Do you accept the theory of evolution?

[childeroland]

What about the fact that there were experiments done on Flies, where scientests tried to mutate them into permanent eyelessness and after many generations they couldn't?

Scientists can turn on and off the fly's master control gene for the compound eye, resulting in eyelessness. They've also discovered mutant flies with no eyes whose eye master control gene are a mutant form of the master control eye gene in normal flies. It turns out the normal gene can be mutated to produce eyelessness but still produces a protein that appears to turn other genes on and off in order to start the process of making eyes in subsequent generations. This gene is homologous to genes in humans and mice, and mutations in the gene produces similar results to mutations in eye control genes in humans and mice. The mouse counterpart of the eyeless gene -- that is, the mutated and normal master control gene -- also causes eye formation when it is put into fruit flies. The similarity in eye master control genes in different species suggests that they share a distant common ancestor.

 

[Lighthouse]

What is the Difference between a Theory and a Hypothesis?

A hypothesis attempts to answer questions by putting forth a plausible explanation that has yet to be rigorously tested. A theory, on the other hand, has already undergone extensive testing by various scientists and is generally accepted as being an accurate explanation of an observation. This doesn’t mean the theory is correct; only that current testing has not yet been able to disprove it, and the evidence as it is understood, appears to support it.

Another point:

Scientific law is "what happens".
Scientific theory is "why it happens".

 

[Dr.]

What is the Difference between a Theory and a Hypothesis?



Another point:

Scientific law is "what happens".
Scientific theory is "why it happens".

There’s an additional misconception that hypothesis, theory and law exist on a continuum of certainty. I.e., a good “hypothesis” will graduate to “theory” status and a good theory will eventually be promoted to a “law.” This is wrong. As you point out, “theory” and “law” are qualitatively different things. No matter how robust a theory, it will never become a law. The only thing that can supplant an old theory is a new/better theory.

 

[Alpha Born]

I don't believe in evolution because if I do I would have to believe in spontaneous generation. And spontaneous generation is impossible.

 

[KalMart]

I don't believe in evolution because if I do I would have to believe in spontaneous generation. And spontaneous generation is impossible.

Explain what you mean by spontaneous generation.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I imagine he means abiogenesis.

 

[Alpha Born]

Explain what you mean by spontaneous generation.

Spontaneous Generation - the belief that life can arise from non-living matter.

 

[Shemtov]

*scrolling around the Hype, see a thread called, "Do you accept the theory of evolution?". Stop everything...*

Hold on, wait a second here...this is still up for debate? People still call this a theory? Folks, this is the 21st Century. This isn't a theory, ladies and gentlemen. It's a proven fact. Period. You may stop you're internal dialog now, "But, but, omg, look at all the stuff we don't know and how it's not mentioned in the Bible or religious texts, and it just doesn't make any sense to me" blahblahblah SHUT UP. You. Are. Wrong. OK? OK.

What other option is there to believe in this day and age? People still don't think a big invisible guy wearing a toga throwing lightning created us in his spare time when he's not chasing after another guy with a goatee wearing red spandex holding a pitchfork, do they?

This is science, people. Well-funded creationists (i.e. THE CHURCH) had it's turn to run the world, and it was called the Dark Ages. They also instilled in our population (with fear) that our planet was not only flat, but the center of the Universe. There was also this silly little thing called Witch Hunting, where hundreds of thousands of women were tortured and killed for no reason.

And I know what you are gonna say, "It's not been proven, you are just saying what other people have told you, just like Creationists." Wanna prove Evolution is real? Go to backyard and dig a hole. A big one. You will find fossils. More proof? How about a Museum? A big building FILLED with stuff about evolution.

I refuse to vote in this thread. Evolution isn't a theory. It's fact. Your thumbs that you will use to type a message arguing my point just further validates it. Thank You.

.....You didn't know we existed? Have you been living under a rock or are you a troll?

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I don't believe in evolution because if I do I would have to believe in spontaneous generation. And spontaneous generation is impossible.

I'd rather read that than being blind....
You don't believe something that is proven because you would have to believe something which is the total opposite ?
I don't believe that iron exist because I would have to believe adamantium exist.

 

[Dr.]

I don't believe in evolution because if I do I would have to believe in spontaneous generation. And spontaneous generation is impossible.

Evolution doesn't "believe" in spontaneous generation either. Problem solved!

 

[KalMart]

Spontaneous Generation - the belief that life can arise from non-living matter.

Because it took millions of years for it to some about and start as very simple cellular organisms...it didn't just happen in a flash...and bang, a cow. Now you can try to recreate it and wait out the millions of years that it took, just like you can wait out the collection of space debris into what would eventually become a planet...or you can look at the sound, corroborated science that shows that it's not as simplistic as you're trying to make it out to be.

There's certainly more evidence and supporting material for evolution than there is for some sort of magical intelligent design...who itself made it from who knows what. Creationists who spread such ignorance should realize the disservice to humanity that they're propagating.

 

[Devil-In]

.....You didn't know we existed? Have you been living under a rock or are you a troll?

