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Well, at least they didn't invite Cliven Bundy. Perhaps he has a scheduling conflict.
 
Thundercrack85 said:
Well, at least they didn't invite Cliven Bundy. Perhaps he has a scheduling conflict.
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Him and his hired mercenaries (thugs) are too busy patroling his local area and stopping the locals at gunpoint to bother with the GOP conference.
 
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God I hope this blows up in the GOP'S face. This guy only appeals to a group of white christian resnecks...the group that almost always votes GOP when they vote so what exactly is the point of this?
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Because these kind of things rally the base. The point of these things is not to appeal to new groups of people, it's to get their people to go out and vote and bring home the bacon for the party. It's the exact same thing as how Obama and the Democrats use celebrities who say really stupid things such as Whoopi Goldberg, Alec Baldwin, and Gwyneth Paltrow for their purposes. Those people aren't going to appeal to those who aren't snobbish progressives who almost always vote Democratic. But they rally the people who do vote Democratic and bring in the dough.
 
I can tolerate the liberal celebrities. Their dumb **** is usually something environmental or equally harmless. This guy on the other hand is a racist homophobic bigot who neither party should be going anywhere near. Besides the republicans dont need him. They already have the votes of the people that Si will attract. All they are doing now is alientating gays and anyone who cant stand this redneck hillbilly.

Another quaint idea for the GOP: stop associating with rednecks and backwards ass hillbillies. Be a better party. Dont aspire to just scrape the bottom of America's barrel to win every election.
 
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When you appeal to the worst in people, it doesn't look pretty. Right now the Republican Party is the party of fear and loathing. And before someone says I am being hyperbolic please take time to listen to Wayne Lapierre at the NRA convention, attended by mainstream Republican figures. Or watch a couple of hours of Fox News, or listen to ten minutes of Rush Limbaugh. Or watch any political add talking about "Obamacare".
 
Oh I agree. Everytime a GOP congressman opens their mouth it seems to be something about "saving america from imminent destruction", some danger, some socialist, fear, hatred etc. The GOP today is pretty much Chicken Little screaming, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"
 
No respectable party should/would pander to redneck pond scum. That's not scraping the bottom of the barrel, it's digging a hole through the bottom of the barrel and scooping up muck about five feet under that. The idea that people like this somehow represent "real" America is enough to make me want to throw up.
 
Marvolo said:
I can tolerate the liberal celebrities. Their dumb **** is usually something environmental or equally harmless. This guy on the other hand is a racist homophobic bigot who neither party should be going anywhere near. Besides the republicans dont need him. They already have the votes of the people that Si will attract. All they are doing now is alientating gays and anyone who cant stand this redneck hillbilly.

Another quaint idea for the GOP: stop associating with rednecks and backwards ass hillbillies. Be a better party. Dont aspire to just scrape the bottom of America's barrel to win every election.
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No, it's called that you're just simply tolerating it because they're on your side while condemning the other side simply because you don't agree with them. It's extremely hypocritical. Liberal celebrities like Alec Baldwin have used homophobic language, Whoopi Goldberg tried to downplay rape, and Gwyneth Paltrow thinks that it's okay to use the n-word because she hangs out with Beyonce and Jay-Z.

You're right that the GOP doesn't need Phil Roberson, but the man has his uses with his celebrity status and the GOP is taking advantage of it.
 
I question that. You're right, this will probably help them in the short run, but if Republicans ever want to do more than win gerrymandered house seats, or senatorial seats in super red states, they need to move away from people like this, not invite them to their leadership conferences.
 
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I question that. You're right, this will probably help them in the short run, but if Republicans ever want to do more than win gerrymandered house seats, or senatorial seats in super red states, they need to move away from people like this, not invite them to their leadership conferences.
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It's not going to hurt them in the long run because this Duck Dynasty crap is nothing but a fad, people aren't going to remember this when it actually matters. It's a good short term strategy to use people who are currently popular to your advantage, regardless of controversies. Democrats do it. Republicans do it. So I really can't find myself outraged by it. If anything, I find myself far more annoyed by this faux-outrage against Robertson attending the conference.
 
And this is why I hate politicians

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...digs-himself-deeper-and-deeper-over-obamacare

You see, unluckily for McConnell, Kentucky has possibly the best, most popular Obamacare exchange in the country—though nobody calls it an Obamacare exchange, of course, since Obamacare is the work of Satan. It's called Kynect. Everybody loves Kynect. So when McConnell was asked recently if he favored getting rid of Kynect, he had a problem. It's Obamacare, and he's on record favoring the root-and-branch repeal of Obamacare. But Kynect is popular. Nobody wants to see a root-and-branch repeal of Kynect. What to do?

