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Corona and other diseases


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My apologies to Floridians like @Kahran Ramsus if I offended you, I mean no harm.
People will one day realise that leaders are responsible for the safety of you and your family which matters more when it’s at risk than owning anyone in particular.
 
You aren't born this ignorant in the 21st century.

This is active ignorance.

You have to work at being this obtuse and uninformed.
 
I didn’t think much could be dumber than anti-vaccine people, but these anti-maskers take the cake. Even with a mask requirement put into place in my city here in AZ, I’m still seeing almost zero masks on people. It’s depressing that people are too dumb and lazy for even self preservation, and that it’s everyone that’s going to deal with the ramifications.
 
This is very reasonable....But allow me to ask this key question which I hope everyone sees puts a wrinkle in the narrative that I feel is incredibly important.


When the Minneapolis PD started this by going HAM on the protesters weeks back... In the following time did we hear about any LEOs that took part quitting?

When those SWAT/ERT *******s marched into that suburban neighborhood told people who were already in their homes and obeying curfew to "stay inside" and then opened fire on those homes with riot weapons... Did we hear any of those LEOs quit?


When those officers arrested that African American CNN reporter and his crew who were following their orders yet leave a White reporter literally standing next to him, and this gets captured on camera... Did any cops from that PD quit?


When the president decided he needed a half assed photo op so he unleashed a horde of then faceless, nameless prison riot police upon protesters, using tear gas and batons to attack American citizens... Not one came out later to rebuke said actions and then quit.


In all the time that has passed since this began where is the story from any state, city or local municipality where a law enforcement officer says to the public "I was asked to participate in violent and corrupt actions perpetrated against American citizens for the sole purpose of thuggish intimidation. I refused."

I know that the Blue Wall is strong. I know it is difficult for cops who hold other cops and themselves to a higher standard. I know that a LEO saying such things may even be putting their life at risk saying and doing something like that.

All true.

Still... In this country of 330 million people, in all this time we have not heard the tale of the police officer who refused to beat down Americans and then rebuke that they were asked to do so.


Not once.

Across literally every single department.

Not once.

Not that I know of, no. I heard some speak out alittle but always playing both sides of the fence. Here's the thing though, we all know how deep seeded that Brotherhood mentality is within the Police force. If one of these guys were to do what you're saying, quit in protest of one or more of their "brothers", they would likely be blackballed by alot of other Departments and Precincts. And possibly have to move out of State to get another job in Law Enforcement, at best. In the middle of a Historical Global Pandemic and a economic crisis, that's a alot to ask of someone. Especially if they're the major bread winner or supporting a family with a Wife and Kids.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be some guys doing what you're asking, or even a group of them forming some sort of coalition, to further protect themselves, a safety in numbers thing, but that's a big risk given the nature of the Police force in this Country. Which is also part of the problem as well.
 
Even if the vaccine comes, this country will never be the same again. It’s change things... forever. There is no going back to normal again. At least not the old normal. Like the virus’s other victims, the old normal should be counted among the dead. The old normal of shaking hands, and not washing our hands repeatedly is dead and gone. Now only a new normal will persists.


God help us all.
 
Even if the vaccine comes, this country will never be the same again. It’s change things... forever. There is no going back to normal again. At least not the old normal. Like the virus’s other victims, the old normal should be counted among the dead. The old normal of shaking hands, and not washing our hands repeatedly is dead and gone. Now only a new normal will persists.


God help us all.

Eh... For sure in the immediate future there's tons of short term radical changes. And in terms of some sectors of societyy this has accelerated the progression on a number of fronts.

But the Spanish Flu of 1918-1920 was just as big a disruption, and it was a far deadlier affair.

And when it was all said and done... America forgot about it. It was stuffed down the memory hole.


By the time it abated in 1920, the Spanish flu had killed 675,000 Americans and left hundreds of thousands of children orphaned. Not only did more Americans die of the Spanish flu than in World War I, more died than in all the wars of the 20th century combined. Globally, the pandemic infected a third of the planet’s population and killed an estimated 50 million people.

