Could Bruce Wayne's transformation into Batman be considered...

[King Ruler]

something supernatural? I mean do you think it could possible that through all of Bruce's training and traveling, and him getting over his fear of bats and basically beocming one with them, that is has supernatural evolved him into the Batman?

I started thinking about this after doing some reading on "The Punisher" and the "Born" series. Wikipedia desribes that mini as a possible psycological and supernatural change for Frank, due to that little voice in his head. Do you think the same could go for Bruce. I mean, this would explain why it seems that he's incrediblely skilled at almost everything from hand-to-hand and detective skills, as well as vanishing acts. Kinda like how Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name can be considered supernatural because of his above human skill with a weapon or his appearance in "Pale Rider" (ya know, with the whole gun shot wounds and such).

What are your thoughts?

 

[Eros]

I don't understand what your getting at, Bruce trained for some years, came back home, and needed away to scare criminals, so he became Batman. Plus its a comic book and all.

 

[The Leaguer]

No.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

No.

Simple,Direct and to the point...Bravo!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mee]

I think Frank Miller tries to give that vibe sometimes, with Batman talking to the bat in the cave. "You found me, I became you, blah blah blah"

But no. Batman isn't supernatural.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I think Frank Miller tries to give that vibe sometimes, with Batman talking to the bat in the cave. "You found me, I became you, blah blah blah"

But no. Batman isn't supernatural.

I never got that impresion....what I got from those writing was that frank was trying to say is that in his own way Batman is as crazy as the nuts he goes up aganist.

 

[King Ruler]

Hmmm, well my opinion still stands, and this kinda adds to my theory.

 

[sethcohen]

as leaguer would tell you, your opinion is wrong.

 

[fifthfiend]

If I ever see Batman: The Other, I am going to murder somebody.

 

[The Question]

Truthfully, one could see Bruce's becoming Batman as a spiritual transformation. But I don't think he has supernatural powers, if that's what you're saying. Though, honestly, I wouldn't mind that at all. It would actually explain alot.

 

[King Ruler]

as leaguer would tell you, your opinion is wrong.

....Since when were opinions wrong?

And The Question, yeah that's how I feel too. I never thought he had supernatural powers, but just that maybe he's become a supernatural being over the years.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I think Frank Miller tries to give that vibe sometimes, with Batman talking to the bat in the cave. "You found me, I became you, blah blah blah"

But no. Batman isn't supernatural.

I don't think it was really "supernatual," in that sense. It's more on a spiritual and inspirational level. This little kid was scared and awe-inspired by this huge bat in a cave under his feet, and when his parents are ripped away from him, he uses the scary vision of the bat to pick up the pieces and fight so that other people won't have to feel the same pain.

Truthfully, one could see Bruce's becoming Batman as a spiritual transformation. But I don't think he has supernatural powers, if that's what you're saying. Though, honestly, I wouldn't mind that at all. It would actually explain alot.

I get what you mean there, Q. I'd say it's more of a spiritual, inspirational, and psychological transformation. His mind is essentially split in half, much like skitzopherenia--one half is the brooding, orphaned child that is Bruce Wayne, and the angry, violent demon that is The Batman. That's how I always looked at it, anyway.

 

[The Question]

I get what you mean there, Q. I'd say it's more of a spiritual, inspirational, and psychological transformation. His mind is essentially split in half, much like skitzopherenia--one half is the brooding, orphaned child that is Bruce Wayne, and the angry, violent demon that is The Batman. That's how I always looked at it, anyway.

That's not skitzopherenia. That's dissasociative identity disorder.

 

[Artistsean]

Batman isn't intended to have any powers at all, not even a mystical power protecting him.
Batman is such an intersting character because he is just a man, and I think that was what was intended since day one.
DC made Superman, a alien with unlimited powers. He was successful, so where do they go from there. Make another superhero who is the oposite.

I am also not sure if he has two personalities, or delusional, or anything like that really. I think Bruce is actually Batman, and the Bruce Wayne the public sees is an act. I think his becoming the Batman was him pushing himself, and when he finally had the idea of "The Batman" it was just an apifanny, it all clicked together. I think without the Batman identity Bruce would still be the way he is now, but with a different identity or perhaps no super identity at all, just Bruce the vigilantee.
But I do think Bruce is sort of using the Batman mission to distract him from dealing with his parents death, or maybe from moving on.

If that was changed it would sort of ruin Batman, for me anyway.

But it would be an intersting Elseworlds.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

That's not skitzopherenia. That's dissasociative identity disorder.

I just went through Hell/school and I'm half-asleep. I don't give a f**k if it's dissasociative idenity disorder or skitzophernia or syphillis at this point.

 

[The Question]

Batman isn't intended to have any powers at all, not even a mystical power protecting him.
Batman is such an intersting character because he is just a man, and I think that was what was intended since day one.
DC made Superman, a alien with unlimited powers. He was successful, so where do they go from there. Make another superhero who is the oposite.

The problem that I have is that Batman is often times not written that way. He's often written as preforming feats that are most certainly superhuman. And I don't see the point of having a character who's just a normal human if he isn't written that way. Way I see it, if they're going to write him preforming superhuman feats, then they should just say he's a meta. Which is why I'd be fine if they said he had supernatural powers. Wouldn't really change anything these days.

 

[Artistsean]

I agree, sometimes he is written way to powerful. but I guess that calling him a human and having him do the stuff he does can make his feets that more amazing.
Personally I like a hero to be a little weak, makes it more interesting. I like when Batman seems more human and imperfect. And not always prepared for everything.

 

[The Question]

EDIT: Oops.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

The problem that I have is that Batman is often times not written that way. He's often written as preforming feats that are most certainly superhuman. And I don't see the point of having a character who's just a normal human if he isn't written that way. Way I see it, if they're going to write him preforming superhuman feats, then they should just say he's a meta. Which is why I'd be fine if they said he had supernatural powers. Wouldn't really change anything these days.

What has Batman ever really done that could be considered superhuman?

 

[The Question]

What has Batman ever really done that could be considered superhuman?

The list is fairly expansive. Alot of the stuff he's done with the League in the past couple of years are good examples.