Critics' Reviews: Discussion

[xwolverine2]

if it manages to entertain nicely..then yeah.. its a good movie.

period.

 

[Deaths Head II]

The general public don't just like crappy comedies.

But the fact they do like crappy comedies makes me rather not have my standards be that low.

if it manages to entertain nicely..then yeah.. its a good movie.

period.

People can be entertained by a Uwe Boll movie. I can. It doesn't mean they're good movies.

 

[Electrix]

Damn you fanboys for wanting better movies

X-Men 3 has 7/10 on IMDB. The general public liked it and will probably like Wolverine. When you call for 'better movies' you are in a minority.

 

[Electrix]

But the fact they do like crappy comedies makes me rather not have my standards be that low.

Without the general public and their 'low standards' we wouldn't have the comic book movies we have today.

And just because fanboys aren't happy with it doesn't make it a bad movie.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Without the general public and their 'low standards' we wouldn't have the comic book movies we have today.

True, but that isn't a good reason for me to want my tastes to become similar to theirs.

 

[danoyse]

I heard he finally snapped shortly after that report came out that someone who saw the final film said it was in fact scene for scene with the leaked version. Started calling people morons who didn't like the movie.

I just hate it when Mods delete the evidence, would have been nice to see, mainly as evidence of what you can or can't say. Mainly because infractions differ from Mod to Mod and I've been given an infraction or two that I know I wouldn't have gotten in other boards on the Hype from different Mods. They should make it universal and not up to the different sensitivites of each individual Mod.

OK, let's stop the McCabe rumors right here.

McCabe was given multiple infractions and a probation for his attitude towards others on this forum in his time here. He was warned that he would be permanently banned if he didn't stop.

Yesterday morning he received yet another infraction - before the AICN story was reported - and we decided enough was enough and he was banned. He barely had a chance to respond to anyone regarding the AICN story because it was posted around the same time his account was banned.

None of his posts were deleted concerning the matter. He was gone before he could really respond to any of it. Consider it a pre-emptive strike.

I haven't even heard from him since the banning (which is odd, because if you think he was bad on here, you should have seen the PMs he sent me after his infractions), and I really think that AICN report sent him into hiding.

So he's gone, let's let him fade into obscurity now.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Mainly because infractions differ from Mod to Mod and I've been given an infraction or two that I know I wouldn't have gotten in other boards on the Hype from different Mods. They should make it universal and not up to the different sensitivites of each individual Mod.

Tell me about it. I have an infraction for HOMOPHOBIC SLUR. And I am gay.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

(which is odd, because if you think he was bad on here, you should have seen the PMs he sent me after his infractions)

So he's gone, let's let him fade into obscurity now.

Oboy, atta tease! You did that on purpose, right?
Now we all want to know about the secret crazy PMs! t:

 

[night0205]

He was probably just asking her out, not knowing she was a moderator...oh the truth about being banned is revealed...infractions.

danoyse do you know when the interviews are?

 

[Timstuff]

X-Men 3 has 7/10 on IMDB. The general public liked it and will probably like Wolverine. When you call for 'better movies' you are in a minority.

Answer me this: what advantage is there for Fox to make bad movies? The Dark Knight is amongst the best movies ever made, and it made over a billion dollars. Wolverine will be lucky to have a strong opening weekend though, and once Star Trek is out people are going to forget about it. Fox has yet to prove why their business model is superior to that of the other studios. Their movies get poor reviews, and they make less money overall. What is the advantage of doing business this way? When you make bad movies, there's a good chance that no-one will win except the studio's competitors.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Answer me this: what advantage is there for Fox to make bad movies?

They don't KNOW that their movies are bad.

I think.

 

[night0205]

We don't know that wolverine is a bad movie... In fact i'm pretty sure it's a good movie. Not as good as Dark Knight perhaps but good fun. Why can't we just all be friends?

Yeah serously, Fox doesn't know a good movie from tom rothman's lies.

 

[Electrix]

Answer me this: what advantage is there for Fox to make bad movies? The Dark Knight is amongst the best movies ever made, and it made over a billion dollars. Wolverine will be lucky to have a strong opening weekend though, and once Star Trek is out people are going to forget about it. Fox has yet to prove why their business model is superior to that of the other studios. Their movies get poor reviews, and they make less money overall. What is the advantage of doing business this way? When you make bad movies, there's a good chance that no-one will win except the studio's competitors.

Fox don't set out to make bad movies. They set out to make money by making the most commercial movies possible. I'll agree that stuff such as Meet Dave isn't to my taste, but they do have hits and they do make good movies now and again. Just because fanboys aren't happy with an unfinished version of a movie doesn't make it bad.

