Dr. Gordon Returns to Saw 7

[LastSunrise1981]

Even though I do like the Saw movies, I'm still skeptical about this one because I loathe 3D in movies.

Yeah, I won't be watching it in 3D. I refuse to watch it in 3D since the others weren't in that format. I'll stick to watching the 2D format and will most likely purchase the 2D version of the DVD.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah, I won't be watching it in 3D. I refuse to watch it in 3D since the others weren't in that format. I'll stick to watching the 2D format and will most likely purchase the 2D version of the DVD.

Doesn't 2d come along with 3d? atleast it has in the few movies I bought.

 

[Mace Dolex]

@Mace- While that is true, remember how they managed to keep Donnie Wahlberg's appearance in Saw 3 a secret? I think Cary's involvement should've been a surprise.

His appearance was kept a secret? I just thought people wrote him off as having died in Saw 2 after all we're talking about Donnie Wahlberg here.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

His appearance was kept a secret? I just thought people wrote him off as having died in Saw 2 after all we're talking about Donnie Wahlberg here.

I'm sure alot thought that of Gordon. Cause I mean how long could you possible last, having cut your foot off and bleeding to death. But I guess were see how he survived.

 

[bullets]

Anyone believe they should've kept this secret? I think Lionsgate made a mistake by confirming Cary's involvement instead of having it as a surprise.

I think he will be part of the main cast so his involvement might not be too much of a spoiler if he is part of the group of survivors. If it was a reveal at the end it would of been a major mistake.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

His appearance was kept a secret? I just thought people wrote him off as having died in Saw 2 after all we're talking about Donnie Wahlberg here.

Yep, Donnie Wahlberg, Lionsgate, and Darren Lynn Bousman at the time created a hoax saying that Donnie wouldn't be involved due to creative differences.

Since his performance in Saw 2 was pretty well received and the character was well received as well, fans were trying to dig up details as to whether or not he'd be in Saw 3. Needless to say once the opening of Saw started and we saw Donnie it was a surprise.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Doesn't 2d come along with 3d? atleast it has in the few movies I bought.

Yes, some of them do. But I'll just watch the 2d version of the DVD and not waste my time with 3d. I just think the concept has gotten out of hand and being an employee at a movie theatre, I am going to be disappointed if it only comes in 3D.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

i think it will be revealed that Dr. Gordon was involved with Jigsaw's traps/killings since the very beginning

it's gonna be cool to see him back

 

[hippie_hunter]

I'm just glad that under Kevin Greutert, Lionsgate is giving a damn about making a movie that didn't suck (The third one was mediocre, and the fourth and fifth ones kinda sucked).

 

[Matt]

So who else would be part of that survivor group other than him?

Aside from Detective Matthews' son and Jeff from Saw 1, I can't think of any other survivors.

 

[Steyin]

Aside from Detective Matthews' son and Jeff from Saw 1, I can't think of any other survivors.

The girl who cut her arm off from 6, plus all the others who survived the game, assuming they were let out or somehow escaped from that place.
Also, Brit from V (not sure if Mallick survived with all his blood loss). I can't think of anyone else.

 

[marvelman2006]

I like saw and all but 5 and 6 sucked and I think these movies work better as weekly tv show episodes, sort of like a 8 or 10 part miniseries on HBO so we can keep the blood and deaths. It makes me angry after a while knowing each movie just leads into another, sort of the like dangle the carrot thing. at least if it was a tv show then we could watch them better.

 

[KenK]

i think it will be revealed that Dr. Gordon was involved with Jigsaw's traps/killings since the very beginning

He agreed to cut off his own foot?!? I'd say that's THE MOST a Jigsaw apprentice has had to do to prove themselves! It certainly wasn't planned for Amanda to get thrown into a pit of hypodermic needles in the second film!

 

[LastSunrise1981]

He agreed to cut off his own foot?!? I'd say that's THE MOST a Jigsaw apprentice has had to do to prove themselves! It certainly wasn't planned for Amanda to get thrown into a pit of hypodermic needles in the second film!

Anything is possible. Perhaps he wanted to prove himself to Jigsaw that he had what it took to carry on his legacy? Although if that's the case it'd be interesting to see the dynamic between him and Hoffman.

But who knows.

 

[Matt]

If Gordon is an apprentice, I think its more likely that he became such AFTER cutting off his foot. Otherwise, you've basically taken all tension and meaning out of the first movie.

That said, I think this franchise should begin and end with Gordon. Let him kill Hoffman, take the mantle himself and end it.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

If Gordon is an apprentice, I think its more likely that he became such AFTER cutting off his foot. Otherwise, you've basically taken all tension and meaning out of the first movie.

That said, I think this franchise should begin and end with Gordon. Let him kill Hoffman, take the mantle himself and end it.

If Gordon is an apprentice would make Tapp look like a total fool that Gordon was right there in front of him. Honestly I hope they keep all of the pictures locked tight in security. I don't want to see what Gordon looks like or what Hoffman looks like.

