Rumor: Microsoft to buy Bungie back?

[Iceman]

yeah, you got me there. cod's been a juggernaut ever since MW2.
perhaps, but it will be a very slow process. they're sales are declining but it is ever so slight.

I'd like to think with all the hype behind it that Destiny might have grown into a challenger after a couple more games if it had an epic campaign, better co-op with randoms and top notch next gen multiplayer (thought Bungie would give us that). Anyway will be interesting to see if CoD can maintain the run to the end of the generation and onwards. Maybe something like Star Wars Battlefront might be a contender. All depends on execution and marketing (and a bit of luck) of course.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I'd like to think with all the hype behind it that Destiny might have grown into a challenger after a couple more games if it had an epic campaign, better co-op with randoms and top notch next gen multiplayer (thought Bungie would give us that). Anyway will be interesting to see if CoD can maintain the run to the end of the generation and onwards. Maybe something like Star Wars Battlefront might be a contender. All depends on execution and marketing (and a bit of luck) of course.

by epic campaign, I hope you mean dedicated, offline. But yeah man, I don't see any other game taking the torch away from cod in the next few years. At least for a multiplat game.

 

[Iceman]

by epic campaign, I hope you mean dedicated, offline. But yeah man, I don't see any other game taking the torch away from cod in the next few years. At least for a multiplat game.

Epic in relation to scale and quality of the single player story mode. Don't mind if there are co-op and online options for it (would probably make it better) as long as it can also be fully enjoyed solo and offline.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Epic in relation to scale and quality of the single player story mode. Don't mind if there are co-op and online options for it (would probably make it better) as long as it can also be fully enjoyed solo and offline.

then yes, I agree 100%. it is the lack of this that killed my interest for the game.

 

[Benstamania]

Destiny wouldn't work offline, IMHO it's perfectly fine as an online only title. If someone doesn't want to play it because if that, fine.. But who the hell isn't always online anymore?

I feel the 2nd could be even bigger than the first. People will B&M about how they hated the first all the way to wherever they're getting the 2nd, lol. I'd love to see Destiny more fleshed out.. But I feel an "offline" mode isn't needed. More so with how the game gets difficult. They could put in a great story mode and keep it online.. They also need to open up fire teams to at LEAST 4 people.. Six at most.

 

[Benstamania]

Also if they expand on the MMO part of it.. Don't hope for an offline mode in the sequel.

 

[Benstamania]

I thought another flock mentality game might have come out by now that caught on in the same way. Do you think it's going to stay at the top for good?

No. Nothing ever does. I think FPS games in general will take a back seat to MOBA's once they hit big on consoles. If Halo 5 is solid I have a feeling that could take a large chunk of the Xbox cod market.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Destiny wouldn't work offline, IMHO it's perfectly fine as an online only title. If someone doesn't want to play it because if that, fine.. But who the hell isn't always online anymore?

I feel the 2nd could be even bigger than the first. People will B&M about how they hated the first all the way to wherever they're getting the 2nd, lol. I'd love to see Destiny more fleshed out.. But I feel an "offline" mode isn't needed. More so with how the game gets difficult. They could put in a great story mode and keep it online.. They also need to open up fire teams to at LEAST 4 people.. Six at most.

I can't speak for everyone, but the same day sony announced 18.5 million Ps4s sold, they also announced 11 million Ps+ subscribers, which leaves a good amount of people playing offlne.

I don't see how the game wouldn't work with a dedicated, single player campaign that doesn't need to be connected to the internet. But I agree that the sequel will be huge, even bigger than the first. A lot of people that do play it have a blast with it, criticism aside.

 

[Iceman]

No. Nothing ever does. I think FPS games in general will take a back seat to MOBA's once they hit big on consoles. If Halo 5 is solid I have a feeling that could take a large chunk of the Xbox cod market.

Hope so. I wouldn't call myself a Halo fan in particular but I'm really looking forward to Halo 5. There has to be a next gen game at some point that everyone totally gets into.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Hope so. I wouldn't call myself a Halo fan in particular but I'm really looking forward to Halo 5. There has to be a next gen game at some point that everyone totally gets into.

as an exclusive game, i'm sure it will. didn't halo 4 outsell the 360 version of blops 2?

