Sci-Fi Dune

[DarthSkywalker]

It's pretty much like Game of Thrones in space. I just don't want to see some lame catchline on a poster like "Before Game of Thrones there was Dune." Meh!

Well GoT if there are no Starks. Which is rather depressing when you think about it.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Well GoT if there are no Starks. Which is rather depressing when you think about it.

The Atriedes are kind of like the Starks of the Imperium. The difference is that unlike Robb, Paul realized that to beat the monsters, you have to become a bigger monster yourself.

And he knew that you keep the woman you love as a side piece.

 

[Sithborg]

That is one thing I liked about the mini-series, and kind of in the new books. The building up of Irulan's character. I really do want that Irulan book that was in the works.

 

[FVD]

That is one thing I liked about the mini-series, and kind of in the new books. The building up of Irulan's character. I really do want that Irulan book that was in the works.

It's kinda like Peter Jackson putting more emphasis on Arwen in LotR, but in a good way. It was a good departure utilising Irulan more - and I liked Julie Cox's portrayal too. What's that Irulan book all about? Is it no longer being developed?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Of course it did. Lord of the Rings was a game changer in terms of tentpoles, franchise-building, adaptations, adventure and fantasy movie and so many other things. It was groundbreaking in its ambition. But when you get right down to it, it's still about a group of underdogs fighting an ultimate evil that's pure evil. It's an unambiguous evil. It's a story that can be broadly played to more audiences.

Dune is different. Not everyone is purely good, and not everyone is purely evil. Even the more noble House Atreides plays the game. Arguably, Paul does some things that are even worse than House Harkonnen.

People will be able to handle it. It won't be easy, but audiences will be fine with it if it's executed right. Audiences would be more welcome of an ambiguous hero of an epic film.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

As much as I would love Dune to become a franchise, I think that by the time it goes to Emperor Paul doing questionable things, the sequels will be canceled.

 

[Sithborg]

It's kinda like Peter Jackson putting more emphasis on Arwen in LotR, but in a good way. It was a good departure utilising Irulan more - and I liked Julie Cox's portrayal too. What's that Irulan book all about? Is it no longer being developed?

I think it is currently planned as Throne of Dune, and I suspect that it is going to cover a period between Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.

 

[Fallen Angel]

As much as I would love Dune to become a franchise, I think that by the time it goes to Emperor Paul doing questionable things, the sequels will be canceled.

Maybe but Legendary also bought rights to film and TV series. Could see a HBO show of Dune.

 

[TheVileOne]

People will be able to handle it. It won't be easy, but audiences will be fine with it if it's executed right. Audiences would be more welcome of an ambiguous hero of an epic film.

What makes you so sure?

 

[Sithborg]

GOT's success probably.

 

[Sawyer]

The Atriedes are kind of like the Starks of the Imperium. The difference is that unlike Robb, Paul realized that to beat the monsters, you have to become a bigger monster yourself.

And he knew that you keep the woman you love as a side piece.

I tell Cate Blanchett that very same thing at the beginning of every Oscar season...

 

[Pink Ranger]

I tell Cate Blanchett that very same thing at the beginning of every Oscar season...

"And then she responds to you by saying, 'I'm Tilda Swinton, you fool!'"

 

[Doctor Jones]

What makes you so sure?

Because audiences want new things when it's done correctly. We've seen it in movies and in tv.

 

[Drseuss]

It's pretty much like Game of Thrones in space. I just don't want to see some lame catchline on a poster like "Before Game of Thrones there was Dune." Meh!

Dune - a ripoff of Star Wars and GOT.

 

[FVD]

"And then she responds to you by saying, 'I'm Tilda Swinton, you fool!'"

Hmm, Tilda Swinton could play a convincing Reverend Mother...

 

[Guts]

Dune - a ripoff of Star Wars and GOT.

I think the scenes on Tatooine would have been more interesting if Tatooine was a straight ripoff of Arrakis.

 

[TheVileOne]

GOT's success probably.

Game of Thrones is a TV-MA HBO TV series, not a $200 million movie.

 

[Sithborg]

That is quite expensive, and also has a more limited revenue stream.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

As much as I would love Dune to become a franchise, I think that by the time it goes to Emperor Paul doing questionable things, the sequels will be canceled.

Maybe but Legendary also bought rights to film and TV series. Could see a HBO show of Dune.

True, I didn't think about that.
Maybe one movie ( first book ) and then if it works, a mini series for the book sequels....

 

[TheVileOne]

Because audiences want new things when it's done correctly. We've seen it in movies and in tv.

Dune isn't necessarily new things.

 

[FVD]

I think the scenes on Tatooine would have been more interesting if Tatooine was a straight ripoff of Arrakis.

And the mouth of the Sarlaac Pit was nothing more than a Worm that was too fat to move.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Dune isn't necessarily new things.

You're missing my point. Dune is something that everyone isn't familiar with and could be seen as risky and unsure right now, can really pay off when it's done right. It's how every risky endeavor that becomes successful starts out. Avatar was once a weird looking movie about blue cat aliens. The idea of a cinematic universe was once seen as too risky and complex, and this thing called Star Wars used to be this baffling kids space movie with wizards and some guy in a monkey suit. Dune is about an ambiguous, morally grey world. Point is, all these movies have their quirks. I don't see how this can't fit in that club if these people can somehow crack the code to making it all work on film. If this totally works out, who knows, Dune could be the next big thing. Then before you know it, the talk among execs will be like, "It's like Dune!" That sounds weird now but then again we never imagined the term cinematic universe becoming such a normalized description for studio executives now.

 

[TheVileOne]

You're missing my point. Dune is something that everyone isn't familiar with and could be seen as risky and unsure right now, can really pay off when it's done right. It's how every risky endeavor that becomes successful starts out. Avatar was once a weird looking movie about blue cat aliens. The idea of a cinematic universe was once seen as too risky and complex, and this thing called Star Wars used to be this baffling kids space movie with wizards and some guy in a monkey suit. Dune is about an ambiguous, morally grey world. Point is, all these movies have their quirks. I don't see how this can't fit in that club if these people can somehow crack the code to making it all work on film. If this totally works out, who knows, Dune could be the next big thing. Then before you know it, the talk among execs will be like, "It's like Dune!" That sounds weird now but then again we never imagined the term cinematic universe becoming such a normalized description for studio executives now.

Yeah but Avatar has James Cameron behind it. Denis Villeneuve is a very talented cat, but he's still not James Cameron.

Also Avatar is still a better analogy because it was at least an original script. Dune still isn't. It's still not "new." And Dune did basically give the foundation for a lot of later sci-fi across all media in film, TV and literature.

 

[FVD]

I've just started to use Michael McElhatton (Game of Throne's Roose Bolton) as my Stilgar while reading through the book. Maybe I've been thinking of the guy who played Stilgar (the guy before Steven Berkoff) in the Mini-Series but I do think he's got quite a commanding voice IMHO.

 

[Eddie Dean]

No whities as Stilgar please.