Destiny 2

[Soapy]

That's it. Just an image Bungie posted on Twitter.

 

[Iceman]

I've got reasonably high hopes for this. Bungie finally figured out what they needed to do to make this game work, and even before that I found this game fun when playing with friends (kind of ****e otherwise). Maybe this time they can deliver that experience they promised first time around.

 

[X Knight]

there has to be a strong story and single player experience for me to get interested.

 

[Iceman]

Yes I think both TitanFall and Destiny, the 2 new big sci-fi games of this gen, missed a trick by not doing this properly first time around out of the gate. I enjoyed the few story bits we got with Destiny and think there was a lot of potential there. And TitanFall showed how good a campaign for the first game could have been with the sequel. It seems they've both realised the merits of covering this aspect to some degree but it can be difficult to get people back 2nd time around although many of my friends have been playing Destiny since The Taken King, many others are done with it having given it a shot and have no interest in a sequel. Even GotY nominations don't seem to make much difference to some once they've given something a shot and come away unsatisfied.

 

[X Knight]

if Destiny 2 is more of the same, then I can see how some Destiny players may have no desire to return.

but if 2 is a different beast altogether, then that could keep veteran players interested and attract new ones ( like me ).

however, now that MEA is out, I must say my interest in anything Destiny is way less. I think my initial interest in Destiny was more of a desire for a Mass Effect substitute on the new consoles. But now that the real thing is out ( MEA ), I have less interest in a substitute.

if that makes sense.

 

[Iceman]

if Destiny 2 is more of the same, then I can see how some Destiny players may have no desire to return.

but if 2 is a different beast altogether, then that could keep veteran players interested and attract new ones ( like me ).

however, now that MEA is out, I must say my interest in anything Destiny is way less. I think my initial interest in Destiny was more of a desire for a Mass Effect substitute on the new consoles. But now that the real thing is out ( MEA ), I have less interest in a substitute.

if that makes sense.

Yes it does, although there are 6 months till Destiny 2 so you might get in the mood for it again by then, depending how soon you are done with Mass Effect (I'll probably still be playing the multiplayer even if I've done everything I want to do in the campaign).

I agree that the logical case would be that gamers would return as soon as they find a series is back to greatness but I've found a lot of stubbornness in at least many gamers I know who almost feel wronged if something doesn't get it right first time (or makes a ME3 ending style cock-up or Duke Nukem/Colonial Marines style deception (in this last case I understand)) for having taken up their time or left them disappointed and it has taken more than just a great next game to get them back. I do also have lots of more 'normal' friends who think more similarly to me and go wherever the best games are regardless lol.

 

[X Knight]

Yes it does, although there are 6 months till Destiny 2 so you might get in the mood for it again by then, depending how soon you are done with Mass Effect (I'll probably still be playing the multiplayer even if I've done everything I want to do in the campaign).

I agree that the logical case would be that gamers would return as soon as they find a series is back to greatness but I've found a lot of stubbornness in at least many gamers I know who almost feel wronged if something doesn't get it right first time (or makes a ME3 ending style cock-up or Duke Nukem/Colonial Marines style deception (in this last case I understand)) for having taken up their time or left them disappointed and it has taken more than just a great next game to get them back. I do also have lots of more 'normal' friends who think more similarly to me and go wherever the best games are regardless lol.

well, one strike Destiny has against it for me is that it's a 1st person shooter ( primarily ).

if it were entirely 3rd person like MEA, or if you could switch between 1st and 3rd like Fallout/Skyrim, then I'd be more interested.

in general, I'm wary of spending too much time in 1st person cuz it tends to make me sick.

but the initial premise of Destiny sounded interesting - an open world, sci-fi MMO style RPG in a "living world" with other players. that just happened to be a 1st person shooter.

The actual game, though, fell far short of that. Hopefully the sequel can come closer to fulfilling that original premise.

 

[Iceman]

well, one strike Destiny has against it for me is that it's a 1st person shooter ( primarily ).

if it were entirely 3rd person like MEA, or if you could switch between 1st and 3rd like Fallout/Skyrim, then I'd be more interested.

in general, I'm wary of spending too much time in 1st person cuz it tends to make me sick.

but the initial premise of Destiny sounded interesting - an open world, sci-fi MMO style RPG in a "living world" with other players. that just happened to be a 1st person shooter.

The actual game, though, fell far short of that. Hopefully the sequel can come closer to fulfilling that original premise.

OH they make you sick? That must be quite limiting then with how modern games went so hard towards FPS. I definitely prefer 3rd person (nearly all of my favourite games happen to be in 3rd person too) and I can't develop much of a link with the character I'm playing in first person mode.

