Does Size Really Matter?

[Mentok]

And we are back to anal sex... God I love this place

 

[THWIP*]

And we are back to anal sex... God I love this place

LOOK AT MY THREAD TITLE.........WAS THERE REALLY EVER ANY DOUBT IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS ?

 

[Manny Calavera]

Clint was just talking about sticking things into my butt on AIM a few minutes earlier. This place is getting more and more creepy

 

[Mentok]

LOOK AT MY THREAD TITLE.........WAS THERE REALLY EVER ANY DOUBT IT WOULD BE LIKE THIS ?

Hehehehehe... Good point.

 

[Danalys]

Sorry, it was just a way to try and avoid the higher taxes of consoles.

They tried it with the PS2 also.

you should be sorry. being incorrect is definitely something you should be sorry for.

sony's stratergy is to apeal to both techies and average people. the average will pay over the odds in the main giving the techies something on the cheap that would normally cost more. in return the techies create programs that anyone can use if they wish. everyones happy. in spreading linux with a decent frontend they will reeducate millions to a new standard. suddenly microsofts programs aren't the defacto standard that they were. there is true competion is computing and customers win in that case. computers aren't accelerating ahead just to play the next game anymore, so people only have to upgade for actual computer usage. every one wins.

 

[THWIP*]

you should be sorry. being incorrect is definitely something you should be sorry for.

sony's stratergy is to apeal to both techies and average people. the average will pay over the odds in the main giving the techies something on the cheap that would normally cost more. in return the techies create programs that anyone can use if they wish. everyones happy. in spreading linux with a decent frontend they will reeducate millions to a new standard. suddenly microsofts programs aren't the defacto standard that they were. there is true competion is computing and customers win in that case. computers aren't accelerating ahead just to play the next game anymore, so people only have to upgade for actual computer usage. every one wins.

ROTFLMFAO........YOU REALLY SHOULD GET A JOB WITH SONY.

 

[Brainiac 8]

ROTFLMFAO........YOU REALLY SHOULD GET A JOB WITH SONY.

But Thwip, then he'll get brainwashed....oh wait.

 

[Danalys]

can't argue against my points.

 

[THWIP*]

can't argue against my points.

LOL........NO, I WOULDN'T BOTHER ARGUING AGAINST YOUR POINTS.......YOU'RE ATE UP WITH THE DUMBASSES AS BAD AS 'ZENIEN'.

 

[Danalys]

yeah i wouldn't bother arguing with someone who would win easily either. i've never come across that circumstance tho.

 

[Manny Calavera]

Given your inability to spell "though", your inability to write posts in such a way that people can actually understand them, and your general hate of facts and things that are right, I really doubt that.

 

[Danalys]

ever thought it was your reading skills that were faulty, or that you should ask what someone ment in a way that would actually reveal their meaning. you know, rather than just remain ignorant. i love facts when then are used logically. i hate disingenious use of them; something you do often. or you just lie. you're generally just not very good at much. other than nitpicking spelling.

also though, ever heard of short hand.

 

[Brainiac 8]

It's not just your spelling, but your grammer, and how you relay your messages.

Most of what you have posted does not make any sort of sense at all.
Especially your bull about the PS3 being a computer, you used words to try and make yourself seem smart, but all it did was show that you just defend regardless of facts presented, and you'll say whatever to make it seem like you know what your talking about.

 

[Manny Calavera]

ever thought it was your reading skills that were faulty, or that you should ask what someone ment in a way that would actually reveal their meaning. you know, rather than just remain ignorant. i love facts when then are used logically. i hate disingenious use of them; something you do often. or you just lie. you're generally just not very good at much. other than nitpicking spelling.

My reading skills?

pay over the odds in the main

Nope, the thought never really crossed my mind after reading that, sorry.

The rest of your post was good though, very factual and stuff. Yes, I am totally "lying" and all about "disingenious use of facts" and all that. Couldn't just be that the facts usually disagree with you and the rest of the sony stooges, causing you to just refuse to acknowledge them, oh no, that's impossible.