And i'll repost what I posted elsewhere, Wolverine doesn't need luck to have a good weekend:

http://screenrant.com/wolverine-outs...ales-rob-6939/

MovieTickets.com is reporting that “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” is currently outpacing ticket sales for “Iron Man” 3-to-1 at the same point in the sales cycle (nine days prior to the film’s release). Both films boast release dates during the first weekend in May during the last two years. “X-Men” releases Friday, May 1, 2009. “Iron Man” released in 2008 on Friday, May 2.”

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/...+Internet+leak

A tracking report containing consumer research statistics shows a high "wanna see" rating for the film, which is said to be the No. 1 choice for young men and guys aged 31 and older. Those two demographics are key to boosting the first-weekend numbers for a male-targeted superhero franchise film like Wolverine. This is quite a dramatic turnaround for a movie that was hit with a crisis scenario two weeks ago, when a full-length, unfinished copy of the movie was uploaded onto the Internet and subsequently downloaded by more than 100,000 viewers free of charge. That could have translated into a lot of lost ticket sales, and, indeed, some industry observers predicted the effects could be catastrophic for the big summer tentpole. But this research seems to contradict that line of thinking and support those who wondered aloud whether the leak might actually turn out to be a positive development for the X-Men spin-off by generating heaps of free publicity.

http://torrentfreak.com/x-men-leak-d...-times-090406/

Interestingly, most people think that the leak will actually do the movie good, as a poll among our readers indicates that 40% would be more excited to see it in the movie theater or on DVD, even if they had downloaded it. Only 6% of the respondents believe that the leak will be detrimental to the film’s success.

 

[chaseter]

X-Men 3 has 7/10 on IMDB. The general public liked it and will probably like Wolverine. When you call for 'better movies' you are in a minority.

How am I in the minority? X-Men 3 got a 50 something on RT...what does that mean? A 7/10 on IMDB is a C. Are you happy with C grade movies Do you just love C grade cinema? I don't care what the general public likes as I have already listed many movies that are utter garbage that the general audience eats up. You are in the minority on here that think this movie is teh awesome.

How is it a bad thing that I want better films for the heroes that I grew up with and love? How is that a bad thing? How is not settling for mediocrity such a nasty awful thing?

 

[chaseter]

Yes.

The general audience does not go see a movie 4 or 5 times. Fanboys do that. Fanboys are in the minority but they are responsible for a movie's later legs. The general audience and the fans go the first week and that is why most movies are so front loaded. After that, bad movies usually have a huge drop off because there are hardly any repeat viewings.

 

[night0205]

The general audience does not go see a movie 4 or 5 times. Fanboys do that. Fanboys are in the minority but they are responsible for a movie's later legs.

I don't know If I agree with that... I think the legs have mostly to do with the general audience returning to see it more, with family, friends, and so on, but it has to be a quality film for it to have good legs, at least people have to like it. Fans are still a small % of box office...i mean watchmen is worshiped by its fans, and that movie had no legs.

 

[chaseter]

I don't know If I agree with that... I think the legs have mostly to do with the general audience returning to see it more, with family, friends, and so on, but it has to be a quality film for it to have good legs, at least people have to like it. Fans are still a small % of box office...i mean watchmen is worshiped by its fans, and that movie had no legs.

A lot of fans were dissapointed with that movie. A lot of them even said it was too faithful which from fans that was a first. It just didn't do good because the general audience didn't know what it was and went in and was shocked or dissapointed and Watchmen still has a smaller fanbase as compared to Wolverine, Batman, or Spider-Man. There are way more fans of Wolverine than there are of Watchmen.

 

[Electrix]

How am I in the minority? X-Men 3 got a 50 something on RT...what does that mean? A 7/10 on IMDB is a C. Are you happy with C grade movies Do you just love C grade cinema? I don't care what the general public likes as I have already listed many movies that are utter garbage that the general audience eats up. You are in the minority on here that think this movie is teh awesome.

How is it a bad thing that I want better films for the heroes that I grew up with and love? How is that a bad thing? How is not settling for mediocrity such a nasty awful thing?

You are in a minority because only 218 people reviewed X-Men 3 on RT (123 of which were fresh), compared to the 90,000+ who voted on IMDB. X-Men 3 was also one of the top selling DVD's of 2006, and overall X-Men 3 is considered a good successful movie.

