Do you accept the theory of evolution?

[Schlosser85]

If an 80% zombie ate my brain, I'd still be dead.

wow. You should be an algebra professor with your grasp of percentages and mathematical facts.

 

[wampa1]

Talking to you is much the same as talking to a small child, so I don't see the need.

You started it.

 

[SuperFerret]

I think the religious demographic has claimed the lion's share of arrogant and condescending behavior.

I see arrogance and condescending behaviour across the board here, but even if what you say is true (though I don't believe it is), does that give atheists an excuse to be arrogant and condescending? If you truly feel that you're right, why taint your argument by being a jerk when you could be diplomatic about it and potentially reach more minds, especially if you see the other side being *******s themselves.

 

[SuperFerret]

I'd rather talk to small children to be honest. At least there's a chance they'll grow out of believing in the ridiculous.

I may be mistaken, but I believe Schlosser's stated before that he's an atheist. Does this mean that the ridiculous thing he believes in is respect?

 

[DBryan]

Okay everybody let's take a step back here!

 

[SuperFerret]

I agree. This is getting heated, and it's becoming difficult to be respectful. I'm gonna give this thread a rest for now.

 

[bunk]

I think it's generally how the argument is conducted that dictates how polite people are with one another; it doesn't have much to do with the actual point of view. The internet isn't the best place to go if you're looking to make judgements about how different groups of people tend to behave. Look to the real world first.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I see arrogance and condescending behaviour across the board here, but even if what you say is true (though I don't believe it is), does that give atheists an excuse to be arrogant and condescending? If you truly feel that you're right, why taint your argument by being a jerk when you could be diplomatic about it and potentially reach more minds, especially if you see the other side being *******s themselves.

I'm not recruiting. Lots of people are stupid. That's just the way the world is. You have a problem with a different breed of atheist. I will not stick my head in the sand though and not call a spade a spade.

 

[moviedoors]

I'm with Patton Oswalt on the respect issue: you don't have to respect anyone's opinion, simply acknowledge it. I acknowledge that there are people who believe in creationism, but I don't have to respect that. Sorry.

 

[Schlosser85]

It's a maturity level thing.

 

[Manic]

Hi, all. Just popping in to remind you guys that having religious beliefs and accepting the theory of evolution aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Let's all take a deep breath everyone.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Hi, all. Just popping in to remind you guys that having religious beliefs and accepting the theory of evolution aren't mutually exclusive concepts.

That's true for some religions, but it is to many. Just go to the Bible Belt. They don't reject evolution because they reject the scientific principals. They don't even care about the science.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Fellow posters, I'm sorry I got worked up. It's kind of hard not to when you get cornered into a position and then gang-beat for voicing out.

Well, what are we talking about when we're talking about drumming beliefs into each other?

This is a discussion on whether or not people accept the theory of evolution.

When someone says, "I don't think we're apes because animals don't have souls", that's... I mean...

Why should that be taken as equally valid as empirical evidence that shows we are apes?

Look this is my last time addressing this with you, but I didn't come in here yelling around my beliefs. The question was "Do you accept the theory of evolution" and I said "Yes - I just don't believe we came from apes. Probably something very similar, (apes and humans might even have come from the same line, but that's not my point) just not 100% apes." It wasn't until a large number of people started talking down to me and condescending and cornering me into a constrained position that I voiced my opinion... and even then I was just gang beat again. And what happened when I told people to stop? I got an infraction.

I think the religious demographic has claimed the lion's share of arrogant and condescending behavior.

Except that in this case I was the one under fire. Hell I don't even consider myself "wholly religious". I believe in a balance of science and religion.

Let's all take a deep breath everyone.

Nice to see you're giving the right people infractions, eh?

I'd rather talk to small children to be honest. At least there's a chance they'll grow out of believing in the ridiculous.

 

[Manic]

That's true for some religions, but it is to many. Just go to the Bible Belt. They don't reject evolution because they reject the scientific principals. They don't even care about the science.

Who exactly is "They"? Because I've met people from the Bible Belt who believe the theory of evolution.

 

[DBryan]

Nobody should be getting infractions, but obviously this isn't my house.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Who exactly is "They"? Because I've met people from the Bible Belt who believe the theory of evolution.

Usually if you are in the least bit spiritual, you get burned at the stake, even if you do believe in evolution. Hell, I said I believe in 99% of the theory of evolution, and it lead to people talking about "Bible Thumpers". I'm not even a Christian.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Who exactly is "They"? Because I've met people from the Bible Belt who believe the theory of evolution.

Evangelicals.

 

[Heretic]

I used to doubt the theory of evolution...and in fact it was someone on this website that led me to the truth. It was like Carchardon or something like that that educated me/led me to evidence.

Evolution happens. It's just a fact.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Usually if you are in the least bit spiritual, you get burned at the stake, even if you do believe in evolution. Hell, I said I believe in 99% of the theory of evolution, and it lead to people talking about "Bible Thumpers". I'm not even a Christian.

The only person, other than you, who spoke of Bible thumpers in this topic was Schlosser, and that was in a post agreeing with you.

I am spiritual and make no qualms about it. I have no fear of stating such, even though I assure you that I write this whilst wearing nothing but a garment of dry reeds held together by pitch. I have stated such in the Atheism topic and wasn't attacked for it. I don't anticipate being attacked for stating such in this topic, because I have never been attacked for it on the Hype, despite that being "burned at the stake" is how people who self-identify as spiritual are "usually" treated.

The martyr act gets old fast, and the way you're playing it now makes you come across as either delusional or disingenuous. This topic seems to make you too emotional for your own good.

 

[Teezy]

Yes because I prefer it due to there being logical evidence being applied as opposed to an book written by overwhelmingly superstitious people a long time ago. Faith is fine if you want it, but it's all about the *faith* (believing without seeing) and that enough should make it invalid, at least on the point of teaching it in school. Also if you were to allow creationism to be taught in schools, wouldn't it only be fair to teach every possible version of it? Would seem awfully biased if you only taught the Christian way, gotta give credit to other religions and such.

By the way, first post.

 

[Hobgoblin]

My opinion on teaching Creationism in public school is: If it absolutely must be that way, fine. But to be fair, if intelligent design is to be taught in a biology classroom, then evolutionary biology should be taught in Sunday school and private, religious institutions.


I wonder what proponents of intel design in bio classes would say to that.

 

[WildcatNC]

I don't believe in evolution, nor gravity. *runs and jumps off roof*

 

[Sun_Down]

My opinion is that it shouldn't be taught in public schools at all. It has no grounding in biology whatsoever. It could be discussed in a biology class, or maybe a class on philosophy/history, but we're teaching science here. Every other subject taught in science/math classes is subject to a very rigorous standard of objectivity and peer review. To teach intelligent design as a peer to those subjects would be doing violence to the entire idea of empirical study.

Tolerating different religious views =/= compromising the education of our children.

 

[Tanin]

I'll believe in evolution until a scientist finds a better theory and proves evolution wrong. Just like all other scientific theories.