 

[X Knight]

OH they make you sick? That must be quite limiting then with how modern games went so hard towards FPS. I definitely prefer 3rd person (nearly all of my favourite games happen to be in 3rd person too) and I can't develop much of a link with the character I'm playing in first person mode.

not all the time. and not all games.

but yeah, if I spend too long playing a 1st person game, I tend to find that I get queasy and slightly dizzy. at worse, I'll get a splitting headache that can throw me off for several hours.

so, yeah, it does limit the games. but that's why I feel a 1st person game has to have a strong story/characters or some other hook ( open world freedom in Skyrim ) to draw me in.

if it's primarily just a MP-focused shoot-em-up fest, or something with a paper thin story ( like Destiny ), then that doesn't really interest me.

 

[Iceman]

Makes sense in that case.

 

[X Knight]

^ and it's not just FPS games. even 3rd party games with extremely ****** camera systems can throw me off with all the moving around.

guess I'm not a candidate for VR games........lol

 

[Iceman]

I know VR simulations (like those rides at Disneyland or Universal Studios) can make my stomach turn.

 

[X Knight]

^ it's been ages since I've been to a theme park. but I don't recall ever getting sick on those rides.

and surprisingly, I haven't had any problems watching movies in 3d. go figure.....lol.

 

[Soapy]

I'm hoping for the best with Destiny 2, but I do have two major concerns about it.

The first has to do with the mostly undeserved success of Destiny 1. Bungie does deserve credit for taking a bad game, and reworking it into a good one. However, Destiny inexplicably attracted a large and rabid fanbase from day one, long before Bungie started hammering on it and reshaping it into something people might actually want to play. My worry is that, rather than looking at Destiny 2 as an opportunity and second chance to make good on their original vision for the game, they'll simply cater to the people that became fans of what Destiny was rather than the people who were excited by what Destiny could have been.

My second concern has to do with the ongoing support of Destiny 2 post-release. The biggest failing of Destiny (aside from the vanilla game) was the anemic support of the game after release. Four expansions sounds like a lot, but The Taken King was the only solid and respectable piece of content they released. All the rest were huge ripoffs. The Dark Below in particular was a complete joke. And I know it sounds bad to complain about free stuff, but the free updates were just pathetic compared to the free offerings of other similar games. When making a game of this type, whether we're talking free, paid expansions, or subscription, ongoing support is a must and is expected, and outside of The Taken King they really dropped the ball. Which brings me to what worries me about Destiny 2 in this regard.

To my knowledge, all the DLC for Destiny 1 was made up of reworked content that was cut from the original version of the game before they rebooted it late in development. How in the hell is Bungie going to provide ongoing support of Destiny 2 when the only way they could support Destiny 1 was to recycle abandoned content from an older version of the game? Like, if creating new content is so difficult and time consuming with their development tools and process, how can anyone expect them to provide a decent amount of content in a timely manner and IDEALLY not cost dramatically more than its worth as we saw with the first game?

Having said all that, at the end of the day I enjoyed Destiny 1 despite its glaring issues. And as I said above Bungie deserves credit for showing a willingness to listen to complaints and address them with the first game, and that has earned back my good will for the time being and perhaps against my own better judgement I'm looking forward to Destiny 2.

 

[X Knight]

I'm hoping for the best with Destiny 2, but I do have two major concerns about it.

The first has to do with the mostly undeserved success of Destiny 1. Bungie does deserve credit for taking a bad game, and reworking it into a good one. However, Destiny inexplicably attracted a large and rabid fanbase from day one, long before Bungie started hammering on it and reshaping it into something people might actually want to play. My worry is that, rather than looking at Destiny 2 as an opportunity and second chance to make good on their original vision for the game, they'll simply cater to the people that became fans of what Destiny was rather than the people who were excited by what Destiny could have been.

My second concern has to do with the ongoing support of Destiny 2 post-release. The biggest failing of Destiny (aside from the vanilla game) was the anemic support of the game after release. Four expansions sounds like a lot, but The Taken King was the only solid and respectable piece of content they released. All the rest were huge ripoffs. The Dark Below in particular was a complete joke. And I know it sounds bad to complain about free stuff, but the free updates were just pathetic compared to the free offerings of other similar games. When making a game of this type, whether we're talking free, paid expansions, or subscription, ongoing support is a must and is expected, and outside of The Taken King they really dropped the ball. Which brings me to what worries me about Destiny 2 in this regard.