As for linux overtaking Windows because of the PS3 - Ha! Before I go any further, it's important that you note that you're talking to a HUGE Linux fanboy. I have Ubuntu 6.06 on my harddrive right now, and even participated in it's development stages within the community. And trust me, if Ubuntu doesn't crack the Windows monopoly, nothing will, especially not some crappy little PS3 frontend that will see support from virtually no one in the open source community. Debian and Ubuntu guys would never touch it, the package lists are too fragmented between various architectures as it is, the Gentoo guys wouldn't be seen dead using a console for a computer, Red Hat and Novell (SUSe) won't bother because it's not in their target market, Lindows is barely a linux distro at all, etc etc. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if entire desktop systems forsake the PS3. Don't expect to see GNOME or KDE running flawlessly on your ps3 anytime soon, and certainly not with any compiz or xgl support. So yeah, your logic of "I want PS3's support of linux to mean something, so I'll make some stuff up and then believe it" fails

 

[Axid]

lol..."ment"

 

[Avalanche]

Oh come on guys. I'm not a fan of text talk either. It strikes me as lazy when it really doesn't take much effort to write properly, but there's no need to jump down on someone for it. We all have our different ways.

 

[Danalys]

"pay over the odds in the main" means they take the brunt of the cost.

see you could have asked but you didn't. that'll be why you keep on believing you're right when your not. you don't ask the right questions of the right people.

about the spread of linux as a viable theory. it's not the current generation this is about. it's about the next generation. it's about getting them intrested and used to a particular OS. much like microsoft did with windows. the homebrew scene for the PSP is massive. linux makes things even easier. software is portable to wildly different systems if people want to. no other linux distribution will be in as many homes as the PS3s version will be. it'd illiminate the need for dual booting, which messes up your multitasking really.

companies have long term stratagies and short term tactics. you seem to think they would use the same tactic repeatedly. people don't get to the top doing that.

 

[Danalys]

Oh come on guys. I'm not a fan of text talk either. It strikes me as lazy when it really doesn't take much effort to write properly, but there's no need to jump down on someone for it. We all have our different ways.

i actually find it difficult because i think far faster than any one could ever type. i also think audibly first. which makes me very good in real life conversations. i could recheck after but that is reptative and would train me to be a pedantic bore, stuck in one way of doing things.

 

[Manny Calavera]

A couple of points.
One, going back into the context of your original post, with your newly supplied meaning, you said "the average consumer will bear the brunt of the huge cost of the PS3". Quite a selling point. As for why I don't ask for an explanation of your crazy moonman gibberish, it's because, as you've just shown, I'd get an explanation....in crazy moonman gibberish. So it's kind of almost useless, you see?

Anyways, as per usual, you were wrong about virtually everything you wrote about. No, it's not about "the next generation", that's ******ed. It's about "the next generation" when you aren't number one, or you're entering a new market, and you're trying to establish yourself as a viable competitor to boost your numbers next time. If you're already number one, it's about the here and now, about not falling off from that spot, something Sony has been doing a poor job of so far. As for getting people "interested" and "used to a particuliar OS"...how? Nothing useful for Linux will ever make it to the PS3! Nothing. Before we go any further, it is important that you understand that. Take as much time as you need, read it over as many times as needed, until you grasp that fact. Nothing useful from the linux community will ever make it over to the ps3. It will not happen. So no, it's not going to get people "used to" a particuliar OS, because you aren't going to be able to use the OS. Without GNOME/KDE/xfcl/some other desktop system, Linux is just a command line that you can't really do much with besides host some files on a network. Wow, real interesting, I can't wait to see how many people get "used to" Linux by hosting files on their network with their game console. Are you ****ing serious?

 

[Axid]

the homebrew scene for the PSP is massive. linux makes things even easier.

That's because all the software sucks

 

[Danalys]

so you're assuming no frontend then. what an assumption to make. you presume them not smart enough to do that. no wonder you think they are stupid. circular arguement tho.

compilers have been worked on for a while already. with those in place some functionality will come. there are always the people who like a challenge aswell. who no matter how difficult, will get something working. with the OS and harddisk as standard the flood gate are open. people have always taken the opertunities before. turning x-boxes into media centers for example. they'll take the opertunity again. there is no reason why they wouldn't

sony aren't number one in computing. this is a strategy for entering a new market and iliminating a competitor. but it wont work if the competitor is good enough. this is were competition comes into play. both companies eventually give the consumer base more options. this is why buying an x-box was smart.

average joes pay over the odds for everything because they lack patience. every one i know has a 200 pound cell phone. people like style status symbols. they try to be first to get them. these things aren't going to change any time soon. then parents will be swayed with educational programs. much like the ds is doing.

