Corona and other diseases

[DarthSkywalker]

On that note, I had to venture outside my apartment briefly to go to Costco for toilet paper the other day, and I was REALLY impressed with their operation they had going there. They were controlling store numbers so it wouldn’t get too crowded inside, which means there was a line to get in the store (with a whiteboard keeping track of what they were out of stock of, so nobody wasted their time in line), but they had people making sure everyone in line stayed 6ft apart. They were individually sanitizing/disinfecting each shopping cart before passing them off to the guests to go in, they had marks on the floor in the checkout area for where to stand in order to keep a safe distance, and all their employees were wearing masks/gloves. First business/store I’ve been to here that actually seemed to be taking this seriously.

My brother has been cooking a lot since this started. He finally wanted a day off, so we got pizza the other night from Dominos. They had one person working there, and you'd have to wait a distance from them and give your name. Only one costumer in the store at a time. When the pizza was done, they laid it on the table, walked away and then you could pick it up. Also you had to pre-pay online. I was rather impressed really.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There could be free vaccines for the coronavirus for everyone in the world but I bet there would be some being like "nah I don't need it" or I don't believe in that vaccine" then go out living their lives among the public

It would be "inconvenient" to get it. See it every year with the flu shot.

 

[C. Lee]

Social distancing and closing things works.

 

[B]

On that note, I had to venture outside my apartment briefly to go to Costco for toilet paper the other day, and I was REALLY impressed with their operation they had going there. They were controlling store numbers so it wouldn’t get too crowded inside, which means there was a line to get in the store (with a whiteboard keeping track of what they were out of stock of, so nobody wasted their time in line), but they had people making sure everyone in line stayed 6ft apart. They were individually sanitizing/disinfecting each shopping cart before passing them off to the guests to go in, they had marks on the floor in the checkout area for where to stand in order to keep a safe distance, and all their employees were wearing masks/gloves. First business/store I’ve been to here that actually seemed to be taking this seriously.

Exactly, well thought out measures put in place to not only protect their staff, but protect the customers as well. So far this week I've only been to the 1 small sized local 'supermarket' a couple of times to get odd things like bread, milk etc & they've a similar sounding setup. I'll probably venture into the larger supermarket nearer the end of the week & I hope they've similar precautions in place.

 

[Lilbaz]

On another really unsettling note. I have been watching a lot of the British coverage of this, and how often they talk about the stage they are in compared to other countries, makes me realize just how okay these people are with others dying. I knew that applied to Trump and a lot of Republicans. I have been seeing it for years. But the way the UK government seems to dismiss locking things down properly before things get worse, is basically, "well it isn't to Italy levels of disaster yet", all while sounding like they completely expect it to get there, and then they will change their strategy. The entire point is to stop it from getting there. France gets this. Germany gets this. South Korea gets this. What in the hell is wrong with the US and UK governments?

It's about not overwhelming the nhs. We are not trying to stop the virus anymore (as unless the whole world can do it it will come back). So we want it to peak in the summer, out of flu season so the nhs is better able to cope with the number of cases.
We can see where we are in relation to other countries. So know when to apply the breaks more.
It's a risky strategy because if you apply the breaks too late, your health system is overrun.

 

[StarLord]

My brother has been cooking a lot since this started. He finally wanted a day off, so we got pizza the other night from Dominos. They had one person working there, and you'd have to wait a distance from them and give your name. Only one costumer in the store at a time. When the pizza was done, they laid it on the table, walked away and then you could pick it up. Also you had to pre-pay online. I was rather impressed really.

They are still doing in store collections?

Our UK ones are strictly delivery only and have to be contact free i.e they knock on your door and leave it at the doorstep.

 

[Iceman]

Britain's Prince Charles tests positive for coronavirus

I’m sure he’ll get good care but he’s 71. I don’t want the Queen to get it.

 

[kvz5]

On that note, I had to venture outside my apartment briefly to go to Costco for toilet paper the other day, and I was REALLY impressed with their operation they had going there. They were controlling store numbers so it wouldn’t get too crowded inside, which means there was a line to get in the store (with a whiteboard keeping track of what they were out of stock of, so nobody wasted their time in line), but they had people making sure everyone in line stayed 6ft apart. They were individually sanitizing/disinfecting each shopping cart before passing them off to the guests to go in, they had marks on the floor in the checkout area for where to stand in order to keep a safe distance, and all their employees were wearing masks/gloves. First business/store I’ve been to here that actually seemed to be taking this seriously.