Yet for all the lives lost and changed forever, the Spanish flu quickly faded from public consciousness. “It fell into this black hole of history,” Kenneth C. Davis, author of “More Deadly Than War: The Hidden History of the Spanish Flu and the First World War.” says. “Impacted families never seemed to talk much about it, perhaps because it was so terrible that no one wanted to think about it again. That’s the way the country also dealt with it.”


This event will leave a mark on all the adults and some of the kids who will live through it. But for the most part I don't see a long term disruption of society that lasts. Sure, we may see perhaps some entire industry like movie theaters collapse... Or not.

I do think that this generation will have a fair number of folk for whom this does leave an imprint and it will inform them until the day they die. I can see many of us as people in our 60's and 70's doing certain things that will make the young'ns curious.

"How come grandma always washes her hands after I play with her mommy? Does she think I'm dirty?"

"Lemme tell you about the years 2019 to 2021 kid..."

For those that grew up with grandparents who were young during the Great Depression there's all kinds of stuff they saw that perplexed them but which were behaviors ingrained during a trying time for the nation.

That's gonna be us too.
 
Eh... For sure in the immediate future there's tons of short term radical changes. And in terms of some sectors of societyy this has accelerated the progression on a number of fronts.

But the Spanish Flu of 1918-1920 was just as big a disruption, and it was a far deadlier affair.

And when it was all said and done... America forgot about it. It was stuffed down the memory hole.


By the time it abated in 1920, the Spanish flu had killed 675,000 Americans and left hundreds of thousands of children orphaned. Not only did more Americans die of the Spanish flu than in World War I, more died than in all the wars of the 20th century combined. Globally, the pandemic infected a third of the planet’s population and killed an estimated 50 million people.

Yet for all the lives lost and changed forever, the Spanish flu quickly faded from public consciousness. “It fell into this black hole of history,” Kenneth C. Davis, author of “More Deadly Than War: The Hidden History of the Spanish Flu and the First World War.” says. “Impacted families never seemed to talk much about it, perhaps because it was so terrible that no one wanted to think about it again. That’s the way the country also dealt with it.”


This event will leave a mark on all the adults and some of the kids who will live through it. But for the most part I don't see a long term disruption of society that lasts. Sure, we may see perhaps some entire industry like movie theaters collapse... Or not.

I do think that this generation will have a fair number of folk for whom this does leave an imprint and it will inform them until the day they die. I can see many of us as people in our 60's and 70's doing certain things that will make the young'ns curious.

"How come grandma always washes her hands after I play with her mommy? Does she think I'm dirty?"

"Lemme tell you about the years 2019 to 2021 kid..."

For those that grew up with grandparents who were young during the Great Depression there's all kinds of stuff they saw that perplexed them but which were behaviors ingrained during a trying time for the nation.

That's gonna be us too.

Me and my ex were talking about how we’re gonna be neurotic obsessive clean freaks after this.
 
Eh... For sure in the immediate future there's tons of short term radical changes. And in terms of some sectors of societyy this has accelerated the progression on a number of fronts.

But the Spanish Flu of 1918-1920 was just as big a disruption, and it was a far deadlier affair.

And when it was all said and done... America forgot about it. It was stuffed down the memory hole.


By the time it abated in 1920, the Spanish flu had killed 675,000 Americans and left hundreds of thousands of children orphaned. Not only did more Americans die of the Spanish flu than in World War I, more died than in all the wars of the 20th century combined. Globally, the pandemic infected a third of the planet’s population and killed an estimated 50 million people.

Yet for all the lives lost and changed forever, the Spanish flu quickly faded from public consciousness. “It fell into this black hole of history,” Kenneth C. Davis, author of “More Deadly Than War: The Hidden History of the Spanish Flu and the First World War.” says. “Impacted families never seemed to talk much about it, perhaps because it was so terrible that no one wanted to think about it again. That’s the way the country also dealt with it.”


This event will leave a mark on all the adults and some of the kids who will live through it. But for the most part I don't see a long term disruption of society that lasts. Sure, we may see perhaps some entire industry like movie theaters collapse... Or not.

I do think that this generation will have a fair number of folk for whom this does leave an imprint and it will inform them until the day they die. I can see many of us as people in our 60's and 70's doing certain things that will make the young'ns curious.

