Discussion: Online Piracy, Net Neutrality, Killswitch, and Other Internet Issues

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Ron Paul is a racist loon. Being right for the wrong reasons on a couple of issues doesn't make him any less of a racist loon. And no I am not defending any politician's crappy choices by calling him a loon. Bash away at the Pres and any other person, I don't give a ****.

I'm black and him wanting to chuck the civil rights act is more than enough reason for me to never vote for him. I, like many white people, vote my own interest and it isn't in my interest for a majority white country to ban me from sitting at a lunch counter, getting gas at a gas station and generally being more ****ed over way more than I am now just because Ron Paul doesn't like black people and or stupidly believes that most white people just out of the kindness of their own hearts would have stop the segregation laws. That is a fantasy that silly libertarians tell themselves at night.

You know what would have happened without the Civil Rights bill? In 2012, I still would be banned from most places and most white people wouldn't give a **** because it's not them getting ****ed over. And no I'm not going on a screed about how all white people are racists I'm saying that Humanity doesn't work the way Paul says that it does... if he isn't racist (I come down on thinking that he is).

Paul cares about white Americans. Unless a Paul fan can tell me what a black person is to do if they are driving through a small town and run out of gas but all the gas stations have "no blacks allowed." And all the restaurants. And the buses.

So are they just supposed to set in their car and wait to die?

 

[NHawk19]

This is an easy one to take action on. They have the letter all you have to do is enter your info and they'll email your representatives.

http://action.theeca.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5006

 

[wiegeabo]

I might do that later. I've already drafted a new letter to my Rep. Good thing I didn't have much work to do at work today

 

[craigdbfan]

Ron Paul is a racist loon. Being right for the wrong reasons on a couple of issues doesn't make him any less of a racist loon. And no I am not defending any politician's crappy choices by calling him a loon. Bash away at the Pres and any other person, I don't give a ****.

I'm black and him wanting to chuck the civil rights act is more than enough reason for me to never vote for him. I, like many white people, vote my own interest and it isn't in my interest for a majority white country to ban me from sitting at a lunch counter, getting gas at a gas station and generally being more ****ed over way more than I am now just because Ron Paul doesn't like black people and or stupidly believes that most white people just out of the kindness of their own hearts would have stop the segregation laws. That is a fantasy that silly libertarians tell themselves at night.

You know what would have happened without the Civil Rights bill? In 2012, I still would be banned from most places and most white people wouldn't give a **** because it's not them getting ****ed over. And no I'm not going on a screed about how all white people are racists I'm saying that Humanity doesn't work the way Paul says that it does... if he isn't racist (I come down on thinking that he is).

Paul cares about white Americans. Unless a Paul fan can tell me what a black person is to do if they are driving through a small town and run out of gas but all the gas stations have "no blacks allowed." And all the restaurants. And the buses.

So are they just supposed to set in their car and wait to die?

Didn't know that he said that about the Civil Rights Act. He's being an idiot if that's what he said.

That's part of the reason why I'm through with presidential elections. They're all a sham. None of these guys are really good people. To get to that point you've had to step on a lot of people. Plus the role of president is nothing more than being a puppet for 4 or if you're lucky 8 years.

Not going to lie that I agree on a bunch of stuff with Ron Paul (except for that asinine remark about the Civil Rights Act it's so frighteningly dumb I don't know here to begin) but it's not like I'm buying into his rhetoric either. If he would be elected President he wouldn't be able to enact any of the stuff he's supposedly championing for. Never in a million years would TPTB let that happen.

Voting for props and local government stuff is my main concern. The presidential election is a giant joke as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Kane52630]

This is pretty much the internet today:

[YT]dwT9BEh7qZ0[/YT]

 

[enterthemadness]

This is pretty much the internet today:

[YT]dwT9BEh7qZ0[/YT]

Cheese. Nothing but cheese. Just add comedy music to it, Benny Hill. Nice outfits though.

LOTR?

Still Cheese.

 

[craigdbfan]

Cheese. Nothing but cheese. Just add comedy music to it, Benny Hill. Nice outfits though.

LOTR?

Still Cheese.

Cheese is delicious so yes LOTR is cheese and boy is it tasty.

 

[Marx]

...mocking the LOTR should be a bannable offense.

 

[enterthemadness]

If LOTR is cheese, it's the cheap kind at Walmart.

Are there any updates on the media reporting on this?

 

[craigdbfan]

...mocking the LOTR should be a bannable offense.

Make it happen Marx.

 

[enterthemadness]

...mocking the LOTR should be a bannable offense.

Well, don't look at my other post.

 

[wiegeabo]

Ron Paul is a racist loon. Being right for the wrong reasons on a couple of issues doesn't make him any less of a racist loon. And no I am not defending any politician's crappy choices by calling him a loon. Bash away at the Pres and any other person, I don't give a ****.

I'm black and him wanting to chuck the civil rights act is more than enough reason for me to never vote for him. I, like many white people, vote my own interest and it isn't in my interest for a majority white country to ban me from sitting at a lunch counter, getting gas at a gas station and generally being more ****ed over way more than I am now just because Ron Paul doesn't like black people and or stupidly believes that most white people just out of the kindness of their own hearts would have stop the segregation laws. That is a fantasy that silly libertarians tell themselves at night.

You know what would have happened without the Civil Rights bill? In 2012, I still would be banned from most places and most white people wouldn't give a **** because it's not them getting ****ed over. And no I'm not going on a screed about how all white people are racists I'm saying that Humanity doesn't work the way Paul says that it does... if he isn't racist (I come down on thinking that he is).

Paul cares about white Americans. Unless a Paul fan can tell me what a black person is to do if they are driving through a small town and run out of gas but all the gas stations have "no blacks allowed." And all the restaurants. And the buses.

