Discussion: Online Piracy, Net Neutrality, Killswitch, and Other Internet Issues

[WildcatNC]

They WILL get one passed. People are to stupid and ADD to keep up a concentrated resistance. They know that.

Sure some of us care but there aren't enough of us in the end.

 

[enterthemadness]

I've had. **** Congress. Seriously. Sharing this sneaky congress news on Facebook.

 

[Hotwire]

They're not going to stop until Big Brother is a full blown reality.

 

[craigdbfan]

This won't work if Google/Youtube & Wikipedia constantly bring it up to the publics attention every time a bill like this is brought into congress.

If it threatens them in anyway they will most likely make people aware of it. I don't see this faring any better than the last two bills.

 

[JMan2003]

Well I found an Online Petition to help against this Censorship Bill, click on the link below:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/?cl=1702181514&v=13511

Under the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), if a cyber threat is even suspected, companies we use to access the Internet will have the right to collect information on our activities, share that with the government, refuse to notify us that we are being watched and then use a blanket immunity clause to protect themselves from being sued for violation of privacy or any other illegal action. It's a crazy destruction of the privacy we all rely on in our everyday emails, Skype chats, web searches and more.

But we know that the US Congress is afraid of the world's response. This is the third time they have tried to rebrand their attempt to attack our Internet freedom and push it through under the radar, each time changing the law's name and hoping citizens would be asleep at the wheel. Already, Internet rights groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation have condemned the bill for its interference with basic privacy rights -- now it's time for us to speak out.

 

[Smashlilman]

Yeah Congress is at it again, they are trying to secretly pass a bill very similiar to SOPA/PIPA into law soon:

http://www.examiner.com/progressive...onal-plan-to-censor-internet-concerns-critics

On a different forum I was surfing through, it turns out that Arizona is also trying to pass an Internet Censorship law as well. More details below:

http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/arizona-law-would-censor-internet-631407

Whether or not If the Arizona bill is as dangerous as the CISPA bill that Congress is trying to pass through is up for debate I suppose.

They will never stop will they.
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Seem like Google can collect all of your info and then the Government can colect all the info from Google under the guise of cyber security. It's basically the Patriot Act for the internet.

 

[enterthemadness]

Over 520,000 have signed the petition that JM posted.

 

[Bim]

Well I found an Online Petition to help against this Censorship Bill, click on the link below:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/?cl=1702181514&v=13511

Under the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), if a cyber threat is even suspected, companies we use to access the Internet will have the right to collect information on our activities, share that with the government, refuse to notify us that we are being watched and then use a blanket immunity clause to protect themselves from being sued for violation of privacy or any other illegal action. It's a crazy destruction of the privacy we all rely on in our everyday emails, Skype chats, web searches and more.

But we know that the US Congress is afraid of the world's response. This is the third time they have tried to rebrand their attempt to attack our Internet freedom and push it through under the radar, each time changing the law's name and hoping citizens would be asleep at the wheel. Already, Internet rights groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation have condemned the bill for its interference with basic privacy rights -- now it's time for us to speak out.

I signed it. It's ridiculous, and i just think they wont stop until they sneak it past people, which is why everyone needs to stay alert with this issue.

 

[Bim]

Heh. I dont want to post the whole thing, but you can read it following the link. This bill is just troubling to me, period. To quote the article: "CISPA currently has over 100 co-sponsors in Congress and 28 corporate supporters (full list), one of which is Facebook."

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/...and-pipa-how-can-facebook-support-cispa/11700

After denouncing SOPA and PIPA, how can Facebook support CISPA?

April 12, 2012, 8:07am PDT

Summary: Facebook did not support the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) nor the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA), but it does support the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA). Here’s why.

 

[JMan2003]

Well here's a new petition against CISPA:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa_corporate_global/?tta

Do what you can and spread the word...

 

[Thundercrack85]

I can't see it being stopped. With total corporate support, there is nothing stopping it. Civil liberties groups have virtually no influence.

 

[JMan2003]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-5...f-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/

Discuss.

 

[Thundercrack85]

This is a novel idea. Back in the day, when people violated your privacy, they did it at their own expense. Now they're making you pay for it.

Though I question how well this will work in practice.

 

[Donut]

Dotcom trial may not occur - Judge

The criminal charges against Kim Dotcom in the United States may never get to trial, the judge overseeing the case has told the FBI.

United States district court judge Liam O'Grady said he didn't know if "we are ever going to have a trial in this matter" after being told Dotcom's file-sharing company had never been formally served with criminal papers by the US.

The comment has been seized on by Dotcom's lawyers, who say it could lead to the extradition case in New Zealand being tossed out.
It follows a paperwork error by New Zealand authorities, who seized Dotcom's property without giving proper notice. The restraining order on his property was finally granted last week.


Megaupload was the world's biggest file-sharing website and claimed it was responsible for 4 per cent of internet traffic.


Dotcom faces a court hearing for extradition to the United States after a warrant was issued for him and six others on criminal copyright charges relating to music and movies on its computer servers.


Lawyers acting for the US have said they will argue Dotcom should be extradited because he was a member of an organised criminal group, which carries a sentence of five years.