So far, McConnell has taken a creative approach to this dilemma: He basically denies that Kynect has anything to do with Obamacare. McConnell remains in favor of total repeal of Obamacare, but says this wouldn't cause any problems with Kynect. It would just keep motoring along without missing a beat.
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hippie_hunter said:
No, it's called that you're just simply tolerating it because they're on your side while condemning the other side simply because you don't agree with them. It's extremely hypocritical. Liberal celebrities like Alec Baldwin have used homophobic language, Whoopi Goldberg tried to downplay rape, and Gwyneth Paltrow thinks that it's okay to use the n-word because she hangs out with Beyonce and Jay-Z.

You're right that the GOP doesn't need Phil Roberson, but the man has his uses with his celebrity status and the GOP is taking advantage of it.
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I only know about the Paltrow shenanigans. But that woman is a true airhead and at times seems like she's an ET so I dont put much thought into what she says on any given day. She just seems clueless and saying she is a dem is to me like saying a cat is a dem. I doubt that woman even knows anything about politics or the two parties. The Whoopi and Alec thing Ive never heard myself, but I dont doubt it. Whoopi says dumb **** on rhe View and Alec has a temper.

But sides have zero to do with it for me. I dont care if Phil is a republican or anyone for that matter. I do care about the fact he is an intollerant hick. Thats what I take issue with. The fact the GOP is associating with him does lose them points just like if the democrats associated with him would lose them points.

Im registered Unaffiliated because I can find things both parties do that rub me the wrong way. But if I had to pick a side Id have to go with the Dems, because with the GOP there is a legitimate social and health concern imo. Abortion clinics being closed, regulations and oversight programs being scrapped, marriage equality stalling, medical marijuana expansion and research stalling, stem cell research stalling etc. Pretty much, the GOP scares the crap outa me when I stop and think about how much damage they could do to our progress.
 
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Great the NC Republican party is all for the free market having knowledge to decide if something is good or bad.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/05/29/3442741/fracking-north-carolina/

Pro-Fracking Bill Flies Through North Carolina Legislature

The Senate bill includes language that would make it a crime to disclose the chemicals used in fracking. Releasing fracking fluid composition “knowingly or negligently” would be considered a misdemeanor. The bill would also prevent local bans on fracking and reduce groundwater testing in fracking areas. Senate Republicans originally wanted to make it a felony to disclose this information, which would have meant violators could have ended up in jail.
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Yet another win for the Oil industry against the evil American citizens in Louisiana and the free market

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/05/louisiana_house_supports_bill.html

Louisiana House supports bill to nullify levee board lawsuit

The Louisiana House voted with the oil and gas industry Thursday, supporting a bill that seeks to void a lawsuit filed by a New Orleans area levee board against 97 oil and gas companies.

With the 59-39 House vote, the proposal is one step from passage. The Senate-backed bill must return to the Senate for consideration of changes that solidify the bill's intent to kill the lawsuit. Gov. Bobby Jindal supports the measure.
The Southeast Louisiana Flood Protection Authority-East filed a lawsuit against 97 oil and gas companies, alleging their drilling activities damaged Louisiana's coast and vulnerable wetlands.

Lawsuit supporters say the industry hasn't sufficiently been held accountable for the damage done by dredging for canals and pipelines. Critics call it an attack on a valuable state industry, a boon for trial lawyers and a lawsuit that the levee board had no authority to file.

The bill by Sen. Bret Allain, R-Franklin, would define which governmental entities can bring legal claims about management of Louisiana's coastal zones to entities designated in the Coastal Zone Management Act. Levee boards aren't on the list.
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I'm actually a huge supporter of fracking so I don't see how that's a bad thing.
 
hippie_hunter said:
I'm actually a huge supporter of fracking so I don't see how that's a bad thing.
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It's one thing to allow them to frack BUT why make it a criminal offense for anybody who reveals the chemicals they are using. What about the free market deciding stuff(and in order for the market to decide knowing the chemicals they use and testing ground water might help). Isn't making it hard for information get out Big Government at it's worst?
 
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SV Fan said:
Great the NC Republican party is all for the free market having knowledge to decide if something is good or bad.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/05/29/3442741/fracking-north-carolina/
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Glad to know I still have freedom of speech in my state.:o I don't see how this is constitutionally legal. No government can imprison or charge someone for saying something unless it's slander. Disclosing chemicals involved isn't slander. So if I want to disclose the chemicals involved and am under no signed contract to not do so then I don't see how I can be charged for anything.

If fraking is taking place in my state then I have a right to know what is involved in the process. Everyone in my state does.
 
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