Corona and other diseases

[InCali]

In before the BLM protests were orchestrated by the liberal left to increase the numbers of Corona to make Trump look bad.

It wasn't the liberal left; it was the radical, left wing of the communist party. I personally orchestrated this from my command center.

 

[Schlosser85]

What is perplexing to me is that after 12 days of protests, there's been no real spike in cases nationally. Maybe the virus is weakening.

I am hoping against hope.

 

[Lilbaz]

I am hoping against hope.

I think new york should be ok. A large percentage of their population will have some form of immunity meaning it will slow any spread.

This article says it will be a while before we see the effects of the protests. But added to the opening up it probably wont be good.

20 states have seen increases in COVID-19 cases in the last five days - Poynter

 

[MadVillainy]

What is perplexing to me is that after 12 days of protests, there's been no real spike in cases nationally. Maybe the virus is weakening.

People probably aren't getting tested

 

[Lilbaz]

America Is Giving Up on the Pandemic

 

[squeekness]

America Is Giving Up on the Pandemic

"If we close our eyes it isn't real!"

 

[Teelie]

People can give up but I'm not. As many covidiots as I saw without masks in the store today there were a lot who still had them.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I get feeling ambiguous about the protests in regards to the pandemic.

People interacting in such close proximity will help spread the virus, and unfortunately at the end of the transmission line will be on some level some folk who will react badly and die.

But I also doubt that the protests or the riots will be what we can "blame" any large spikes or regional relapses. Sad to say, that was baked in already. I said a while back that Covid was going to be the background radiation of the world for some time. I got a lot of push back then. Now people are saying they think the million plus dead number is on the table.

It never was off the table.

The mitigation we put into place from the start had too many giant holes. The number of people protesting as impressive as it is likely pales in comparsion to all the people that were taking no precautions for Covid and were living their life as though there was no pandemic. The vast majority of the protesters (and because they want to hide their identity the looters as well...) are wearing masks and gloves. Still, with all those people around in such close proximity, add in things like tear gas and those who treat the wounded etc... Covid is gonna get passed on.

The nature of this virus combined with our society's reaction and failure in initial response meant that we were always going to deal with this in a way that guaranteed what we are going to go through for the forseeable future. Stretched out over the course of the next year and a half or so this is going to be a reality. Will the hospitals be overrun again, lockdowns and all that jazz? Maybe, but am guessing we will not as a planet be shutting down again anytime soon, nor will it warrant it. But there will be rolling regional lockdowns. People will still die but the medical system will be able to function. We will have to get used to the death toll which won't be quite the splash it was before but will not be insignificant either.


That said, I do not get the attitude that expected wide swaths of people to just continue to sit on their hands with yet another high profile killing of an African American that seems without any doubt to be a failure of the police to just NOT be *******s whose abuse of power leads directly to the death of a member of the public. There have been at least three of these murders, including the Floyd case, in the last month alone. I'm sorry that a revolutionary moment had to come while we are also dealing with a communicable disease, and one which ironically is hitting Latino and Black communities so hard. But what we have witnessed in front of our screens and for some people only a few feet away from themselves, is the revelation that from sea to shining sea, America has a problem with police corruption and abuse. No one was paying attention to the canary in the coal mine for so very long. Now the rest of the country can see and feel what it's like to be a person of color in the U.S.

People are scared of even looking at a cop the wrong way lest something violent happen to them. People are having to adjust their life to avoid coming into contact with law enforcement while doing nothing more nefarious than planning their commute to work. Parents are telling their kids they have to be careful in how they interact with cops, lest a gesture or words give police a pretext to bring them in.

For many folk, this is the first time any of them even had to come close to thinking about these kinds of things in their day to day life, much less also deal with the psychic/emotional weight and strain they can cause.

Well... Welcome to the reality of the lives of Black and Latino Americans. This has what has been served up to too many them for a very long time.

 

[Schlosser85]

People can give up but I'm not. As many covidiots as I saw without masks in the store today there were a lot who still had them.

Our customers are probably about 50/50.

 

[Lily Adler]

Our customers are probably about 50/50.

Do they ***** about how the Dems did this to tank the economy for Trump or how the media blew this out of proportion?

 

[Schlosser85]

Do they ***** about how the Dems did this to tank the economy for Trump or how the media blew this out of proportion?

When it started months ago some people were saying stuff like “it’s just flu”.

I haven’t heard anyone say anything like that in quite a while though.

I have had some (elderly, ironically) people complain about having to wear masks.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Just to show how and in what ways our crisis of leadership, crisis of law enforcement and incarceration and the crisis of the virus all dove tail together.

And the snapshot it creates doesn't look good for America.