I don't think the movie is teh awesome because I haven't seen it. I've just defending it against hating fanboys who didn't get what they wanted and continue to tell us how much they hated on this forum, (dare I say ruining it for everyone else)

There's nothing bad about wanted better movies. You can want better movies all day everyday. But at the end of the day it is your opinion, and the majority of people enjoy and like what you call 'mediocrity', hence all the sequels and now Wolverine. Aslong as the majority of audiences like these films and go and continue seeing them your wanting will go unnoticed, apart from when you convert it to pixels on a fanboy forum.

 

[chaseter]

You are in a minority because only 218 people reviewed X-Men 3 on RT, compared to the 90,000+ who voted on IMDB. X-Men 3 was also one of the top selling DVD's of 2006. Plus, fanboys are a minority anyway.

I don't think the movie is teh awesome because I haven't seen it. I've just defending it against hating fanboys who didn't get what they wanted and continue to tell us how much they hated on this forum.

There's nothing bad about wanted better movies. You can want better movies all day everyday. But at the end of the day it is your opinion, and the majority of people enjoy and like what you call 'mediocrity', hence all the sequels and now Wolverine. Aslong as the majority of audiences like these films and go and see them your wanting will go unnoticed.

So you like C grade movies? What does it selling tons of dvd's have to do with anything? How many things in life do good with a C grade? Do you buy C grade food? Do you do C grade work at your job? Did you do C grade school work?

I am not arguing that I didn't get what I want. I am arguing that it is a mediocre film. I could care less if they took liberties and changed comic things but I care if they put together a sloppy product. There is nothing wrong with seeing a movie in which you are dissapointed in and arguing the points on how much better the movie could have been. Fox delivered a mediocre product and a C grade is a mediocre product.

It is my opinion so why are you trying to either change my mind or defend something you haven't seen? If you like this movie then that is great! Come on here and tell us how you liked it and I won't argue with you one bit. I post my mind and people usually respond to it to defend against something that I said so I then respond.

 

[night0205]

Fox thinks of movies from a $$$ stand point, not always a logical standpoint. I'm not sure what they are thinking, but if they don't change something fast they will go from the biggest distributor to one of the lower end ones. I mean wolverine is the only movie that is not tanking for fox...yet...or am I missing something?

I mean star wars kept them up but that's over. Superhero movies, have kept them up, mainly x-men. Dragonball and Street Fighter...look like they lost money...

 

[chaseter]

Fox thinks of movies from a $$$ stand point, not always a logical standpoint. I'm not sure what they are thinking, but if they don't change something fast they will go from the biggest distributor to one of the lower end ones. I mean wolverine is the only movie that is not tanking for fox...yet...or am I missing something?

I agree. They are in stormy waters right now.

 

[danoyse]

The general audience does not go see a movie 4 or 5 times. Fanboys do that. Fanboys are in the minority but they are responsible for a movie's later legs. The general audience and the fans go the first week and that is why most movies are so front loaded. After that, bad movies usually have a huge drop off because there are hardly any repeat viewings.

I saw X3 again in the theater about a month after it opened. It was in the smaller theater by then, but it was surprisingly full, and judging from the conversation I was hearing around the theater...most of them hadn't seen it yet. Not only that, they freakin' loved it.

 

[chaseter]

I saw X3 again in the theater about a month after it opened. It was in the smaller theater by then, but it was surprisingly full, and judging from the conversation I was hearing around the theater...most of them hadn't seen it yet. Not only that, they freakin' loved it.

I saw X3 three times, believe it or not , and the first time I went, midnight, it was packed of course. I then went that Sunday with my family to see if I would like it better and it was still pretty full. The next weekend, when it dropped to 2nd, it was pretty bare where I was when I went the third time. I so badly wanted to love that movie

Same with SM3. Full the first weekend and then about 1/3 full the next weekend. How did you know they loved it? The midnight showing was a bunch of sighs and moans and groans so I figured that they were dissapointed but those were mostly fans. The only way I can gauge if a film is being loved or hated is the reactions during the movie, if it is loud then they love it and vice versa, and some of the conversations afterward that I overhear.

 

[Electrix]

Fox thinks of movies from a $$$ stand point, not always a logical standpoint. I'm not sure what they are thinking, but if they don't change something fast they will go from the biggest distributor to one of the lower end ones. I mean wolverine is the only movie that is not tanking for fox...yet...or am I missing something?

I mean star wars kept them up but that's over. Superhero movies, have kept them up, mainly x-men. Dragonball and Street Fighter...look like they lost money...

They should have a better year this year, with Taken being a hit, Wolverine, Ice Age 3, Night at he Museum, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Avatar, plus the smaller films.

 

[chaseter]

Taken was a hit because Fox didn't make it

Night 3, and Ice Age 3 will do good. Avatar will either be a huge hit or a huge miss so we will see about that one.