I do live under a rock, yes, but I don't follow what you mean by "you didn't know we existed". Who's "we"? People? I know people exist, I am one. Are YOU a troll?

 

[Shemtov]

I do live under a rock, yes, but I don't follow what you mean by "you didn't know we existed". Who's "we"? People? I know people exist, I am one. Are YOU a troll?

People who don't believe in evolution.

 

[Devil-In]

People who don't believe in evolution.

OH! Silly me. Sorry, my bad. No, I knew you folks existed, I grew up in the Bible Belt for God's Sake (no pun intended), I just thought you all, by now, would've crawled out from underneath YOUR rocks, that's all.

I mean no disrespect, really. Like I said, I grew up in the Bible belt, I'm used to this particular mode of thinking. I just don't, never have, and never will, understand why you folks choose to believe the exact opposite of what we know is true. If that's what you wanna believe, I am no one to judge you, so you go right ahead, knock yourself out.

Literally. Please. It'll make the world a happier place for us all.

 

[Alpha Born]

I'd rather read that than being blind....
You don't believe something that is proven because you would have to believe something which is the total opposite ?

No. Evolution hasn't been proven. It's still just a theory.

I don't believe that iron exist because I would have to believe adamantium exist.

Com'on now, that was weak. You can actually see iron but you can't see evolution. Nobody has ever witnessed a species evolve into a completely different species. So that was a bad comparison.

 

[Alpha Born]

Because it took millions of years for it to some about and start as very simple cellular organisms...it didn't just happen in a flash...and bang, a cow. Now you can try to recreate it and wait out the millions of years that it took, just like you can wait out the collection of space debris into what would eventually become a planet...or you can look at the sound, corroborated science that shows that it's not as simplistic as you're trying to make it out to be.

There's certainly more evidence and supporting material for evolution than there is for some sort of magical intelligent design...who itself made it from who knows what. Creationists who spread such ignorance should realize the disservice to humanity that they're propagating.

Ok then prove that Spontaneous Generation is possible. I'll wait.

 

[KalMart]

Ok then prove that Spontaneous Generation is possible.

Again, what exactly is your impression of this so-called 'Spontaneous Generation'....and what proof do you have of anything outside of evolution? And if your stance is against 'something coming from nothing'...what else was it before it became something...the figment of some great designer's imagination? Please.

Evolution is a fact, plain and simple. Some of the exact details of certain aspects are still theoretical...like did something take 4 million or 5 million years, or exactly what climate shifts happened when, etc.. But it did happen.

I'll wait.

Do you believe that land masses move and planets form over millions of years? You'd have to wait a long time to see that proven as well. You have to realize that the burden is on you to step up and understand it...not for it to reduce to your level or whatever ignorance you're clinging to. Otherwise, you could be 'waiting' your entire life.

 

[Dr.]

Again, what exactly is your impression of this so-called 'Spontaneous Generation'....

He needs to define his terms. “Spontaneous generation,” per se, is universally rejected (it was decisively repudiated by Louis Pasteur in the 1850s).

 

[Marvolo]

Not accepting evolution because of something that has been rejected by evolutionists since 1850.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Here's the thing. Let's say you don't believe in evolution. You're one of those people who say "it's just a theory". Fine. Then what do you believe? And what science do you base it on?

The intelligent design movement (rather wisely) spends most of its time arguing about evolution, and spreading falsehoods about. They rarely if ever actually states what they believe.

So, let's hear it.

 

[Marvolo]

Here's the thing. Let's say you don't believe in evolution. You're one of those people who say "it's just a theory". Fine. Then what do you believe? And what science do you base it on?

The intelligent design movement (rather wisely) spends most of its time arguing about evolution, and spreading falsehoods about. They rarely if ever actually states what they believe.

So, let's hear it.

They believe in the 6 days of creation, 1 day of rest, and in most cases 6,000 year old earth. I know creationists who refuse to accept dinosaurs. They flat out reject them. I know some who ignore them. They say their faith cancels out the need for proof. Ive had creationists say that dinosaurs are an attempt by satan to lead us from the path and truth of God's word.

Oh and can i just say im tired of the question "Do you believe in evolution?" Evolution like any science doesnt need someone's belief. You examine the facts and data and accept the correct conclusion. Belief doesnt factor into the equation at all. People's beliefs dont change fact. It is a case of what you believe isnt the same as what is real. You can believe that evolution is false but it doesnt make it any less scientifically sound. Id really love people to stop asking peoples beliefs on scientific matters. Ask them whether they accept logic, reason, and evidence or whether they believe in magic. That is the only real question here.

 

[Piper Maru]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Evolution explains how life diversifies, not how it began. Why is this even up for debate?
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[KalMart]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Evolution explains how life diversifies, not how it began. Why is this even up for debate?
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How life began is equally scientific and natural, and non-designed as well.

 

[Piper Maru]

I couldn't agree more with you.

 

[Marvolo]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Evolution explains how life diversifies, not how it began. Why is this even up for debate?
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People are always confusing issues. Evolution, beginning of life on this planet, and the big bang all get lumped in together or confused despite their obvious distinctions.