 

[Lilbaz]

I get feeling ambiguous about the protests in regards to the pandemic.

People interacting in such close proximity will help spread the virus, and unfortunately at the end of the transmission line will be on some level some folk who will react badly and die.

But I also doubt that the protests or the riots will be what we can "blame" any large spikes or regional relapses. Sad to say, that was baked in already. I said a while back that Covid was going to be the background radiation of the world for some time. I got a lot of push back then. Now people are saying they think the million plus dead number is on the table.

It never was off the table.

The mitigation we put into place from the start had too many giant holes. The number of people protesting as impressive as it is likely pales in comparsion to all the people that were taking no precautions for Covid and were living their life as though there was no pandemic. The vast majority of the protesters (and because they want to hide their identity the looters as well...) are wearing masks and gloves. Still, with all those people around in such close proximity, add in things like tear gas and those who treat the wounded etc... Covid is gonna get passed on.

The nature of this virus combined with our society's reaction and failure in initial response meant that we were always going to deal with this in a way that guaranteed what we are going to go through for the forseeable future. Stretched out over the course of the next year and a half or so this is going to be a reality. Will the hospitals be overrun again, lockdowns and all that jazz? Maybe, but am guessing we will not as a planet be shutting down again anytime soon, nor will it warrant it. But there will be rolling regional lockdowns. People will still die but the medical system will be able to function. We will have to get used to the death toll which won't be quite the splash it was before but will not be insignificant either.


That said, I do not get the attitude that expected wide swaths of people to just continue to sit on their hands with yet another high profile killing of an African American that seems without any doubt to be a failure of the police to just NOT be *******s whose abuse of power leads directly to the death of a member of the public. There have been at least three of these murders, including the Floyd case, in the last month alone. I'm sorry that a revolutionary moment had to come while we are also dealing with a communicable disease, and one which ironically is hitting Latino and Black communities so hard. But what we have witnessed in front of our screens and for some people only a few feet away from themselves, is the revelation that from sea to shining sea, America has a problem with police corruption and abuse. No one was paying attention to the canary in the coal mine for so very long. Now the rest of the country can see and feel what it's like to be a person of color in the U.S.

People are scared of even looking at a cop the wrong way lest something violent happen to them. People are having to adjust their life to avoid coming into contact with law enforcement while doing nothing more nefarious than planning their commute to work. Parents are telling their kids they have to be careful in how they interact with cops, lest a gesture or words give police a pretext to bring them in.

For many folk, this is the first time any of them even had to come close to thinking about these kinds of things in their day to day life, much less also deal with the psychic/emotional weight and strain they can cause.

Well... Welcome to the reality of the lives of Black and Latino Americans. This has what has been served up to too many them for a very long time.

I'm not sure that a million deaths were always on the table. Countries have shown that if you can get the numbers low you can use test track and trace to keep them down. You wont eradicate the virus and may need to close a business, school or whatever everytime there is an outbreak but it would be fairly controlled. The us seems to have opened a bit early and people seem to have given up on social distancing. We'll see if this leads to a new peak in cases, or if you go more like sweden.

As i said i empathise with people who protested. Just wish their was a safer way to do it.

 

[dark_b]

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Covid-19 vaccine trial participants weigh in on early results

This woman was one of the first person in the world to take the COVID19 vaccine back in March.

 

[Morg]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ic-province-becomes-new-epicenter/2020/06/05/


Iran’s coronavirus cases surge again as strategic province becomes new epicenter

 

[Iceman]

NZ lifts Covid restrictions as virus cases hit zero

 

[Lilbaz]

UK daily virus deaths drop to pre-lockdown level

Sundays numbers, so will jump up tomorrow, but still good news.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Iceman]

Coronavirus cases in the U.K. drop further to 55 (daily). Looks like it is coming under some level of control at least.

 

[Iceman]

UK daily virus deaths drop to pre-lockdown level

Sundays numbers, so will jump up tomorrow, but still good news.

It’s good that we’ve had 2 days of double figures. Hopefully the jump isn’t too big for Monday’s number.

 

[Lilbaz]

It’s good that we’ve had 2 days of double figures. Hopefully the jump isn’t too big for Monday’s number.

Agree. It's less than last weekends numbers. New cases is the important number to tell if we are going in the right direction.

Edit - 1205 for today so that is still dropping aswell. Which means for the next few weeks the death rate should also drop. Hopefully it keeps going down with release of lock down measures and the protests.

 

[Lilbaz]

Sweden records first week with no excess mortality since pandemic struck

 

[Iceman]

Good to see some good news stories around the globe finally. I hope South America can get it under control soon.

 

[Zorro]

Coronavirus live updates: New York City starts reopening; New Zealand says it 'eliminated' the virus