To my knowledge, all the DLC for Destiny 1 was made up of reworked content that was cut from the original version of the game before they rebooted it late in development. How in the hell is Bungie going to provide ongoing support of Destiny 2 when the only way they could support Destiny 1 was to recycle abandoned content from an older version of the game? Like, if creating new content is so difficult and time consuming with their development tools and process, how can anyone expect them to provide a decent amount of content in a timely manner and IDEALLY not cost dramatically more than its worth as we saw with the first game?

Having said all that, at the end of the day I enjoyed Destiny 1 despite its glaring issues. And as I said above Bungie deserves credit for showing a willingness to listen to complaints and address them with the first game, and that has earned back my good will for the time being and perhaps against my own better judgement I'm looking forward to Destiny 2.

simple. they'll just cut a lot of unused stuff from Destiny 2 and repackage that as DLC.

 

[Soapy]

The only game that ever made me feel sick was Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. I have no idea why, but when I played the demo for that game I just felt nauseated and got this weird feeling in my head/eyes.

 

[X Knight]

^^ hmm.....that is weird, Soapy.

are you secretly an unholy demon/vampire??

 

[zenith16]

Glad to see it's on it's way

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StarCraft Remastered & Destiny 2 Announced - The Rundown - Electric Playground

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It's back! Get ready for the first Rundown of 2017! Today, we have the first details on StarCraft Remastered and Destiny 2, the latest on the Nintendo Switch shortages, an update from Disney about Star Wars, new intel about Call of Duty, details on an Assassin's Creed TV series, cool news about the remake of Escape from New York, and finally, a look at the final DLC for Dark Souls 3!



source: EPN.tv ​

 

[Soapy]

Teaser

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[Soapy]

Trailer

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[Iceman]

Um yeah, that looks really good!

 

[Nathan]

Fillion is the best thing about Destiny, but I still don't care the slightest bit about Destiny 2. The first one burned me too much.

 

[Iceman]

I'm hoping for the best with Destiny 2, but I do have two major concerns about it.

The first has to do with the mostly undeserved success of Destiny 1. Bungie does deserve credit for taking a bad game, and reworking it into a good one. However, Destiny inexplicably attracted a large and rabid fanbase from day one, long before Bungie started hammering on it and reshaping it into something people might actually want to play. My worry is that, rather than looking at Destiny 2 as an opportunity and second chance to make good on their original vision for the game, they'll simply cater to the people that became fans of what Destiny was rather than the people who were excited by what Destiny could have been.

My second concern has to do with the ongoing support of Destiny 2 post-release. The biggest failing of Destiny (aside from the vanilla game) was the anemic support of the game after release. Four expansions sounds like a lot, but The Taken King was the only solid and respectable piece of content they released. All the rest were huge ripoffs. The Dark Below in particular was a complete joke. And I know it sounds bad to complain about free stuff, but the free updates were just pathetic compared to the free offerings of other similar games. When making a game of this type, whether we're talking free, paid expansions, or subscription, ongoing support is a must and is expected, and outside of The Taken King they really dropped the ball. Which brings me to what worries me about Destiny 2 in this regard.

To my knowledge, all the DLC for Destiny 1 was made up of reworked content that was cut from the original version of the game before they rebooted it late in development. How in the hell is Bungie going to provide ongoing support of Destiny 2 when the only way they could support Destiny 1 was to recycle abandoned content from an older version of the game? Like, if creating new content is so difficult and time consuming with their development tools and process, how can anyone expect them to provide a decent amount of content in a timely manner and IDEALLY not cost dramatically more than its worth as we saw with the first game?

Having said all that, at the end of the day I enjoyed Destiny 1 despite its glaring issues. And as I said above Bungie deserves credit for showing a willingness to listen to complaints and address them with the first game, and that has earned back my good will for the time being and perhaps against my own better judgement I'm looking forward to Destiny 2.

I am also hoping for the best and now that I have a group of friends who want to eventually play through the first game, I plan to eventually go back and finish it up ahead of Destiny 2. I knew part of but not all of that history that you've written about so it's good to find out about it. I have optimism that Bungie will give us what everyone wanted first time out and then word will spread turning Destiny into a juggernaut. But if they don't do it on this 2nd chance the Bungie name will be permanently tarnished for me and I can't see a great future for Destiny after the 2nd game.

 

[X Knight]

trailer looked interesting.

looks like the game will be more story heavy then?

have they said?

 

[Nathan]

trailer looked interesting.

looks like the game will be more story heavy then?

have they said?

I think I've read how they wanted to focus more on the story and its characters. But back then they also said that Destiny can sit alongside Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. So yeah, they say a lot.