The US Government needs to get over the hurdle of a five-year jail sentence to meet the criteria for extradition. Copyright charges in NZ carry a maximum of four years.


Judge O'Grady raised the prospect of there being no trial while hearing arguments over FBI applications to wipe Megaupload's vast database of members' files. He said further study needed to be made of the failure to serve Megaupload, adding; "I frankly don't know that we are ever going to have a trial in this matter."


He said the arguments around the future of the data on the 1100 computers servers seized from Megaupload could be "premature". He wanted more information on why Megaupload had not been served.
The FBI's lack of service meant Megaupload was "kind of hanging out there", Judge O'Grady said.


Dotcom's US-based lawyer, Ira Rothken, said it was the defense's understanding that it was not legally possible for Megaupload to be served with papers accusing it of criminal acts.


He said it would be possible to serve the company with papers for a civil case and - as happened in NZ - for individuals to be remotely charged with crimes.


"My understanding as to why they haven't done that is because they can't. We don't believe Megaupload can be served in a criminal matter because it is not located within the jurisdiction of the United States."


Mr Rothken said he would have expected the FBI to have had the same legal advice, having described the case as the "largest copyright case in the US, which also means the world".


Mr Rothken said a key defence against extradition was the claim by Dotcom and others that they were accused of offenses not covered by the law on extradition.


Prosecutor Jay Prabhu told the Virginia court hearing it might not matter because Dotcom owned 68 per cent of the company.
He said it was not a case of a corporation which might normally turn up. "It's seven people who actually don't want to show up."
Meanwhile, legal negotiations are under way to have jewellery and personal effects belonging to Dotcom's wife, Mona, returned.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10800409

If this never gets to trial. Then the RIAA has to be taken down to size a bit

 

[craigdbfan]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-5...f-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/

Discuss.

That sounds horrible. They have no business doing that.

 

[Victarion]

I couldn't just buy some proxy software like TOR that would let me rustle corporate jimmies?

 

[craigdbfan]

Despite veto threat, House passes cybersecurity bill

The House of Representatives passed on Thursday a controversial cybersecurity bill that would allow private companies to exchange confidential information with the federal government.
The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which is designed to defend U.S. networks against cyber attack, passed the House 248-162. The White House threatened to veto the legislation, saying the bill fails to protect privacy and gives a pass to companies that do not secure networks critical to the nation's security. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) dismissed the Administration's privacy concerns on Thursday.

"Listen, the White House believes the government ought to control the Internet, the government ought to set standards and the government ought to take care of everything that's needed for cybersecurity" Boehner said. "They're in a camp all by themselves because whether it's private industry, whether it's other parts of the government, understand that we can't have the government in charge of our Internet."

Under CISPA, private companies could voluntarily share cyber threat information with other companies and the federal government. In turn, the government could then share classified information on cyber threats with private companies. The participation of private companies would be voluntary. Civil liberty groups have raised concerns. Some contend that the bill gives employers the ability to spy on employees and then share that information with the government in the name of national security.
Industry giants Google, AT&T, and Facebook have expressed support for the bill, which stand to benefit from the increased government oversight.

The Senate has its own cyber security bill sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Susan Collins (R-ME) that would give the administration the power to determine security standards for companies with networks deemed critical to the nation's cyber security. They are expected to take up the legislation next month.

Not all that happy with this but in theory it doesn't sound all that bad at least not as bad as SOPA.

We'll see I guess.

 

[enterthemadness]

President better veto that **** hard.

 

[craigdbfan]

Would that necessarily be better though? Google is supporting this so I don't think it's all that bad. The White House apparently wants something more akin to SOPA with more regulation and control where they would bypass companies like Google completely.

CISPA makes it completely optional and companies like Google don't have to comply with the federal government with information whatsoever. This seems a lot more lenient than the formerly proposed SOPA.

Honestly though I don't want any of these so I wouldn't really shed a tear if CISPA is vetoed.

 

[obin_gam]

for a party that constantly nags on that the dems are limiting and destroying their freedom, they sure do alot themselves to actually remove it.

 

[Scourge2099]

We're just signing away our freedoms one at a time it seems. As long as American Idol , Keeping Up With the Kardashians , The Jersey Shore , etc is on tv the American public could careless. America f*** yeah !

 

[Donut]

President better veto that **** hard.

He won't right now. If Obama passes it & word gets out. That will be the end of his chances for a 2nd term. He will say he will be against it. Only to sign it into law after he is re elected. Or by then something worse gets signed

 

[JMan2003]

CISPA is an Unconstitutional bill that is designed to strip the privacy of Americans abroad. I understand the GOP's concerns about how China is using the Internet to further improve their own economy and country which is a dangerous gamble and that is something we shouldn't allow but not at the cost of stripping the freedom of privacy from Americans who use the Internet.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's terribly sad Americans take freedom on the internet for granted after seeing how essential it can be to the democratic process in other countries.

When your government is moving toward China and Iran's internet policies it's time to wake up.

 

[wiegeabo]

Want to see if your representative voted for CISPA?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h192


I'm pretty upset my rep did, because I wrote him about SOPA and PIPA and he said he was against them because of the threat to our rights.