I'd like to think Gordon probably looks more hardened now(obviously) and I think they should have his appearance still be a surprise though.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

First Details on 'Saw VII 3D', Interview with Writers Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan!

During our exclusive chat with Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan about The Collector DVD/Blu-ray release (it’s in stores now), they also talked about the upcoming closely-guarded Saw VII 3-D, and address the possibility of whether this will indeed be the final film in the series. They weren't able to tell me one way or the other, but this being Hollywood, you can bet your ass if the seventh one makes money there'll be another Saw movie at some point in the near future. Read on for all the details, including the *****in', super sick trap that’s so bloody, so disgusting, and so disturbing, the producers wouldn’t allow them to put it in any of the Saw films – until now.

BD: I like the core idea in 'Saw VII' of bringing back some of the survivors from the previous films. How did you guys come up with that?

Marcus: Well, that springboarded from…I mean, you're looking at something that is a Part 7, and if you look at the previous horror film series that get up to a Part 7…very rarely do those entries take advantage of the fact that they have a history. Like for example, in some where it's a new group of people, and they also die….the nice thing about 'Saw' is, if the killer – who's not necessarily a killer – but if his method is successful, you live. You're f'ed up, but yet wait, you appreciate it! So this is the one type of franchise where you organically have people that should be still involved, and should come back, and what their stories are I think are quite compelling. Especially, you know, individuals that have been kicked down by a lot of circumstances to the point where a villain has decided to put them in a room with their worst vice and by god, a handful of 'em survived…what do they want? Do they want revenge? Would they like to protect that? Where could that series go? And I thought based on just that idea, that here's a series paved in red but some people stood up at the end of the day, that was fertile ground to grow a pretty wicked, twisty-turny entry.

BD: How substantial is Cary Elwes' role in the movie?

Marcus: We're gonna have to be careful when it comes to that sort of a thing, but the one thing I'm very confident that we could reveal, is that…it's not old footage.

Patrick: It's all new. He was in Toronto shooting scenes. But that's about all we can say.

BD: Was the 3-D aspect of 'Saw 7' constantly on your mind when you were writing?

Marcus: Absolutely. The fact we had to make out lists continually of what the moments were…and also the producers and whatnot were all very keenly aware of other horror product that was out there in 3-D and didn't want to come short of any of the impact that those films had, but in fact wanted to [top] them by miles. So every single moment was conceived with that technology in mind. Not in a conversion sense…what I loved about the idea of potentially going into a 'Saw' movie in 3-D was not the sense of something poking you in the eye, which could be nauseating, but the sense of immersion. Like, we can actually put the audience in a trap this year. That's bad-ass. That hasn't been done. And now, when the audience recoils from something out of fright, the image is built to chase you.

Patrick: In terms of coming up with the traps and stuff like that, is there's always chatter; is that trap that you guys are talking about gonna be a 3-D moment? And so we're all very aware of that. No one wanted to make one of those gimmicky 3-D horror movies, where things just randomly come at the audience. They wanted it to be a little more organic to the story and not really draw attention to itself. So it is more immersive than some of the other 3-D movies that we've seen. And it was shot in real 3-D, so it's not a cheap gag to get three more bucks out of everybody. It was very well thought through, and conceived and all that…a lot of the traps are gonna be really…[taking on] a new dimension.

Marcus: I will tell you this. There's a trap we've wanted to put in a 'Saw' movie ever since we had the chance to work on this. And it's four years now! It's the most brutal thing. First time: 'No, that's too violent!' Second year: 'No, that's too disgusting!' Third year: 'No, that's just wrong!' This year: 'Ok, **** it. Bring it.' [Laughs] I was so proud to see it unleashed. And with the added technological leap of 3-D…oh, it is definitely three “die”-mensions. [Laughs]

BD: So you guys were actually told this was just too extreme for a 'Saw' film?

Marcus: Yeah. 'Too much! Oh, we just can't!'

Patrick: Not this year.

[Laughter]

BD: In a franchise known for its subtlety, I guess that makes sense.

Marcus: Of course, yeah. [Laughs]

BD: 'Saw 6' had a complex flashback structure. Can we expect that with the seventh film?

Marcus: Well I mean, naturally, when they release a plot that's based on survivors we're gonna have to do a little reminding. So certainly, there will be elements that have to be revealed. And that's the benefit of having a nice fractured timeline, is you can always fill in elements of the past to support a nice moment in the future, in the present.

Patrick: And plus, you know, we're promising a certain amount of closure at the end of this, so actually we're gonna have to reach into the past to bring this thing full circle, you know?

BD: You guys think this is actually gonna be the last 'Saw' film?

Marcus: That's another thing we can't –

Patrick: I don't know. I don't know if it will be. But once the dust settles and the credits roll, you're certainly gonna feel a great amount of closure on where the franchise began and where it ends at the end of this one.

BD: Are you saying, then, that once this one is done that the franchise would need to be reconceived?

