Daredevil Daredevil General Discussion Thread

[gohei_]

Yeah I know. I'm not saying he should move exactly like Cap but he should be moving around as much as Cap does, if not more.

 

[metaphysician]

CGI isn't the reason for budgetary concerns. Good practical stunt work costs money, too, often a lot of money. I tend to think Daredevil will be the second most expensive of the shows because of the need for lots of stunt work; only Iron Fist, which would need just as much stunt work *and* more CGI, would exceed it.

 

[Hypestyle]

The billy club should be able to expand to a staff and split up for nunchucks.

 

[gohei_]

Yeah it should be as in the movie; two sticks that combine into both a staff and nunchucks. Just be a little more creative with it than what we got.

 

[The.Brotherhood]

I would love to see 'The Hand' play an integral role in this show

 

[metaphysician]

I would love to see 'The Hand' play an integral role in this show

But only in season 2 or later, IMO. The first season will have plenty of balls to juggle as is.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, there's no way at all I think they can fit them in the first season unless they give it to one of the other heroes's show.

 

[The.Brotherhood]

But only in season 2 or later, IMO. The first season will have plenty of balls to juggle as is.

Yep. slow integration, also I wonder if elektra will be 'Elektra' in season 1?

 

[Six]

Now that Agents of SHIELD is sucking a lot less now, I'm not as worried about this. It also lends itself to TV a lot easier than SHIELD so I have no doubt it will be awesome.

 

[the gael]

Yes, I have some good feeling about the show too. There is nothing to fear, for us fans without fear !

If I was in Goddard shoes, I would have written this for the pilot :

Everything begins with Matt on a plane for New York. He has lived in Chicago for 2 or 3 years, having begun his lawyer carreer in the Sussman and Castro firm.

Officially, he has a job to do for Sussman and Castro, but Matt has another agenda : It's the trial of the Fixer and his men, the guys who killed his father 6 or 7 years ago after he refused to lose a match.

After a mock trial, they are released. Matt is furious.

Matt meet again his former best friend from the university, Foggy Nelson, who is really embarrassed by the actual situation of the city :

Matt finds a city that has completely changed since the Avengers movie, more insecure, expecially since the fall of the SHIELD : High tech weapon like the chitauri ones are at disposition of criminals.

The underworld of crime itself is stirred, and the old fashioned kinpin of crime, Alexander Bond, is threatened by new criminals with superpower or high tech weapons, the mystical ninja cult of the "Hand". One of Bond lieutenant, a guy named Wilson Fisk, is ambitious and has a clear vision of the future, something Bond now lacks.

Returning to his old "Hell's Kitchen", Matt meet Johnny Squarejohn, one of his former childhood bullies who now try to "save his city". He explain Matt that heroes like Iron Man are fitghting world level or cosmic level threat, but nobody is helping the area.

Matt decide to help him as a lawyer, somewhat abandonning his Sussman and Castro mission.

After Johnny Squarejohn is killed by the Fixer, they found that he has now a contact, whose nickname is "Daredevil" (the nickname that Johnny and co gave to Matt to mock him because he didn't want to fight them)

They're searching for Daredevil... and they will find him when the "Ghost" of Battling Jack Murdock, dressed like a devil in his former yellow and red boxer robe.

The pilot would have end with the Fixer dead and his men in jail, Wilson Fisk comforting, slowly, his position in the crime world, and Matt fired from Sussman and Castro and founding "Nelson and Murdock" with Foggy with the help of Foggy's money.

 

[HunBoy]

Edit.

 

[the gael]

In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man Is king !

 

[gohei_]

In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man Is king !

What does that make the man with a radar sense? Emperor?

 

[mkilban2]

Why don't people like, or seemingly commonly bash the Daredevil movie? I just watched it for the first time (about 10 years late) and really enjoyed it. Other than his costume looking a bit silly to me and the movie being a bit visually dark, at least on my crappy TV, I thought it was cool.

Actually gets me pretty excited for the TV show now, seeing what can be done now 10 years later. He's an interesting character and I like the way they portray the way he "sees" the world around him. (I know nothing of his comic character but the film was cool.)

 

[Mike Murdock]

I have it on my list to rewatch (I've heard the Director's Cut is better, but I couldn't get the Amazon rental for that). I seem to recall it just being boring. Nothing particular to point to. It's undoubtedly faithful for a comicbook movie of its time, it tries to explore some interesting themes, but it still comes off as fairly shallow and uninteresting.

But maybe the rewatch will tell me I'm wrong.

 

[metaphysician]

Its not terrible ( other than everything involving a courtroom ), but its a definite step down versus the prior CBMs. Remember, before it you had stuff like Spider-man, and the first two X-Men movies, as comparisons.

 

[Silvermoth]

Why don't people like, or seemingly commonly bash the Daredevil movie? I just watched it for the first time (about 10 years late) and really enjoyed it. Other than his costume looking a bit silly to me and the movie being a bit visually dark, at least on my crappy TV, I thought it was cool.

Actually gets me pretty excited for the TV show now, seeing what can be done now 10 years later. He's an interesting character and I like the way they portray the way he "sees" the world around him. (I know nothing of his comic character but the film was cool.)

It wasn't at the same quality as the comics. It was trying a little too hard to be spiderman and some scenes felt more like a music video than a street level crime movie

 

[fixxxer]

Yea, I would agree with the general consensus here. The original Daredevil film was nowhere close to being on the level of the Ghost Rider/Ghost Rider 2/Green Lantern/Elektra/X-Men 3/M-Men Origins: Wolverine/Fantastic Four 2 pile of steaming crap, but was somewhat drab and uninspired... and didn't really "get" the character at all. I would put it somewhere near the level of Singer's Superman Returns. Not bad, per se, but just mildly disappointing overall.

Like Mike Murdock, I've heard that the Director's Cut is a big improvement, and has been on my to-watch list for some time now.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

The DC is held in pretty high regard around here, or it used to be at any rate. It has some problems but I love it, personally. It's one of my favorite of the early 2000 cbm's.

 

[gohei_]

When the original cut came out I honestly really liked it, the DC is much much better though.

 

[Eddie]

The real problem with the Daredevil film was that it tried to do too much. It should have been more than one movie. The Elektra relationship in particular suffers. Parts of that movie rival the better superhero flicks of the time, but that park scene is just awkward.

 

[Rorschach2012]

The Daredevil movie had so much potential, and there are some really great scenes

 

[gohei_]

The Daredevil movie had so much potential, and there are some really great scenes

I especially like the ones from the DC where he's about to go to sleep and he hears all this commotion and someone getting shot, and also when he wakes up and you can hear his knees crackle when he stands up. Just small and simple stuff like that.

 

[Marvel Spider]

So this films in July? We should start getting casting news soon, then.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I especially like the ones from the DC where he's about to go to sleep and he hears all this commotion and someone getting shot, and also when he wakes up and you can hear his knees crackle when he stands up. Just small and simple stuff like that.

All the scars on his body, the medicine cabinet full of painkillers. Those were all great touches.

"I'm not the bad guy, kid."

**** now I have to watch it again.