Fantasy Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey

[DKDetective]

This is not a a good thing in my view. Using star power and FOMO to empty the pockets if fans even sooner, without them getting anything extra for it. It just looks greedy.

You shouldn't comment on things you don't know about. This was not some grift. It is literally the only way of preserving traditional film projection. Oppenheimer had major issues maintaining the necessary equipment and trained projectionists for its 70mm run.

These pre-sales are being done as a way of funding the necessary equipment and staffing. It is not some attempt to exploit fans, which is why the pre-sale only involved the 70mm film theatres.

 

[Snow Queen]

You shouldn't comment on things you don't know about. This was not some grift. It is literally the only way of preserving traditional film projection. Oppenheimer had major issues maintaining the necessary equipment and trained projectionists for its 70mm run.

These pre-sales are being done as a way of funding the necessary equipment and staffing. It is not some attempt to exploit fans, which is why the pre-sale only involved the 70mm film theatres.

I don't know what exactly the issue was, but worth noting as well that Dune Part 2 seemed to run into issues as well, cancelling 70mm screens last minute.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

You shouldn't comment on things you don't know about. This was not some grift. It is literally the only way of preserving traditional film projection. Oppenheimer had major issues maintaining the necessary equipment and trained projectionists for its 70mm run.

These pre-sales are being done as a way of funding the necessary equipment and staffing. It is not some attempt to exploit fans, which is why the pre-sale only involved the 70mm film theatres.

The point is that we're dealing with huge companies here, both the theater chain and the film studio that wants to use their venues for 70 mm projection. There are clearly other ways to finance that without charging customers a year in advance. That has nothing to do with not understanding why they are doing it, so the first sentence becomes a bit ironic.

 

[Sawyer]

lol remember when folks tried to convince us this was going to be about helicopter pilots?

 

[J.Drangal]

lol remember when folks tried to convince us this was going to be about helicopter pilots?

Hey, could still happen... Who knows what spin Nolan will put on this mythology?

 

[Boom]

lol remember when folks tried to convince us this was going to be about helicopter pilots?

 

[blueharvest]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The point is that we're dealing with huge companies here, both the theater chain and the film studio that wants to use their venues for 70 mm projection. There are clearly other ways to finance that without charging customers a year in advance. That has nothing to do with not understanding why they are doing it, so the first sentence becomes a bit ironic.

Genuine question. Do you think anyone who bought a ticket didn't want to? That they aren't happy they have a ticket booked for 70mm screening of what many considered to be our greatest living director in a year's time? That they weren't going to try and get some if this date was 9 months down the road?

I know that if they offered me the chance to buy a, "The Force Awakens" ticket in Dec 2014 I would have. It's just fans being fans. No one is getting hurt.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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Christopher Nolan Urged to Halt ‘The Odyssey’ Filming in Occupied Western Sahara: ‘Contributing to Morocco’s Repression of the Sahrawi People’

Well, that sucks.

50 years? Jesus Christ.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

Genuine question. Do you think anyone who bought a ticket didn't want to? That they aren't happy they have a ticket booked for 70mm screening of what many considered to be our greatest living director in a year's time? That they weren't going to try and get some if this date was 9 months down the road?

I know that if they offered me the chance to buy a, "The Force Awakens" ticket in Dec 2014 I would have. It's just fans being fans. No one is getting hurt.

Of course people wanted to buy the tickets. Most bad business practices rely on there being a demand for the products/services, even far worse cases than this, so it's a given that it's the case here.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Of course people wanted to buy the tickets. Most bad business practices rely on there being a demand for the products/services, even far worse cases than this, so it's a given that it's the case here.

What is the bad business practice here? They bought tickets to a movie they are going to see.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

What is the bad business practice here? They bought tickets to a movie they are going to see.

Big companies pushing the financial burden of something onto the customers unnecessarily early.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Big companies pushing the financial burden of something onto the customers unnecessarily early.

It's the exact same "financial burden" if they were to walk up to the theater on the night and get them. Except that would be impossible because 70mm Nolan sells out faster then new Pokemon sets. What is your arbitrary cut off point on when tickets going on sale is "too early" and what do you base it on?

 

[Lily Adler]

Hey, could still happen... Who knows what spin Nolan will put on this mythology?

Tarsem Singh beat him to let's make the mythological creatures real approach.

 

[FrankenCastle]

It's ironic that Nolan gets to direct the Odyssey, since he was set to direct Troy back in 2003 before dropping out. I'm very curious to see his take on the siege of Troy. I guess that's where the movie starts, since a Trojan horse was spotted on set in southern Morocco.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's ironic that Nolan gets to direct the Odyssey, since he was set to direct Troy back in 2003 before dropping out. I'm very curious to see his take on the siege of Troy. I guess that's where the movie starts, since a Trojan horse was spotted on set in southern Morocco.

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I didn't know he was suppose to direct that. Now I'm hurting!

 

[FrankenCastle]

I didn't know he was suppose to direct that. Now I'm hurting!

It's a win-win situation, he went in to make Batman Begins instead, both produced by Warner Bros.

Troy Director's Cut is one of my favorite movies ever.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's a win-win situation, he went in to make Batman Begins instead, both produced by Warner Bros.

