Dick Grayson Casting Thread

[Mandon Knight]

I don't know what that means.... t:

But I don't think his presence or that "thing" comes across in these pictures, if you have the chance try to check Frontier.

Basically Radcliffe if he'd not gone to posh school....

 

[terry78]

Now I can't unsee it.

 

[Tg11]

Kit Harrington

 

[Silvermoth]

Someone suggested Lewis Tan as Nightwing which I think would be an amazing casting decision, I reckon he would be great with some Whedon dialogue

 

[Tg11]

Or how about Dacre Montgomery

 

[wnjcwjkk]

Literally no one said that a minority actor doesn't have the chops to play a traditionally white character.

Denzel Washington, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Will Smith, Mahershala Ali, David Oyelowo, Morgan Freeman, Forest Whitaker, Terrance Howard, Samuel L. Jackson, Don Cheadle, Cuba Gooding Jr., Laurence Fishburne ... All amongst the best actors living today.

Literally zero people have said that minority actors don't have the chops.

I've made a pretty clear argument as to why race changes get an emotional response from fans. It's not about an actor of another race not having the acting ability to perform the character, it's that generations of fans grew up seeing themselves in that character and a big reason is because they identified with them from a physical/visual level. So giving diversity so that another group can have a character that reflects them will always come at the expense of taking it away from an established fanbase.

Now, I'm not saying that I can't see part of myself in a minority character or that a minority fan can't see themselves in a white character ... or that a character's race is their main and defining characteristic. It's not. But it is a big part of a person's identity.

A white woman couldn't play Storm. That doesn't mean that there are no white women who have the chops to play the part. It's just that Ororo Munroe is a black woman. She's a character that little black girls look up to and see themselves in and are inspired by. It would be unfair to take her away from them. Just like it's unfair to change Dick Grayson for no other reason than diversity's sake.

-R

Yeah, Idk that it has as much to do with identifying with or wanting to see yourself in a character, so you'd prefer that character to be your race. I think it's just simply, people want the adaptation to look like as close to the actual character that they already know. I remember being on some forums and comments section when the rumor first started that Idris Elba might play the role of Roland (The Gunslinger in Stephen King's Dark Tower) and anybody who expressed dissatisfaction was labeled a racist. But really, it's no different than people expressing unhappiness when Ledger was cast as Joker, they have a very specific image in mind of what Joker should look like. Obviously, if the actor nails it, people will change their mind and agree that it was the right choice. And obviously, some people are racist, but I think for most fans, it's not so much the race of the actor being the issue, as it is that, simply, the actor just doesn't resemble previous incarnations of the character closely enough.

 

[wnjcwjkk]

Kit Harrington

I would like that, or the guy who plays Robb Stark (Richard Madden).




Also, if they changed Grayson's race, it would be like "Bruce Wayne recently took in a young African American orphan, and now Batman has a young African American partner. Hmm...."


Though, I suppose in a world that people can't look at Clark Kent and immediately tell that he's Superman, you don't really have to worry about logic like that

 

[David H.]

Also, if they changed Grayson's race, it would be like "Bruce Wayne recently took in a young African American orphan, and now Batman has a young African American partner. Hmm...."

Huh? Would he be the only black person in Gotham?

 

[Rowsdower!]

I just started watching Frontier, and I found a new candidate I'd like to throw in the mix: Landon Loboiron!

He's 5'10'' (Dick's official height in the comics, if I'm not mistaken....not that it really matters) and at 25 he could be a little on the young side, but actor's real age has never really been a problem; he definitely has Dick's boyish charm while also having some strength and determination to him, and he definitely has presence (standing while being threatened by Momoa on screen and not being eaten up?? Check), he may not be in Efron's shape...but that's where Mark Twight comes into play! t:

That's decent, but I want a bigger Dick.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Zac Efron as Nightwing by BossLogic Inc:

Efron, Logan Lerman, Dylan O'Brien or Freddie Highmore for younger.

Milo Ventimiglia, Wes Bentley, or Kit Harrington for older.

 

[David H.]

