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[Gotham]

This has probably already been mentioned, but anyone think The Joker footage with the blue tint is simply him on Wayne's computer? Looking at them, they all seem to have a blue tint..

 

[Carnotaur3]

Why is the action on the left instead of on the right? Is there even a definitive answer for that?

He's talking about the shots crossing the invisible 180 degree line. It's a "no no" in cinematography unless it's a motivated shot to do so. I wouldn't judge the two shots that way yet because they could very well be take from different parts of the scene. That Joker laugh could come in at a different time after a motived 180 turn.

 

[Carnotaur3]

This has probably already been mentioned, but anyone think The Joker footage with the blue tint is simply him on Wayne's computer? Looking at them, they all seem to have a blue tint..

Dude, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. He's looking at Surveilence footage of Joker robbing some banks.

 

[Joker'sHenchman]

He's talking about the shots crossing the invisible 180 degree line. It's a "no no" in cinematography unless it's a motivated shot to do so. I wouldn't judge the two shots that way yet because they could very well be take from different parts of the scene. That Joker laugh could come in at a different time after a motived 180 turn.

I'm sorry, I still don't completely understand what you mean. Was he talking about the Lamborghini or the Batman/ Joker interrogation? What is the whole rule on the '180' rule?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but I want to get into film when I get older and I think that something like this seems pretty important, which makes me feel kinda foolish for not already knowing...

 

[xwolverine2]

Yeah, d a very big smile, could have been a factor

im still not convinced lol

 

[Maestro8000]

Dude, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. He's looking at Surveilence footage of Joker robbing some banks.

I thought that too at first, but why would the security camera be moving towards the Joker?

 

[Bond]

Anyone else having problems with the site?

 

[Crook]

I'm sorry, I still don't completely understand what you mean. Was he talking about the Lamborghini or the Batman/ Joker interrogation? What is the whole rule on the '180' rule?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but I want to get into film when I get older and I think that something like this seems pretty important, which makes me feel kinda foolish for not already knowing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/180_degree_rule

You're not in college yet, right? You learn all about it in Film 101.

This shot alone deserves an Oscar:

The colors are well shot, but that's hardly Oscar material. Have you seen this year's nominees for the category? They were some beautiful and truly magnificent cinematography.

 

[Anita18]

Ahh, I love people who talk about cinematography as if they know what it is. Let me ask...why is the action on the left, and not on the right? I mean, you have such a respect for cinematography and all..

Cause, another police car is gonna come in at the right side at aaaany moment.

It's like when you say a woman is beautiful and suddenly the "expert" arrives and is like: "Hmm... I love when people talk about women as if they know what they are. Her facial structure isn't quite perfect. I mean, you have such a respect for women and all..."

LOL my aunt is a plastic surgeon and apparently you can't watch pageants with her since she starts talking about how the women can get this-and-this procedure done.

Gotham plates are made to look like Illinois plates (see Batman Begins). This is done on the off chance that a plate is seen in the distance, it can still cover as Gotham plates.

Ooh, that's clever.

Eh, I see a normal set of teeth. Heath is opening his mouth pretty wide. If you look at the same pictures blown up (I think it is back in the thread a bit), you can easily count the teeth. I think what looks like more teeth are the molars in the back (which have a groove in the middle of them looking like smaller teeth).

I open my mouth pretty darned wide when I smile too, and it's the same thing. You can see the sides of my molars.

He's talking about the shots crossing the invisible 180 degree line. It's a "no no" in cinematography unless it's a motivated shot to do so. I wouldn't judge the two shots that way yet because they could very well be take from different parts of the scene. That Joker laugh could come in at a different time after a motived 180 turn.

I've only heard the "180 degree line" referred to when filming a two-person conversation, not an action scene. Action shots require context. We have no idea if a car is supposed to come in from the right side or move to the right side, which is actually the feeling I get when I look at that shot, because it is unbalanced.

But when two characters are having a conversation, you're supposed to establish location and if you break the 180 degree line, you confuse the audience as to where they are and which character is talking.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I'm sorry, I still don't completely understand what you mean. Was he talking about the Lamborghini or the Batman/ Joker interrogation? What is the whole rule on the '180' rule?
Sorry to ask so many questions, but I want to get into film when I get older and I think that something like this seems pretty important, which makes me feel kinda foolish for not already knowing...