This is good news as I need to go to Costco soon. Is the fast food still open? I’m craving their pizza. The last time I was there was about a month back so things were more relaxed but it was the start of the toilet paper hoarding.

 

[B]

Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19

 

[Snow Queen]

This is good news as I need to go to Costco soon. Is the fast food still open? I’m craving their pizza. The last time I was there was about a month back so things were more relaxed but it was the start of the toilet paper hoarding.

I went to the one here the other day, not sure how it is where you are but they've stopped serving everything but hot dogs here.

 

[B]

Coronavirus: 'Game changer' COVID-19 tests could be available in days, MPs told

 

[flickchick85]

This is good news as I need to go to Costco soon. Is the fast food still open? I’m craving their pizza. The last time I was there was about a month back so things were more relaxed but it was the start of the toilet paper hoarding.

The dining area was closed, but it looked like you could still get takeout. At least, they still had people back there making stuff.

 

[Iceman]

Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19

If this isn’t a one off there could be trouble ahead.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They are still doing in store collections?

Our UK ones are strictly delivery only and have to be contact free i.e they knock on your door and leave it at the doorstep.

Yep. I am not even sure if they are doing deliveries out here still.

 

[kvz5]

The dining area was closed, but it looked like you could still get takeout. At least, they still had people back there making stuff.

Awesome!

I went to the one here the other day, not sure how it is where you are but they've stopped serving everything but hot dogs here.

Noooo... I’ll report back once I get the energy to go out.

 

[kvz5]

Imagine being known forever as the idiot who said this and then got the virus. I hate that I’m laughing but I am...

 

[C. Lee]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's about not overwhelming the nhs. We are not trying to stop the virus anymore (as unless the whole world can do it it will come back). So we want it to peak in the summer, out of flu season so the nhs is better able to cope with the number of cases.
We can see where we are in relation to other countries. So know when to apply the breaks more.
It's a risky strategy because if you apply the breaks too late, your health system is overrun.

I am confused. Would it not help the NHS more to start the lockdown as early as possible? It would help curb the peak in terms of cases, death and length now, during flu season. So what benefit is there to waiting?

 

[kvz5]

A+ for creativity:

City in the Philippines plays 'The Purge' announcement to enforce coronavirus curfew

 

[Lilbaz]

I am confused. Would it not help the NHS more to start the lockdown as early as possible? It would help curb the peak in terms of cases, death and length now, during flu season. So what benefit is there to waiting?

How long do you lockdown for? A vaccine is over a year away (if it's possible) then how long to produce enough to vaccinate the whole world?
People might be happy for social isolation now but how will they feel in 6 months? A year? 2 years? What would it do to the economy? Peoples mental health? Relationships?

The uk doesn't think people can do it. So when cases are getting to the point to overwhelm the nhs they slam the breaks. When cases come down they ease off. When cases rise to the point the nhs is overrun they apply the breaks. Rinse and repeat.
This will be done till we either have a vaccine or have herd immunity (60% of the population have had the disease).

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How long do you lockdown for? A vaccine is over a year away (if it's possible) then how long to produce enough to vaccinate the whole world?
People might be happy for social isolation now but how will they feel in 6 months? A year? 2 years? What would it do to the economy? Peoples mental health? Relationships?

The uk doesn't think people can do it. So when cases are getting to the point to overwhelm the nhs they slam the breaks. When cases come down they ease off. When cases rise to the point the nhs is overrun they apply the breaks. Rinse and repeat.
This will be done till we either have a vaccine or have herd immunity (60% of the population have had the disease).

None of this explains why they waited, which has caused this current peak to be much higher then it ever had to be. You start early enough, so that thousand don't die. Also that doesn't mean you ever had to downplay it. Boris has to keep on walking back things he said because much like Trump, he was making a bit of a mockery out of a worldwide health crisis.

What prevented Boris and his government from:
1. Getting more supplies and distributing them starting in January?
2. From implementing social distancing guidelines in January?
3. Screening and testing those coming into the country since January?
4. Preparing former NHS workers to come back in January?

 

[Sithborg]

If this isn’t a one off there could be trouble ahead.

I mean, the data out of Europe we have been getting does show that young adults are not immune. And even while they are more likely to survive, there is still a small chance of dying. Pneumonia can be rough, even for healthy people.

 

[Dark Raven]

Man Who Said, ‘If I Get Corona, I Get Corona,’ Apologizes

 

[Lily Adler]

Don't tell me what to do the Ancient One let's me do what I want! Even ice cream after 9pm.

 

[Dark Raven]

Italian nurse, 34, kills herself after testing positive for coronavirus | Daily Mail Online