Troy Director's Cut is one of my favorite movies ever.

Was that an either/or situation? Troy came out in 2004. Before I believe Begins even started filming.

 

[FrankenCastle]

Was that an either/or situation? Troy came out in 2004. Before I believe Begins even started filming.

The story of Troy is pretty much set in stone, they had to strike while the iron is hot before the peplum mania that Gladiator initiated starts to fan out. But Batman, that's a different story. Warner Bros was still uncertain about how to handle the character after Batman & Robin. Wolfgang Petersen, the director of Troy was also attached to direct a Batman & Superman movie starring Colin Farrell and Jude Law, but WB passed on it; they also passed on Darren Arronowfsky's take on Batman Year One. When Nolan got handed the project, he had to start from square one, pitch new ideas, and it took more time.

At least, that's what I got from David S. Goyer's interview with Josh Horowitz.

Over Two Decades Ago, Christopher Nolan Almost Helmed A Historical Action Film Starring Brad Pitt

Nolan came that close to directing the movie, but went on to work on The Dark Knight Trilogy instead.

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[Mjolnir Reborn]

It's the exact same "financial burden" if they were to walk up to the theater on the night and get them. Except that would be impossible because 70mm Nolan sells out faster then new Pokemon sets. What is your arbitrary cut off point on when tickets going on sale is "too early" and what do you base it on?

No, it's not the same financial burden, restricted equity is the whole point of why the companies did this and it's a very basic aspect in business. It's just that the companies don't want to have that money tied up and they make the customers do it instead. I base it on how this market works and to charge a year in advance is far outside the norm. This criticism isn't new and there's been a plenty of discussion on it in various fields.

I find it more odd that people want to dig up a short comment from almost a month and a half ago to defend big companies when the discussion had long since moved on. What is it about this that makes it such a big deal for you?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, it's not the same financial burden, restricted equity is the whole point of why the companies did this and it's a very basic aspect in business. It's just that the companies don't want to have that money tied up and they make the customers do it instead. I base it on how this market works and to charge a year in advance is far outside the norm. This criticism isn't new and there's been a plenty of discussion on it in various fields.

It is the same financial burden on the customer. Who are the only potentially injured party. But as they are getting the tickets, they are not being wronged in anyway. Have you ever seen how 70mm tickets sell for Nolan flicks? As soon as they go on sale, they sell. There is no complaint. None. Bringing up "various fields" is trying to move the goal posts to completely different sports. We're talking about getting movie tickets. That will be used. They are also pretty. Nice bonus.

I find it more odd that people want to dig up a short comment from almost a month and a half ago to defend big companies when the discussion had long since moved on. What is it about this that makes it such a big deal for you?

Uh huh. People don't spend every waking hour on this place checking new posts nor do many check the date on them. they reply to the post. That there was less then a full page between your post and DK's (where I saw the post) shows why people didn't see it until recently. Nothing odd about that in a low traffic thread.

It's not a big deal to me. I saw the post and engaged in a discussion on it on a discussion board. This is not odd in the slightest.

Why did you decide to appeal to emotion with this post? I never said anything about any company. I simply pointed out that it's people buying movie tickets they completely intend to use. Ones that are notoriously hard to snag. And you still haven't made an argument for why it's in anyway nefarious. Other then some arbitrary reason for why it's "too early". As if it's not the exact same money being spent for the exact same reason it was always going to be spent.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

It is the same financial burden on the customer. Who are the only potentially injured party. But as they are getting the tickets, they are not being wronged in anyway. Have you ever seen how 70mm tickets sell for Nolan flicks? As soon as they go on sale, they sell. There is no complaint. None. Bringing up "various fields" is trying to move the goal posts to completely different sports. We're talking about getting movie tickets. That will be used. They are also pretty. Nice bonus.


Uh huh. People don't spend every waking hour on this place checking new posts nor do many check the date on them. they reply to the post. That there was less then a full page between your post and DK's (where I saw the post) shows why people didn't see it until recently. Nothing odd about that in a low traffic thread.

It's not a big deal to me. I saw the post and engaged in a discussion on it on a discussion board. This is not odd in the slightest.

Why did you decide to appeal to emotion with this post? I never said anything about any company. I simply pointed out that it's people buying movie tickets they completely intend to use. Ones that are notoriously hard to snag. And you still haven't made an argument for why it's in anyway nefarious. Other then some arbitrary reason for why it's "too early". As if it's not the exact same money being spent for the exact same reason it was always going to be spent.

No, having money out of pocket for a longer time is not the same. If it was then companies wouldn't be focusing on restricted equity all the time, which they of course do. I get reports about that every week in my work. Normal people should be thinking of it too when they plan their economies in general, although most don't. And my post was clearly about the companies, not criticizing people for buying a ticket.

Bringing up "various fields" was just a short way of saying that well established companies trying to dump risk and burden onto others it's a common talking point and thus nothing to be surprised about.

Bringing up things that are several weeks old falls quite far beyond someone expecting people to spend every waking hour in this place, so that defense became quite over-exaggerated, and I just found it curious that that short post gets brought up twice this far afterwards, which made it look like a big deal. To me it certainly isn't and defending big companies pushing more onto the customers isn't really something that interests me so I'll just leave it at that. My original short post already said everything.