Since he's not really tied up to the X-Men franchise, how about Boyd Holbrook?

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Since he's not really tied up to the X-Men franchise, how about Boyd Holbrook?

Ooh! Liked him a lot in "Logan."

 

[Rowsdower!]

Holbrook would be good but I think I'd prefer him as Hal Jordan. To be honest though, I thought he was kinda wasted in Logan.

 

[ohiostate124]

Not sure why a lot of people have such a hard on for Lewis Tan. Seems like a glorified stuntman to me.

 

[David H.]

Not sure why a lot of people have such a hard on for Lewis Tan. Seems like a glorified stuntman to me.

Haven't even seen Iron Fist but looking at that image...

 

[ohiostate124]

Haven't even seen Iron Fist but looking at that image...

Well, after the whole controversy, I hope they don't cast him as nightwing.

Iron fist is the only thing I've seen him in though and I wasn't impressed.

 

[Mz. Hyde]

Yeah, Idk that it has as much to do with identifying with or wanting to see yourself in a character, so you'd prefer that character to be your race. I think it's just simply, people want the adaptation to look like as close to the actual character that they already know. I remember being on some forums and comments section when the rumor first started that Idris Elba might play the role of Roland (The Gunslinger in Stephen King's Dark Tower) and anybody who expressed dissatisfaction was labeled a racist. But really, it's no different than people expressing unhappiness when Ledger was cast as Joker, they have a very specific image in mind of what Joker should look like. Obviously, if the actor nails it, people will change their mind and agree that it was the right choice. And obviously, some people are racist, but I think for most fans, it's not so much the race of the actor being the issue, as it is that, simply, the actor just doesn't resemble previous incarnations of the character closely enough.

I think different people have different reasoning. I remember last year, someone reported that for casting Justice League Dark, they were specifically looking for a black actress to play Zatanna. I doubt there was much truth to that, but the idea of it kind of upset me still. I love JLD and identify strongly with Zatanna (we even have a similar dress style ), so in that situation it did feel like my representation being taken away and given to someone else. And lets face it, we're not exactly drowning in white female superheroes either. But I'm sure other times, it is about fans wanting the live action version to resemble the character you love. I know some people say that only the most iconic characters' appearance actually matters, but if you're a fan a specific character, it doesn't feel different if it's Batman or Zatanna.

 

[Guts]

Reposting this here.

https://***********/TheLewisTan/status/849378317291724802
This guy had a meeting with WB and he started following Ben Affleck, Geoff Johns, Matt Reeves, and Chris Mckay on twitter. It may be ridiculous to speculate based on who is following who on twitter but maybe he is Nightwing.

 

[David H.]

Reposting this here.

https://***********/TheLewisTan/status/849378317291724802
This guy had a meeting with WB and he started following Ben Affleck, Geoff Johns, Matt Reeves, and Chris Mckay on twitter. It may be ridiculous to speculate based on who is following who on twitter but maybe he is Nightwing.

In a way I could see this happening. It's petty. After the whole Iron Fist thing. Funny too.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

How do we know or assume he met with them to discuss being Nightwing? What if he were someone like the Ninja/Kyodai Ken?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Honestly Steven Yeun is a really good choice for this if they decide to go in a less traditional direction for Nightwing.

 

[Guts]

How do we know or assume he met with them to discuss being Nightwing? What if he were someone like the Ninja/Kyodai Ken?

I think the Nightwing theories would be coming from the fact that he's following Chris Mckay who is directing the Nightwing movie.

 

[The Infernal]

I wouldn't mind seeing Hoseph Gordon Levit back in the DCU. Always felt like his version of Robin went onto become Nightwing after TDKR. Would be cool to see him play Dick Grayson in this version of the DCU.

 

[David H.]

I wouldn't mind seeing Hoseph Gordon Levit back in the DCU. Always felt like his version of Robin went onto become Nightwing after TDKR. Would be cool to see him play Dick Grayson in this version of the DCU.

Adapt Grant Morrison's run and bring Bale as Simon Hurt.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Adapt Grant Morrison's run and bring Bale as Simon Hurt.

Brilliant idea.