.
Trinity wasn’t a disappointment… the drop out of audio, the tense feeling of it all. It conveyed what it needed to do, it changed history. They blew up a first of its kind bomb in the desert.

The moments and actions that happened after that, speaks louder than that day.
 
Trinity wasn’t a disappointment… the drop out of audio, the tense feeling of it all. It conveyed what it needed to do, it changed history. They blew up a first of its kind bomb in the desert.

The moments and actions that happened after that, speaks louder than that day.
I elaborated more on this in my full review earlier, but my issue with that scene was not its execution. Far from it. Just that I felt that whatever VFX Nolan used made the bomb seem much smaller and less impactful than it actually was, looking at stock footage.

I do agree with everything else you said though.
 
Trinity wasn’t a disappointment… the drop out of audio, the tense feeling of it all. It conveyed what it needed to do, it changed history. They blew up a first of its kind bomb in the desert.

The moments and actions that happened after that, speaks louder than that day.
You are misunderstanding those who raise that gripe. Although the sequence is great...
the effects don't live up to the real thing, especially for anyone who has read the book. The actual visuals described by those were there were far more awesome and eerie. It is disappointing because Nolan nails so many details in the book, except that moment.
 
Well, f*** me. That's a LOT of movie to digest. I'm too mentally spent to even bother getting too in the weeds on it right now, but all I can say is I felt tense AF from beginning to end. Just unbelievable how he does that. The JFK comparisons were spot-on. It's been years since I've seen that but this movie got me itching to rewatch it. To me it's really like the tone of JFK perfectly mashed up with Nolan's signature editing style.

As for the Trinity test, all I can say is that seeing it projected on a 6 story IMAX screen...it didn't feel too small at all, but I know I'm lucky to have gotten to experience it that way. I appreciated the visceral feeling of it, which was definitely due to the commitment to capture it all in camera. It made it feel like you were there, which was the point. Fair enough if it falls short of the real descriptions. All I can say is my entire theater was on pins and needles that whole time and it played like gangbusters. My wife was shaking.

Gonna need more time to sit with it. This very well might be Nolan's best movie, but it's also honestly his most disturbing and depressing. I'm not saying that as a negative, it just is because of the subject matter. The combo of Nolan's extremely powerful cinematic command with the ideas and history this movie is tackling made for a pretty overwhelming experience for me. I mean it in the best way, but also in the "I may actually need to go see Barbie ASAP" to lighten my mood sort of way.

And Cillian needs two Oscars, one for each of those hauntingly beautiful eyes. ♥️
 
I have officially seen Barbenheimer (in that order).

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Wasn't able to do Barbenheimer this weekend. A tree knocked down a wire outside my theatre, which caused a blackout that fried their projectors, and Friday's shows were canceled. Am now doing Tuesday instead.
 
I'll see barbie eventually. But I'd rather watch oppenheimer again haha.
 
It is astonishing to me how some folks who've watched this movie completely get the wrong idea and act as if it's the fault of the movie. As well as people who
say this movie should have put a lot more emphasis on the Japanese and the indians and how they were affected by the bomb and how that's a major issue with the movie... even though the movie is a biopic on Oppenheimer and mostly focused on him and the way his actions affect the world.

Or worse, and I read this on Reddit yesterday, unironically going into this movie expecting a bombastic action movie and not getting those expectations met, therefore hating the movie. Now, to be fair, there are some criticisms hurled towards this film that I definitely understand the point of view, but there are just so many other ignorant and narrow-minded opinions that read the movie completely wrong and it baffles me.
 
Wow

What an experience that was. Not just a movie- an experience. This might be one of Nolan's best outings and absolutely worth seeing in an IMAX theater. A good chunk of this film felt like slowly going up a roller coaster and waiting for the moment. You know it's coming, you're familiar with how this goes without knowing all of the details, but you're still tense throughout. Not just powerful performances all around and cinematography, but this felt like an equal drama and political thriller with the suspect of who you can and can't trust.

When the moment hit- you know the one- I swear that you could hear a pin drop in the theater. I've never seen an audience so engrossed in such a singular moment that it hushed everyone into silence. No kids crying. No one chewing popcorn. Just everyone in as much awe as the characters were themselves. This was a fantastic film and it had more recognizable faces in it than I thought! I must say, when
Rami Malek
showed up twice and didn't say anything, I thought 'He's not just here for that, is he? Luckily, that wasn't the case.

Acting-wise, everyone is spot-on, but I really want to give a round of applause to Robert Downey Jr. This reminded me of when I saw The Judge and remembered that, hey, when you take him out of these cookie cutter Marvel movies, you remember that this man is a great actor! Not to say he didn't have strong points in the MCU (though Iron Man 1, Civil War, and Endgame come to mind), he was firing on all cylinders here and I hope he continues with these more dramatic performances.
 

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