Marcus: No, no, no. There are certain questions, I guess, that are answered that will provide a satisfaction to this. I mean, pretty much we're trying to dance around the idea that we're not supposed to say **** about whether it's the last one or not. We're just not. Anytime it's even been hinted at, we get like the hard hand over our mouths…I mean, whereas for a moment we thought we could be a little more definitive about it, but no, we're really not supposed to say jack ****.

BD: I'm sure this is a sensitive issue, but I know Kevin Greutert was forced back onto the project after he went over to direct 'Paranormal 2'. Were you guys worried that situation would lead to a tense work environment on 'Saw 7'?

Marcus: Well, it was a very complex shoot just based on the technology involved. You know, the budget was twice as big, the schedule was a third longer, and the plot was twice as ambitious to sprinkle in there as well. So any filmmaker would want the benefit of time to enter that world, and so time was definitely a bigger crunch issue…and yes, while there were sensitive political behind-the-scenes elements going on, Kevin Greutert showed up to make the very, very best movie possible, and he fought and fought and fought to drag every bloody image to the screen. And you know, for somebody facing what is…oh man, it's so, so daunting. But that guy is such a professional that he did nothing but deliver the entire time. And deliver, and deliver, and deliver. So by the end of it, I think the poor guy broadsided into a beach and said 'wake me when I need to go back to editing', and that was that. Cause he spent every last molecule of his strength to bring the film over the finish line. Bu I really can't wait to see it. Pat and I were able to witness the man in action quite a bit this year, and it was something else. He had to puppeteer sequences that were ten times as ambitious as anything in the previous entries.

BD: Did he acclimate to the 3-D thing pretty well, especially this being only his second film?

Marcus: Well, second film as a director, but countless films as a creator. As an editor, he's been telling stories for years and years and years, and complex ones. So that first discipline served him well. The technology was something that had to be learned a bit quickly, but at least this was a familiar mechanism of storytelling. So that I think was crucial to the success of it.

Patrick: Considering the circumstances, I think he acclimated pretty quickly. But two weeks in, he really found his stride. But you know, it was definitely a difficult transition cause he was thrown in two weeks before production. It's one thing to get your brain around the script, but it's another thing to be told you have to shoot it differently because we have this new camera package. You know, he was able to adapt pretty quickly, and I think it's gonna be a really wild ride.

BD: If 'Saw 7' did end up being your last involvement in the franchise, would that be a good feeling considering you'd be more free to pursue other projects?

Marcus: There's nothing but…we're grateful to have been a part of something that people have seen and responded to. I mean, it's a popular juggernaut of a series. And really, the greatest satisfaction of all comes from the lights coming up at the end, and if we really scared you or if we really surprised you, that's about as good as it gets.

Patrick: If this ends up being the last one, I think everyone will be very fulfilled and satisfied with looking back on all the films…by the end of this movie, they'll all have a really nice symmetry to them. And if there's more, there can be, but there certainly doesn't need to be after this one.

BD: How much of Tobin Bell will we see in 'Saw VII'?

Patrick: He's in it…I don't know if he has as much screen time in ['Saw 6'] –

Marcus: Actually, I don't think we'll know until we see the movie…we know he was there for the shoot, so we'll see!

Patrick: He's in it, and his character is very important to the plot, where the plot begins and where the plot ends. Very important. Cause we know at the end of ['Saw 6'] there's problems lingering, because somebody didn't die who was supposed to die, and somebody's now likely being pursued by the person who's supposed to be dead. And they both trace back to John Kramer. So…his being is integral to the plot.

BD: So there's no danger of Tobin Bell ending up on the cutting room floor.

Patrick: No. No way…these scenes get cut down quite a bit throughout the process, but strangely enough, the scenes that are never cut down are the ones with Tobin. Cause he just…he has a real great aura, and a real great grasp on the character, and sort of the nuance of the 'Saw' universe. So anytime he's spewing knowledge it's usually pretty interesting.

SAW 3D arrives in theaters October 22.

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[AlteredEgo]

Goddammit Saw, I keep swearing you off every time I walk out of the theater, but you just barely keep pulling me back in. The premise sounds interesting and who knows, the 3D might even be alright. As for now though, I'm gonna play it safe and try to catch this at a matinee.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm unsure of the 3d. i will have to see the trailer and if it looks like too many things are coming out at you. If so 2d for em.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

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First look at Hoffman after the reverse bear trap.

Edit: Nevermind. I think it's fake as the photo is from the ending of Saw 6 and Hoffman would look bloodier than that. I'm guess he's going to look more ****ed up than what we expected.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Suddenly I miss the roman numerals.

Saw 3D: The Traps Come Alive !?



http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=15767

 

[Punisher Rising]

That title is ridiculous, what are the producers thinking? Hopefully the movie turns out decent at least, especially after how surprisingly good Saw VI was.

 

[Drizzle]

This better be the last ****ing one. Seriously. Enough.

 

[chaseter]

The twist at the end of this one is that they are going to make Saw 8.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

That is just a silly, silly title there. and this coming from a person who likes and owns all the saw dvds. What are they thinking? Dumbest title ever.

If anything just call it Saw 3D. and drop the dumb tagline title add on.