So are they just supposed to set in their car and wait to die?

That's really not what Ron Paul said it all. It's getting off topic, but if you want to see what he said about the House resolution to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act.

Spoiler

Ron Paul: Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my objection to H.Res. 676. I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society.

This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. The framers of the Constitution intended the interstate commerce clause to create a free trade zone among the states, not to give the federal government regulatory power over every business that has any connection with interstate commerce.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business’s workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge’s defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.

Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I join the sponsors of H.Res. 676 in promoting racial harmony and individual liberty, the fact is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not accomplish these goals. Instead, this law unconstitutionally expanded federal power, thus reducing liberty. Furthermore, by prompting raced-based quotas, this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife. Therefore, I must oppose H.Res. 676.

Basically, if someone is being a racist prick, Paul would rather have them change their minds, not out of the kindness of their hearts, but out of fear for their wallets.

Which would be especially effective in today's country where there almost is no racial majority anymore. White became a minority in California a year or two ago, and the country as a whole is almost there.

So if any racist wants to exclude a majority of the people out there from their business, go ahead an let them. It's their property, and they should be able to do what they want with it. Of course, while they're doing that, the non-racists will happily pick up those people up from the marketplace and thrive while the racists go out of business and die off.

(And if you think there aren't places out there where the white-only policy still doesn't apply, even thought there's no sign up, you're deluding yourself. The Civil Rights Act didn't change them any.)

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Didn't know that he said that about the Civil Rights Act. He's being an idiot if that's what he said.

That's part of the reason why I'm through with presidential elections. They're all a sham. None of these guys are really good people. To get to that point you've had to step on a lot of people. Plus the role of president is nothing more than being a puppet for 4 or if you're lucky 8 years.

Not going to lie that I agree on a bunch of stuff with Ron Paul (except for that asinine remark about the Civil Rights Act it's so frighteningly dumb I don't know here to begin) but it's not like I'm buying into his rhetoric either. If he would be elected President he wouldn't be able to enact any of the stuff he's supposedly championing for. Never in a million years would TPTB let that happen.

Voting for props and local government stuff is my main concern. The presidential election is a giant joke as far as I'm concerned.

I'm pretty apathetic on the President front too but I'm not going to lie, if someone who is too much of a nut gets the GOP nod I'm 100% voting for Obama.

I can't get past the Civil Rights stuff to really compliment Paul on anything. I tried and I just can't.

 

[Raiden]

LOTR is awesome. Period.

 

[enterthemadness]

I'm pretty apathetic on the President front too but I'm not going to lie, if someone who is too much of a nut gets the GOP nod I'm 100% voting for Obama.

Obama has taken the debt fom 10.6T to 15.2T. He has sign the NDAA into law. Yea, um, not the best President.

 

[wiegeabo]

Obama has taken the debt fom 10.6T to 15.2T. He has sign the NDAA into law. Yea, um, not the best President.

Yep. Our President signed into law a bill that lets the authorities arrest and detain US Citizens on US soil for indefinite periods of time without a lawyer based on nothing but suspicion.

Besically...we can all get sent to Gitmo now!

 

[Marx]

The increase in the national debt cannot be put squarely on President Obama's shoulders.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Obama has taken the debt fom 10.6T to 15.2T. He has sign the NDAA into law. Yea, um, not the best President.

The debt was exploded by Bush's useless war in Iraq and tax cuts for the wealthy. Way to revise history though.

That's not a defense of Obama those are just the facts. He's not great but no President could fix what the worst President in history did in 3 or 4 years.

Yep that bill Obama signed was disgusting and I'm not going to defend it but where were you when Bush was signing away our rights? Where were you would Bush started a pointless war for oil? Where were the "not racist" Tea Partiers when Bush was ****ing up the world? Do bad policies only concern people when the black guy is President?

 

[Donut]

It's a trap

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/keystone-pipeline-obama-administration_n_1213136.html

It is almost a sure bet that SOPA & PIPA will pass early next year once every ones jobs are secure until the next election. Enjoy the freedom while it lasts guys

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

ahh the irony is perfect

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/pipa-supporters-copyright-violations

 

[enterthemadness]

The increase in the national debt cannot be put squarely on President Obama's shoulders.

It keeps rising and rising. 2015 CBO has it at 17T, 2015 Current Rates has it at near 23T.

And W, yep spot on. Mark Dice, a conspiracy theorist who I follow on Facebook...he's literally asking to be obtained. He isn't afraid to speak his mind. No one should be afraid to voice their opinion. But the NDAA can squash people voicing against the govt.

 

[craigdbfan]

If it hasn't become clear to some folks here because they're so caught up in the Republican/Democrat paradigm there's a single common goal in the highest office and congress regardless of "party".

I mean ask yourselves how much of a difference there's between Clinton, Bush and Obama and you'll find yourself they've all sold out the American people and driven them into a ditch. Each presidential term is appointed the task of dismantling the US for the good of their pockets and foreign interest.

Thank goodness for the Internet and the nuMoney entrepreneurs who now stand as a blockade against this antiquated ideology that can't stand the common man making a comfortable living off the fruits that the internet has provided.

A bunch of greedy clowns all of them. They won't rest until we end up like the poor Chinese class living in cages and working in run down factories for a couple of cents.

 

[enterthemadness]

Where was I? I was in middle school not paying attention. Only 24 man. Bush wasn't good though. Pretty bad when he's known for stupid quotes.

Point is, the debt keeps rising. It's not going down. It won't go down under Obama or Romney.

 

[craigdbfan]

 

[wiegeabo]

Getting back onto the topic,

If SOPA and PIPA get passed