 

[Danalys]

That's because all the software sucks

people like to have their favorite programs in a portable package. some coders do things for themself in their own free time and then might aswell let other people use it.

there's also the "can it be done" factor.

 

[Manny Calavera]

so you're assuming no frontend then. what an assumption to make. you presume them not smart enough to do that. no wonder you think they are stupid. circular arguement tho.

No, I'm not assuming anything, I know that the PS3 won't be getting any linux support from the community. I participate in that community fairly regularly, and I've seen some very high up people in that community, head developers on teams that put out things like firefox, gaim, open office, ubuntu, gimp, stuff the open source community depends on, saying "no, we aren't bothering with PS3 support". Will it have a desktop system? Yes. Will it be any good, or anywhere close to what GNOME or KDE could give you? Absolutely not. Will it have any software? Absolutely not. Are you totally wrong, again? Absolutely.

compilers have been worked on for a while already. with those in place some functionality will come. there are always the people who like a challenge aswell. who no matter how difficult, will get something working. with the OS and harddisk as standard the flood gate are open. people have always taken the opertunities before. turning x-boxes into media centers for example. they'll take the opertunity again. there is no reason why they wouldn't

Wow, they have a compiler, something that anything that executes any kind of code needs, wow, I can see I was wrong. You *really* don't have a clue about any of this stuff, do you?

sony aren't number one in computing. this is a strategy for entering a new market and iliminating a competitor. but it wont work if the competitor is good enough. this is were competition comes into play. both companies eventually give the consumer base more options. this is why buying an x-box was smart.

iliminating? I don't even know if I should bother anymore. No, they aren't "entering a new market", the entire point of Microsoft entering the console market was that what Sony was doing was actually moving towards a product that would obsolete PC a lot of Microsoft's core business and essentially lock them out of the living room, Sony moving into the OS market would be really dumb and a HUGE step back for them. It's not happening. I'm sorry that this fantasy you made up to help support your wild fanboy notions that Sony is the white knight in shining armor come to help all consumers is wrong, but yeah, it's wrong.

average joes pay over the odds for everything because they lack patience. every one i know has a 200 pound cell phone. people like style status symbols. they try to be first to get them. these things aren't going to change any time soon. then parents will be swayed with educational programs. much like the ds is doing.

Worst argument ever. 'People will pay out the ass for a game console, because they pay for things that are a status symbol'. I'm sorry if your universe really is this small and sad, but the game console you own really doesn't matter to most people. Carrying a PS3 controller isn't the same as wearing Gucci and driving a $500,000 car. It boggles the mind that you would even suggest that.

 

[Danalys]

part of sony's initial push was in making games far more stylish to certain people. those with disposible incomes. also the kind of people with brand loyalty. it's a brilliant tactic. why do you think fan boys are always on about "my console or computers better than yours." it's a status symbol to alot of people. plain and simple.

your not working with the people who will make the difference. your working with people that are going to be left behind. that if what you say is even true.

source code would just have to be recompiled. later optimisations for speed would help. but that's for later versions of the software to be compiled. translate the compilers from PC to PS3 and at least you get something up and running in most cases.

 

[Manny Calavera]

The entire linux community will be left behind? Mark Shuttleworth, Sun Microsystems, ****ing Google guys will be "left behind"? Hahahaha, wow. THIWP was right, most of your posts could double as an application for a PR job within sony. No, games aren't a "status symbol" to anyone who has any social status to begin with. If you ever walked into a club, or hell, most schools, a grocery store, anywhere, and said "hey you, ladies....I have a ....PS3", there'd be a lot more laughing than swooning and general amazement. But hey, if you want to pretend that Sony is somehow going to take their console from 'thing that plays games' to "status symbol", be my guest, wouldn't be the first time you decided to believe something amazingly stupid. And no, there is a lot more to it than just recompiling source code. Once again, "you really don't know anything about this stuff, do you?"