Okay imagine your filming the interrogation room scene with Joker and Bats. We start off with an OTS (over the shoulder) shot from Joker to Bats. The same shot where he says "You wanted me? Here I am." Okay, that side we're shoot on, we've established an imaginary 180 degree line. We can move the camera anywhere on this line, switching focus from Batman to Joker. But we can not cross this line, because when the camera cuts back to another character their line of sight as been shifted and seems off.

So in the trailer, Batman is looking camera right. If they had stayed on the line with Joker, Joker should be looking camera left, so that the two seem like they are looking at each other. Instead, in the trailer, Joker is looking camera right. The same direction as Batman. If this wasn't a trailer and the scene played out as so, it would knock off your viewing of the scene and wouldn't feel right.

The only way you can motivate to the other side of this line is if you move the camera over there while filming.

 

[Crook]

I think the confusion here is that the original poster was referring to the shot composition of the Lambo, and the lack of using space in that shot.

While Carnotaur was referring to the interrogation scene and following the 180 degree camera rule.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I thought that too at first, but why would the security camera be moving towards the Joker?

It could be just a digital zoom in for the trailer or an actual zoom in on the shot.

 

[Anita18]

Okay imagine your filming the interrogation room scene with Joker and Bats. We start off with an OTS (over the shoulder) shot from Joker to Bats. The same shot where he says "You wanted me? Here I am." Okay, that side we're shoot on, we've established an imaginary 180 degree line. We can move the camera anywhere on this line, switching focus from Batman to Joker. But we can not cross this line, because when the camera cuts back to another character their line of sight as been shifted and seems off.

So in the trailer, Batman is looking camera right. If they had stayed on the line with Joker, Joker should be looking camera left, so that the two seem like they are looking at each other. Instead, in the trailer, Joker is looking camera right. The same direction as Batman. If this wasn't a trailer and the scene played out as so, it would knock off your viewing of the scene and wouldn't feel right.

The only way you can motivate to the other side of this line is if you move the camera over there while filming.

Ooohhhh, you were talking about that scene!

Yeah, they seem to break the 180 degree line there. It's still pretty clear that Batman and Joker are confronting each other, so I don't think it's a terrible transgression of that rule. Directors are free to do what they wish, and there are directors who have broken that rule in the past.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I think the confusion here is that the original poster was referring to the shot composition of the Lambo, and the lack of using space in that shot.

While Carnotaur was referring to the interrogation scene and following the 180 degree camera rule.

Oh I see. Sorry, I was looking for the OP's post and couldn't find it so I was assuming he was talking about the interrogation room scene since I saw the flaw.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Ooohhhh, you were talking about that scene!

Yeah, they seem to break the 180 degree line there. It's still pretty clear that Batman and Joker are confronting each other, so I don't think it's a terrible transgression of that rule. Directors are free to do what they wish, and there are directors who have broken that rule in the past.

Like I said... if it's motivated t:

 

[Anita18]

Like I said... if it's motivated t:

Which we won't know until we see the film. t:

 

[Carnotaur3]

Which we won't know until we see the film. t:

Right! And like I said, the shot of Joker laughing could be in a different place at the scene.

 

[Joker'sHenchman]

Thanks everyone for the clarification. I just graduated high school and plan to go to community college before transferring to a good film college in California, so all of this stuff is pretty important. ****, what do I need to go to expensive film college for, when I have everybody on the SHH! boards.lol.

 

[Die Laughing]

I just count 8 teeth here. I don't think its been digitally enhanced.




- Ahahahaha!

 

[Maestro8000]

It could be just a digital zoom in for the trailer or an actual zoom in on the shot.

Wouldn't a zoom compress the image? It seems more like a tracking/dolly shot to me but I'm no expert...

On a side note, I'm loving how this has become the "cinematography thread"!

 

[Anita18]

Thanks everyone for the clarification. I just graduated high school and plan to go to community college before transferring to a good film college in California, so all of this stuff is pretty important. ****, what do I need to go to expensive film college for, when I have everybody on the SHH! boards.lol.

Pull a Nolan and don't go to film school - start making your own movies now.

Film school, like all art schools, are tremendously good for connections, but it's not like people look at your resume and immediately throw it away if you didn't graduate from a good film school. Your portfolio is way more important.

 

[xwolverine2]

I just count 8 teeth here. I don't think its been digitally enhanced.




- Ahahahaha!

i guess it is...

 

[Loneranger]

Only five more TDK-less Fridays! Woo Hoo!!!

 

[turtlefocker]

coolio

 

[james283126]

can someone plz post a pic of the joker with his hand on his hip, after he say's F***?