Could they have made a 5th film?

[Chris Wallace]

I sometimes wonder about that. Was the damage truly irreparable? Like maybe they could've sent Dick & Barbara off to college, focused on Batman being Batman & just acted like the camp & colors & bright lights just never happened?

 

[El Payaso]

Damage WAS irreparable at the time. B&R was one of the worst movies ever done in or out of the genre.

It was really a miracle they could make Batman Begins and do so well with it.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Well, there was an 8-year gap. If that's not enough time for people to get the bad taste out of their mouths, what is?

 

[SuperFerret]

Aside from the casting of Alfred was there anything else that displayed a connection in continuity from one director to another?

 

[Chris Wallace]

The references to events in the previous films, & the same Gordon. But that really has no bearing on my question.

 

[El Payaso]

Well, there was an 8-year gap. If that's not enough time for people to get the bad taste out of their mouths, what is?

They still thought BB was B89's prequel. And they believed it for so much time after BB's release.

 

[BatmanForNever]

Go watch Batman & Robin again, it was impossible to bring it back to were it was.

I regard ever Batfilm with reverence except that one, which I don't even consider a Bat film.

 

[SuperFerret]

The references to events in the previous films, & the same Gordon. But that really has no bearing on my question.

All I'm stating is that a sequel could've been made that disregards what had happened in the previous movies, especially if made 8 years later, and only the fanboys would care.

 

[JackN]

If direceted by Joel Schummacher this would be it

 

[The Guard]

It wouldn't have been impossible to bring it back. The story would just have to move back in the direction of FOREVER, and get darker, and have story reasons for doing so.

 

[Catman]

Damage WAS irreparable at the time.

Not really. Look at the James Bond franchise. They've managed to survive the bad movies. They could have released a Batman 5 in 1999 or 2000 that was good and had some cool trailers and would have had another hit.

Batman & Robin grossed $107.3 million and was the year's 12th highest grossing movie. So, it didn't do THAT bad. Yes, it did bad compared to the other Batman movies but it didn't do that bad itself.

A fifth installment could have been pulled off.

 

[BatmanForNever]

Not really. Look at the James Bond franchise. They've managed to survive the bad movies. They could have released a Batman 5 in 1999 or 2000 that was good and had some cool trailers and would have had another hit.

Batman & Robin grossed $107.3 million and was the year's 12th highest grossing movie. So, it didn't do THAT bad. Yes, it did bad compared to the other Batman movies but it didn't do that bad itself.

A fifth installment could have been pulled off.

Batman & Robin was 1000000000 times worst than any of the bad James Bond films. People went into it expecting greatness, just like the Phantom Menace, we spent are money and the movie sucked. A bad film can make money due to the hype machine. It was Batman and Forever preformed well, obviously word got around, and people found it sucked.

They could have not released a 5th film, it was dead in the water. Your not looking at the bigger picture here, the film was terrible, downright awful, like so awful that everyone regards it as a joke. Go watch it again, and tell me a 5th Batman could have been made. If you do, your lying.

 

[SuperFerret]

Batman & Robin was 1000000000 times worst than any of the bad James Bond films. People went into it expecting greatness, just like the Phantom Menace, we spent are money and the movie sucked. A bad film can make money due to the hype machine. It was Batman and Forever preformed well, obviously word got around, and people found it sucked.

They could have not released a 5th film, it was dead in the water. Your not looking at the bigger picture here, the film was terrible, downright awful, like so awful that everyone regards it as a joke. Go watch it again, and tell me a 5th Batman could have been made. If you do, your lying.

Define "everyone". Only the fanboys think that much about B&R. It went in and out of the public consciousness quickly and a few years later, people stopped caring.

 

[El Payaso]

Define "everyone". Only the fanboys think that much about B&R. It went in and out of the public consciousness quickly and a few years later, people stopped caring.

Well, that happens with bad jokes.

For batfans it was more serious than that.

I guess they could have tried a fifth one, but look what happened after Ang Lee's Hulk - a movie that's not remotely as bad as B&R was (in fact I think Lee's Hulk is quite good) but was not well-received - they waited 5 years to release a reboot and it didn't work at the BO either.

 

[The Guard]

Someone's going to have to show me this mathematical formula where BATMAN 5 would not have made any money.

There were Batman 5 rumors for several years after BATMAN & ROBIN. The public followed many of them, and I don't recall people screaming "No more Batman films!" I recall people wanting better ones. Ultimately, Joel Schumacher lost interest, and WB decided to move in another direction, which took several years to come to fruition.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

If direceted by Joel Schummacher this would be it

lol, i love madtv.

 

[Catman]

the film was terrible, downright awful, like so awful that everyone regards it as a joke.

Fanboys were the ONLY ones who hated the movie. Everyone else simply did not like it. There's a difference between hating something and simply not liking it.

There were Batman 5 rumors for several years after BATMAN & ROBIN. The public followed many of them, and I don't recall people screaming "No more Batman films!" I recall people wanting better ones.

Yeah, dude. We were here for those projects and that's what I recall as well.

 

[Cain]

The right script + the right director could revive any fledgling franchise. It wouldn't have been impossible but I'm happy with what we got instead.

 

[El Payaso]

Someone's going to have to show me this mathematical formula where BATMAN 5 would not have made any money.

Someone's gotta how you this is an opinion thread not maths.

 

[Anubis]

Get the hell outta here with your anti-reboot bull CW.

 

[ChocheTheHero]

It´s coming... June 20th...

 

[Anubis]

Ugh, visions of bat-nipples dancing in my head.

 

[Chris Wallace]

They still thought BB was B89's prequel. And they believed it for so much time after BB's release.

True, a lot of people did think that. Though I fail to see how anyone could have come out of the theater with that impression. The Waynes were killed coming out of an opera, not a movie. We saw Joe Chill die. So he clearly doesn't go on to become the Joker. And how could Gordon be telling Batman about the Joker, who at this point is little more than a two-bit thug, if Batman created the Joke & knew him to be a mob lieutenant?

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

It´s coming... June 20th...

A) NO...just.....no...
B) That's Elijah Wood..

 

[Chris Wallace]

All I'm stating is that a sequel could've been made that disregards what had happened in the previous movies, especially if made 8 years later, and only the fanboys would care.

I get you. I do think it would've been possible. And if they did it right, from concept to marketing, they wouldn't have had to wait 8 years.