Comics Does anyone remember?

[Kirk Langstrom]

Do you remember the days when you could pick up a spidey comic and read a quick stoy and enjoy it? Not every book had a major impact on the character and where he was going. Just a quick story maybe he fights electro and JJ complains about him.

You mean like the past year or so of Sensational and Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man?

Yes, i remember that quite well....

 

[venom892]

Sensational and FN were pretty underrated.Such good spidey stories.

 

[JayTee]

You mean like the past year or so of Sensational and Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man?

Yes, i remember that quite well....

Really? Cuz what I saw from picking em up in the store was a 22 page set up. It used to take the Lizard 1 page to turn into the lizard and Spider-Man 2 pages to be somewhere, drop what he's doing, and zoom over there.

Writing for the trades has to die.

I got Dini's Detective run in a trade, and get this, I got SIX Batman stories. Much more fullfilling than a trade of Marvel where a splash page is used to say "wha..?" or "The hell?".

 

[Norman Osborn]

Really? Cuz what I saw from picking em up in the store was a 22 page set up. It used to take the Lizard 1 page to turn into the lizard and Spider-Man 2 pages to be somewhere, drop what he's doing, and zoom over there.

Writing for the trades has to die.

I got Dini's Detective run in a trade, and get this, I got SIX Batman stories. Much more fullfilling than a trade of Marvel where a splash page is used to say "wha..?" or "The hell?".

I won't say so much Senstional as I wasn't a huge fan but the last year or so of FNSM was off the hook strong.......The last several arcs were about classic Spidey villains, Vulture, Mysterio, Sandman, and also reintroduced us to many of Pete's supporting cast including Flash, Betty, and Debra Whitman.....none of the arcs went past 3 issues and were far from padded or written for trade.....I thought the the Taking Wing arc was the strongest Spidey story I had read since the Hydra arc in ASM.......

 

[3dman27]

Writing for the trades has to die.

thats afirmative

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Really? Cuz what I saw from picking em up in the store was a 22 page set up. It used to take the Lizard 1 page to turn into the lizard and Spider-Man 2 pages to be somewhere, drop what he's doing, and zoom over there.

Writing for the trades has to die.

I got Dini's Detective run in a trade, and get this, I got SIX Batman stories. Much more fullfilling than a trade of Marvel where a splash page is used to say "wha..?" or "The hell?".

Cool. Dini's Batman bores me.

I keep trying to get back into Batman comics, but so far, nothing grabs me...

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

I miss self contained stories... We should get more of those and a bit (By a bit I mean a LOT) less of those Universe core shattering big-assed events to be retconned byt the next bigger-assed event... I can bet you that ONE Stan Lee Issue would be stretched up to 12 current Marvel issues...

 

[3dman27]

well put doc

 

[venom892]

Cool. Dini's Batman bores me.

I keep trying to get back into Batman comics, but so far, nothing grabs me...

Really I love din's run so far.Did you read the two issue zatanna story or the joker/robin issue?

 

[daveswb]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that feels this way. I read something the other day that made me sad. Joe Q's biggest claim to fame was the Trade Paperback sales at Marvel. He pushed getting Trabe PBs out so that Marvel could sell thier books in more places like regular book stores. Which majorly boosted sales. So he pushes for the multiple big cross over stories so he can sell more Trade PBs. I just thought of it as another example of sacrificing art for the sake of buisness.

I'm not against the ocassinal big event. But doing it so often they become balzah. You get through the fith or so big life changing event and you go, oh ok, that was dumd. It's like the norm for the characters now is to always expect the unexpected. So that in itself becomes boring and no longer fun. You know what I mean? If Kenny dies in every episode, eventually it isn't funny anymore. If everytime you read a spidey isasue his life changes eventually he no longer has a life anyone cares about.

 

[JayTee]

I'd personally attribute Witchblade to being the dawn of the one story trade format. That first story memorized me when I bought it in trade. It felt like a movie in my hands or something and it got to take its time and stretch the art a bit. It's been done to death now though and it's gotten to the point where 6 issues feels like less than half an issue. Nothing happens.

Oh another thing that bugs me is that since there are 4 5 and 6 issue arcs, you onoly get 2, MAYbe 3 stories in a YEAR! At Marvel lately, editorial mandate makes everything crossover for their events too, so really you're getting 2 stories a year and one of them is interrupted for crossover nonsense.

That's not comic books.

 

[JayTee]

Actually, my solution is this. I'm working on a comic right now of my own and my ultimate goal is to have the first story be a 100 page Graphic Novel to get things off the ground in an epic way. Then everything after will be single issues in the vein of Stan and Jacks FF. Perhaps once every year or 2 years another GN will come out.

This would be a good way fore the industry to run. It's almost like an expanded version of the Mon-Sat Funnies and The Sunday Strip being the big "lookitme!" one.

 

[3dman27]

I'd personally attribute Witchblade to being the dawn of the one story trade format. That first story memorized me when I bought it in trade. It felt like a movie in my hands or something and it got to take its time and stretch the art a bit. It's been done to death now though and it's gotten to the point where 6 issues feels like less than half an issue. Nothing happens.

Oh another thing that bugs me is that since there are 4 5 and 6 issue arcs, you onoly get 2, MAYbe 3 stories in a YEAR! At Marvel lately, editorial mandate makes everything crossover for their events too, so really you're getting 2 stories a year and one of them is interrupted for crossover nonsense.

That's not comic books.

i concur