Sci-Fi Dune

[Persona]

I would have loved to see some of the amazing colors and costumes from the artwork of jodorowsky’s film influence this movie.

Yeah, the pictures aren't doing much for me. The imagination so far seems like just a sleeker take on Lynch's designs. Chalamet is fine but I feel like Paul Atreides, a pretty dull character in my opinion, is not going to be elevated by him because I don't think it is a character that plays to Chalamet's strengths (youthful cheekiness). We know Villeneuve and his crew will craft the crap out of this thing but I dunno, a prestige-y 2-part Dune movie honestly sounds like a bit of a chore.

I am definitely looking forward to Ferguson and Duncan-Brewster in their roles, though.

 

[OutOfBoose]

How faithful was the Lynch movie to the book/s??

The '84 movie is my only foray into the world of Dune. So I'm curious if this one will be much different to the Lynch movie.

It's faithful to overall plot. But many smaller details were altered. Plus a lot of detail was lost, because it's just impossible to fit this story into a 2-hour movie and do it proper justice. I read that the movie was meant to be much longer and there is a fan edit that attempts to restore at least part of it.

I hope DV was able to conjure some striking imagery and it's in the trailers... Because I believe it's the only thing that can draw GA to this one. Not counting some extra audiences from Chalamet and Zendaya.

 

[thangaran]

The photos look interesting but very Lynchish as well.



although not plot faithful. Even to have some of Mobius’s details and art work would have been so cool to see. Probably doesn’t fit with Denis V’s vision though

 

[Guts]

What are the odds of a Dune coloring book?

 

[Sawyer]

Was that an actual product at the time? If so, the 80s were even wilder than I thought...

 

[Guts]

It reminds me of other R rated movies at the time getting children tie in things. Like Rambo and Robocop animated series.

 

[Persona]

People keep saying Chalamet and Zendaya will bring people in. Will they, though? I haven't really seen that effect with their other projects. Seems like their social media followers just like to follow them on social media and look at memes with them in it

 

[Marvolo]

It could be PG13 easy, there is no overly bloody or sexual stuff depicted in the book, then again American rating is...American (ie violence is ok, show a side boob and it's the end of the world).

The Baron Harkonnen sadistically rapes male child slaves.

 

[Sithborg]

The Baron Harkonnen sadistically rapes male child slaves.

But not on screen.

 

[-JKR-]

I think that Dune can work perfectly within the confines of the PG-13 rating. People forget there's plenty of intense PG-13 horror movies and thrillers, Split (in which it is heavily implied that Anya Taylor-Joy has a history of phyisical and probably sexual abuse, as well) and A Quiet Place being two of them for example.

Among blockbusters, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and The Dark Knight very pretty intense.

And Dune doesn't strike me as the kind of material in need of explicit, in camera blood squibs and gore effects or overly explicit sexual content.

 

[OutOfBoose]

People keep saying Chalamet and Zendaya will bring people in. Will they, though? I haven't really seen that effect with their other projects. Seems like their social media followers just like to follow them on social media and look at memes with them in it

It's more about awareness. They have large audiences and the more people know about the movie, the more people will go to see it. It doesn't automatically means majority of their followers will, but it's free advertising.

About age rating of Dune... It can be done with PG-13, but I just can't shake how sanitized a lot of movies feel these days. It's like there's no middle ground with these ratings. Either some try hard carnage or completely bloodless action, where you can't feel any impact.

 

[-JKR-]

It's more about awareness. They have large audiences and the more people know about the movie, the more people will go to see it. It doesn't automatically means majority of their followers will, but it's free advertising.

About age rating of Dune... It can be done with PG-13, but I just can't shake how sanitized a lot of movies feel these days. It's like there's no middle ground with these ratings. Either some try hard carnage or completely bloodless action, where you can't feel any impact.

Depends on which movies we're talking about. Some PG-13 blockbusters keep it extra sanitized in order to target the youngest members of their audience, others don't care about that and do whatever is possible within the confines of the ratings.

It's not really a matter of the rating itself, but rather a conscious choice on behalf of the filmmakers and studio people to not get any complaints from worried parents and pander to as much people as possible (which I personally don't like).

And yeah, I am aware of some of the non-sensical decision-making of the MPA, but most of the time it's the studios themselves who are afraid to even try to push the ratings. There is an increasing insistence on "comforting" the audience, unfortunately.

But Denis Villeneuve doesn't strike me as the kind of filmmaker targeting seven-year olds, and Legendary has shown to at least try to have some artistic integrity over the years.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Depends on which movies we're talking about. Some PG-13 blockbusters keep it extra sanitized in order to target the youngest members of their audience, others don't care about that and do whatever is possible within the confines of the ratings.

It's not really a matter of the rating itself, but rather a conscious choice on behalf of the filmmakers and studio people to not get any complaints from worried parents and pander to as much people as possible (which I personally don't like).

And yeah, I am aware of some of the non-sensical decision-making of the MPA, but most of the time it's the studios themselves who are afraid to even try to push the ratings. There is an increasing insistence on "comforting" the audience, unfortunately.

But Denis Villeneuve doesn't strike me as the kind of filmmaker targeting seven-year olds, and Legendary has shown to at least try to have some artistic integrity over the years.

That's true. I hope Dune isn't like this. I hope DV will push the scenes which need to be violent for storytelling purposes instead of catering to audience feelings. Not saying it's always a bad thing, some directors are so far up their own asses that audiences struggle to connect with what they try to say, but DV seems to be a sensible and self-aware filmmaker. He should do it right regardless of age rating.

Though I want it to be R. Even considering higher BO risks. In good hands movies like that feel more natural. After all, Dune isn't Back to the Future. There are much darker topics like war, betrayal, death and so on.

 

[TheVileOne]

How faithful was the Lynch movie to the book/s??

The '84 movie is my only foray into the world of Dune. So I'm curious if this one will be much different to the Lynch movie.

IMHO, Lynch's ending sort of ruins the canon of the books and Paul as a character. Frank Herbert was very gracious about Lynch's film, but he put it very simply:

Spoiler

Paul is playing a god. He's not a literal one.

 

[Albright]

I think, it definitely will be PG13 - nowadays you can‘t risk to exclude audiences in such big projects.
Also a lot of the followers of Zendaya and Chalamet are under 18

 

[-JKR-]

David Lynch's version didn't have an R-rating, either.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

The Baron Harkonnen sadistically rapes male child slaves.

In the book it is said that he is a pervert but there is no depiction of The Baron with young boys (beside the assassination attempt on him but again, no depiction).

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Guts]

I'm pretty sure the one from the 80's was directed by Alan Smithee and not David Lynch. So that probably explains why he doesn't have any interest in Dune.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm pretty sure the one from the 80's was directed by Alan Smithee and not David Lynch. So that probably explains why he doesn't have any interest in Dune.

Lynch is credited on his cut of the film.

There are alternate cuts he didn't approve that have the Alan Smithee credit.

 

[Sawyer]

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[Albright]

So what has David Lynch been up to since Mulholland Drive?

 

[Doctor Jones]

He made Inland Enpire his last movie and made one of the greatest shows of the past decade in Twin Peaks: The Return.

He also gives lectures to inner city schools about transcedentalism. And wrote a book called Catching the Big Fish.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Inland Empire. Goddamn I love that movie. I still remember the feeling when I left the theater in Summer 2007.

Not hard to understand Lynch's feeling towards Dune (and probably towards big budget film making in general). And in support of the idea that it wasn't a dig at Villeneuve like some try to spin it, he had no interest in directing Star Wars, but still met with George Lucas out of respect and admiration.

 

[flickchick85]

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