Sci-Fi Dune

[CaptainWagner]

I thought it was bland and poorly put together. Denis needs to improve significantly with action scenes if he's going to make part 2 satisfying.

I can get a lot of complaints I've seen but I am at a complete loss as to how that scene could in any way be described as bland.

 

[Lily Adler]

Well Jason Momoa got COVID at the Dune premiere. Hopefully no one else did.

 

[shauner111]

I can get a lot of complaints I've seen but I am at a complete loss as to how that scene could in any way be described as bland.

The guy who created the action in Sicario and 2049 is being told to step up his action game lol. Superhero forums am I right?

 

[Sithborg]

On a personal level, I sort of see Feyd as the anti-Paul. They are of similar age. He's the golden boy and desired heir of House Harkonnen, but he also embodies some of their worst qualities. He's also a rival for the throne.

He is also intended to act as the Harkonnen "savior" to the Fremen, similar to how Paul took that mantle.

 

[Marvolo]

The guy who created the action in Sicario and 2049 is being told to step up his action game lol. Superhero forums am I right?

Sicario has quick tense firefights, and 2049 is a noir film with a small amount of hand to hand and some exchange of small arms fire. Denis did fine with that small scale lowkey action. He wasn't ready for a planetary or even a city scale battle scene.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

I thought it was bland and poorly put together. Denis needs to improve significantly with action scenes if he's going to make part 2 satisfying.

I prefer the way Denis shoots action. There is something of a classic film about them. He rarely has incomprehensible, chaotic close ups modern filmmakers use to put one “inside the action”. Everything is done on a wide master shot. I like that.

 

[shauner111]

Sicario has quick tense firefights, and 2049 is a noir film with a small amount of hand to hand and some exchange of small arms fire. Denis did fine with that small scale lowkey action. He wasn't ready for a planetary or even a city scale battle scene.

What about the rest of the action and explosions in 2049? Aerial vehicles taking a dive in sand and water. Very effective moments that you felt in the cinema and at home. I think he’s ready.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The action like so much else of the film is hobbled by the fact that there was no effort made to engage you with the characters, their motivations or the very world that shaped them.

I don't care about anyting going on so you've already undercut a ton of dramatic tension. By leaving so very much opaque after already over and hour when the attack comes you're just numb. Why should this big attack matter to me? I don't care about the people or what their goals are that are being thwarted by the Emperor and the Baron.

And as detailed as the film making is, when you have no rooting interest what gets presented in those kind of scenes will feel hallow and have far less of an impact to many in the audience.

 

[Man in the Suit]

 

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[shauner111]

The action like so much else of the film is hobbled by the fact that there was no effort made to engage you with the characters, their motivations or the very world that shaped them.

I don't care about anyting going on so you've already undercut a ton of dramatic tension. By leaving so very much opaque after already over and hour when the attack comes you're just numb. Why should this big attack matter to me? I don't care about the people or what their goals are that are being thwarted by the Emperor and the Baron.

And as detailed as the film making is, when you have no rooting interest what gets presented in those kind of scenes will feel hallow and have far less of an impact to many in the audience.

A lot of us cared though.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The story was not told in a way that you liked. That is fine. I have seen enough positive reactions from people who are not familiar with the book and are not what I would call cinephiles, to know that it is hitting with a different range of people than one might expect.

Well I wish something in this film would "Hit" me with anything.

I'd be happy with a pie in the face.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The thing about action in DV's movies, including of Dune, is that it's not there to showcase fighting choreography. It's about tension, atmosphere. It doesn't overstay it's welcome. When I watched it the first time, I thought it flew by too quickly, but on my second watch I thought it was just perfect. It became one of the best parts of the movie for me. It manages to show all the detail needed without overindulging.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Another deleted scene.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Another deleted scene.

What do you know...

Context. Information. Characterization.


All cut for...

Zendaya in the sand scenes.