"How come grandma always washes her hands after I play with her mommy? Does she think I'm dirty?"

"Lemme tell you about the years 2019 to 2021 kid..."

For those that grew up with grandparents who were young during the Great Depression there's all kinds of stuff they saw that perplexed them but which were behaviors ingrained during a trying time for the nation.

That's gonna be us too.
Was the government’s handling of that pandemic better than what we have? Feels like it could get worse at this rate. I may have came off a bit histrionic as your post is more level-headed, but I dunno at the very least I think the damage will be felt for a long time, imo. But yeah, I think things we return back to ‘normal’ but it will be a new normal for awhile. I’ve never experienced anything like this before, and I’m kind of shaken up.
 
Was the government’s handling of that pandemic better than what we have? Feels like it could get worse at this rate. I may have came off a bit histrionic as your post is more level-headed, but I dunno at the very least I think the damage will be felt for a long time, imo. But yeah, I think things we return back to ‘normal’ but it will be a new normal for awhile. I’ve never experienced anything like this before, and I’m kind of shaken up.


Not to let the current powers that be off the hook, ditto some very intransigent corners of the populace but... It is surprising how similar the scenarios play out. Up to and including, yes, Anti-Mask Leagues, premature re-opening, scapegoating foreigners and non-White citizens... Yeah, that all happened 102 years ago.

It forced a lot of adapation to the reality of living with a widely spread disease.

Pictures from the "Spanish Flu" pandemic that circled the globe from 1918-1920.


Men gargling with salt and water at Camp Dix in New Jersey as a preventive measure against the influenza epidemic of influenza.

The National Archives

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The scenes in Philadelphia appeared to be straight out of the plague-infested Middle Ages. Throughout the day and night, horse-drawn wagons kept a constant parade through the streets of Philadelphia as priests joined the police in collecting corpses draped in sackcloths and blood-stained sheets that were left on porches and sidewalks. The bodies were piled on top of each other in the wagons with limbs protruding from underneath the sheets. The parents of one small boy who succumbed to the flu begged the authorities to allow him the dignity of being buried in a wooden box that had been used to ship macaroni instead of wrapping him a sheet and having him taken away in a patrol wagon.

Over 11,000 Philadelphia residents died in October 1918, including 759 on the worst day of the outbreak. Drivers of open carts kept a near-constant vigil circling streets while hollering, “Bring out your dead!” They then deposited the collected corpses in mass graves excavated by steam shovels.

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Policemen in Seattle, Washington wearing masks to prevent catching the flu.

The National Archives

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A demonstration at the Red Cross Emergency Ambulance Station in Washington, D.C., during the influenza pandemic of 1918.

(Library of Congress)

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A boxing match on the USS Siboney - with many spectators wearing protective masks.

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Letter carrier in New York wearing mask for protection against influenza. New York City, October 16, 1918.

National Archives

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Doctors and nurses assembled to treat those infected in Sydney, Australia, 1919.

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Hospital Beds in Great Hall During Influenza Pandemic, Melbourne Exhibition Building, Carlton, Victoria, circa 1919.

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https://forums.superherohype.com/threads/from-out-of-the-past-the-history-in-pictures-thread.541167/page-137#post-38209154
 
Some more images from the Spanish Flu Epidemic for more historical perspective:

U.S. Army 39th regiment wear masks in Seattle on their way to France.

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A barber provides services to clients in 1919 at University of California, Berkeley.

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Soldiers from the US Army during the 1918 Influenza.

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An open-air court proceeding being held in 1918 San Francisco.

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A group of nurses during the 1918 Influenza.

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An emergency hospital is set up to care for patients in Brookline, Massachusetts in October of 1918.

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Workers from the American Red Cross tend to patients in a makeshift hospital set up in the Oakland Municipal Auditorium in 1918.

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School girls in Japan wear masks to prevent the spread of Spanish Influenza.

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Workers from the American Red Cross make a house call to a family that had fallen ill with the Spanish Influenza.

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When Cornyn and Cruz think you made a mistake... Well you made a damn mistake.
 

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