 

[Iceman]

as an exclusive game, i'm sure it will. didn't halo 4 outsell the 360 version of blops 2?

Not 4 but Halo 3 was in that ballpark.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Not 4 but Halo 3 was in that ballpark.

halo 3 released right before the cod phenomenon began (cod 4 came out in november, halo 3 in september). and since then, cod reigned every single year and we didn't see a numeric halo installment till 2012. there've been halo games in between but that's a 5 year gap. I thought, being that it was halo, outsold any other game on 360 that year.

 

[Iceman]

It did very well, better than everything except 3 and Reach which was slightly ahead of it, but Black Ops 2 was a fair bit higher. I don't think there's ever been a game as crazy as CoD. Most other big sellers release games much further apart but CoD can sustain multiple lines and release every year and still do huge numbers.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

It did very well, better than everything except 3 and Reach which was slightly ahead of it, but Black Ops 2 was a fair bit higher. I don't think there's ever been a game as crazy as CoD. Most other big sellers release games much further apart but CoD can sustain multiple lines and release every year and still do huge numbers.

Indeed, and every single year their sales rose. MW2 sold close 5 million the first day, blops close to 6 million, MW3 7 mill, blops 2 ~7.5 - but then starting with ghosts like I said, they've been on a very slight, steady decline.

also as far as launch time goes, Halo 4 did better than Halo 3. Halo 3 made $170 mill day one, and 4 did $220 mill. They both reached $300 mill at the end of their respective first weeks though.

 

[Iceman]

The vast majority of successful games are sequels nowadays so it'll take a big effort by whoever eventually breaks the dominance, even if it takes another generation or so before it happens. I thought Destiny would be a big contender but I don't think it will quite get there any more. I think Activision will be fine with small declines as the CoD games were probably getting close to saturation point and roughly maintaining what they have is more than enough. Games will probably get more frontloaded as digital copies being available meaning theoretically that they can never sell out. I think the first multiplayer/co-op game that can be truly called next gen (current gen now but you know what I mean) will make a killing. Gears of War 1 was that for me last gen.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The vast majority of successful games are sequels nowadays so it'll take a big effort by whoever eventually breaks the dominance, even if it takes another generation or so before it happens. I thought Destiny would be a big contender but I don't think it will quite get there any more. I think Activision will be fine with small declines as the CoD games were probably getting close to saturation point and roughly maintaining what they have is more than enough. Games will probably get more frontloaded as digital copies being available meaning theoretically that they can never sell out. I think the first multiplayer/co-op game that can be truly called next gen (current gen now but you know what I mean) will make a killing. Gears of War 1 was that for me last gen.

commercially, destiny was very successful. I think it did become the best selling new IP, and I think a sequel can become the next cod. by that I mean, sequels with nonstop success. not annualization, lol

as for gears, I think everybody thought titanfall was gonna be the next big thing for new gen like gears was for last gen. arguably it is, but.. not entirely. I guess we've yet to see that. it could be bloodborne, if we're not limited to talking just about shooters.

 

[Iceman]

I thought Destiny would have the universal goodwill that a Cod:4 had which is the kind of springboard it would have needed to get there. There are many games that do big numbers releasing every few years, even solely single player games. I guess Destiny will be like one of those.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I thought Destiny would have the universal goodwill that a Cod:4 had which is the kind of springboard it would have needed to get there. There are many games that do big numbers releasing every few years, even solely single player games. I guess Destiny will be like one of those.

I think one can make an argument that it did, I dunno. cod wasn't a slouch in sales but it wasn't until modern warfare that it got to the top of the game. either way though I don't like how some games are annualized, sports games included. I agree destiny will be like the every few year, big releases though.

 

[Coca Cola Duracell Franklin.]

The source of this unlikely rumor has since been removed. I doubt there is any legitimacy. Microsoft doesn't need Bungie back to produce Halo, as 343i has a lot of old Bungie guard working there. Bungie has a three-game deal with Activision and still owes them Destiny 2 and 3. I don't see it ever happening.

Bungie's clout was the Halo IP. Microsoft has that now, and with COD taking the lion's share of FPS titles, there's been a shift in strategy for Microsoft away from first-party shooter titles.

 

[m4st4]

Destiny v Halo: Dawn of Servers?