I'm sorry but this sort of thing goes to a lot of the issues the film has. Which is SUCH a goddamned shame. The on paper ideas and themes of this story not only dove tail rather neatly into commentary on politics/environmentalism/Foreign Policy but this could only enhance the movie overall by showing us the suffering of the Freman. Cuz in the cut we have outside of the scene at the start which just shows a Freman attack on the Harkonnen but gives no inkling about the WHYS of Freman insurrection we don't get much on the Freman. The people who are those being colonized. What's in the film tells us very little of importance as to the motivations of these people. They are background props barely featured in the film until the end.

The film could have told me what the Freman believe in outside of vague allusions to them being Messianic... Okay... What's the religion exactly? How and why do they believe it? What in their view is the sin of harvesting Spice? Tell me, I'm interested movie... But I don't get anything. We are indeed "told" by the cut we've seen that the Baron is bad for Dune and its native population. A scene like this would have SHOWN us as well as further contrasting Paul's father and his house's approach to the world to Vladamir and his coterie.

 

[Prison Mike]

Zendaya was hardly in it to begin with. I don’t think anything was cut for her. But it looks like a lot was cut unfortunately. I find it hard to believe that there’s no director’s cut or that the theatrical movie was Denis’ true vision this whole time despite what he has said. I wish there were more Duke Leto scenes. I felt he was hardly in it. I also wish there were more scenes between Leto and Jessica. The 1984 movie and Syfy miniseries showed more of those two together than this movie did.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

I think an extended cut of this film could rival the LOTR extended cuts or at the very least the Kingdom of Heaven director's cut.

 

[Marvolo]

I think an extended cut of this film could rival the LOTR extended cuts or at the very least the Kingdom of Heaven director's cut.

Denis has said he doesnt do extended cuts and once a scenes cut its gone as far as he is concerned.

Speaking of cut scenes, I found another deleted scene in the Art and Soul of Dune book.

They filmed the scene of Duncan arriving on to Arrakis. It sounds awesome.

The Duncan Drop - Art and Soul of Dune page 128 & 130 - Tanya Lapointe

"The sequence began as Duncan looks down at Arrakis from his spacecraft. Pushing himself off the edge of the hatch, he plummets head down toward the planet, allowing the audience to discover Arrakis from his point of view. Duncan drops faster and faster toward the surface in a controlled fall alongside a rock face. As he approaches the ground, he activates his suspender belt and lands softly on a rocky elevation.

We filmed this scene with Jason in two locations. In Budapest and the Jordanian desert."

There are pictures from the scene in the book.

 

[henzINNIT]

Another deleted scene.

That one stings me a little.

That blu ray better be loaded. If the deleted scenes are released in good quality, someone will see to an extended cut even if the director doesn't. Semi-related trivia: Some home releases of 1984's Dune actually include a fan edit of that movie as an alternate cut.

 

[Marvolo]

Denis in the editing bay:

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Denis has said he doesnt do extended cuts and once a scenes cut its gone as far as he is concerned.

Speaking of cut scenes, I found another deleted scene in the Art and Soul of Dune book.

They filmed the scene of Duncan arriving on to Arrakis. It sounds awesome.

The Duncan Drop - Art and Soul of Dune page 128 & 130 - Tanya Lapointe

"The sequence began as Duncan looks down at Arrakis from his spacecraft. Pushing himself off the edge of the hatch, he plummets head down toward the planet, allowing the audience to discover Arrakis from his point of view. Duncan drops faster and faster toward the surface in a controlled fall alongside a rock face. As he approaches the ground, he activates his suspender belt and lands softly on a rocky elevation.

We filmed this scene with Jason in two locations. In Budapest and the Jordanian desert."

There are pictures from the scene in the book.

Yeah, that sounds great, wish they had kept this and a few other scenes in. I just wanted more of this movie.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Denis has said he doesnt do extended cuts and once a scenes cut its gone as far as he is concerned.

I know. And I still want one.

 

[Marvolo]

I know. And I still want one.

Me too.