Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson a comic fan, would love to play Luke Cage on film...

[WildcatNC]

Let's see how The Rock is received in the Charley Pride biopic that's due next year. If critics and fans feel like he can play a black country singer, then I'll be willing to get behind him as Luke Cage.

Otherwise, I think that until this Charley Pride movie comes out, Dwayne has always identified himself more with the Samoan side of his rasslin' family than the black side.

And again: Dwayne has yet to prove that he's a legit actor instead of an action star. The country music movie will be his first real stretch as an actor.

He's already owned the role of a black country singer in "Stay Cool"

 

[VoodooMagic]

Let's see how The Rock is received in the Charley Pride biopic that's due next year. If critics and fans feel like he can play a black country singer, then I'll be willing to get behind him as Luke Cage.

Otherwise, I think that until this Charley Pride movie comes out, Dwayne has always identified himself more with the Samoan side of his rasslin' family than the black side.

And again: Dwayne has yet to prove that he's a legit actor instead of an action star. The country music movie will be his first real stretch as an actor.

Let's stop putting feelings in DJ's heart.

Who knows who he identifies with? I have a tough time telling him he's not black enough to play Luke Cage, I bet he responds with a very intimidating "oh really?" How can you possibly know what he feels about his heritage...If he's a fan of comic books he very possibly has felt for a long time that he related with Luke Cage because he is the closet to resembling the Rock's heritage as any character so far.



Point 2: Luke Cage does not need an Oscar winner. It needs a guy who can carry a movie, there is a huge difference between an actor that is a great actor and one that can carry a movie.

The Rock is a guy who can carry a movie, he owns the screen, he dominates it, he has confidence, charisma and chemistry and in these action movies that is really more of what you need than any sort of "method" acting or someone that digs deep into their role.

RDJ hardly acts as Tony Stark, but he preforms. We need a performer we don't really need an actor. No matter how you cut it, Luke Cage isn't the Joker he's not going to win an Academy Award, but he is going to kick a lot of ass and have a bunch of cool lines.

 

[cherokeesam]

He's already owned the role of a black country singer in "Stay Cool"

You mean *Be* Cool...? Where he played the *Samoan* bodyguard/ aspiring actor?

Let's stop putting feelings in DJ's heart.

Who knows who he identifies with? I have a tough time telling him he's not black enough to play Luke Cage, I bet he responds with a very intimidating "oh really?" How can you possibly know what he feels about his heritage...If he's a fan of comic books he very possibly has felt for a long time that he related with Luke Cage because he is the closet to resembling the Rock's heritage as any character so far.

The Rock isn't even campaigning for that role. Unlike at least two or three others who have actually been petitioning Marvel for the role. Dwayne was just asked about playing a superhero by one of the mods over at CBM and about Cage specifically; it was an off-the-cuff response to a fanboy casting call.

Point 2: Luke Cage does not need an Oscar winner. It needs a guy who can carry a movie, there is a huge difference between an actor that is a great actor and one that can carry a movie.

The Rock is a guy who can carry a movie, he owns the screen, he dominates it, he has confidence, charisma and chemistry and in these action movies that is really more of what you need than any sort of "method" acting or someone that digs deep into their role.

RDJ hardly acts as Tony Stark, but he preforms. We need a performer we don't really need an actor. No matter how you cut it, Luke Cage isn't the Joker he's not going to win an Academy Award, but he is going to kick a lot of ass and have a bunch of cool lines.

With that, you prove you know very little about the character yourself. Cage is a *very* human character, and a very deep one. He's *far* more than "kicking ass and cool lines." More times than not, he tries to talk his way through a situation and defuse it with street diplomacy than just kickin' ass and takin' names. And he's a family man at heart....family and friendship and sticking up for the community are entirely his motivating force. Any Cage script would have to reflect that; and the actor would have to show a soft side that belies his tough exterior.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

People also seem to get.. no one seems to "flock" to movies just to see "the rock"...... I love how some of you think he's a great promotional tool... he's far from it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Obama looks black. The Rock looks Samoan.

Can't we get a Luke Cage who also looks like black man?

indeed. Id actually bet majority of the black community (who'd undoubtedly be a main target audience) would feel the same way.

 

[VoodooMagic]

People also seem to get.. no one seems to "flock" to movies just to see "the rock"...... I love how some of you think he's a great promotional tool... he's far from it.

It's tough to argue against his involvement in turning the fast and furious franchise around.

He shows up and the movie doubles it's total gross and has an 80% approval on rotten tomatoes....coincidence?

For me he made that movie jump out of it's shell from street car flick to hot blooded action movie.

FandF franchise has a lot of fans, but the rock shows up and it grosses 600 million WW....I'm guessing his involvement helped.

Fantastic movie btw

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's tough to argue against his involvement in turning the fast and furious franchise around.

He shows up and the movie doubles it's total gross and has an 80% approval on rotten tomatoes....coincidence?

For me he made that movie jump out of it's shell from street car flick to hot blooded action movie.

FandF franchise has a lot of fans, but the rock shows up and it grosses 600 million WW....I'm guessing his involvement helped.

Fantastic movie btw

yeah... but did HE change the FF franchise around... or did a good script and the whole cast coming back??? Also... the FF movies stilll only attract one type of audience really...

Also.. the movie franchise had a turn around with Fast and Furious 4, that brought the original cast back (after 3 which really only had one person in it in cameo...) Fast 5 was hyped up because of a successful #4 before it... ( like most sequels... (X2/Spidey 2/etc...) have... It wasn't because the rock was in it.. that's almost laughable (even if he did a good job in his role)

 

[VoodooMagic]

yeah... but did HE change the FF franchise around... or did a good script and the whole cast coming back??? Also... the FF movies stilll only attract one type of audience really...

Also.. the movie franchise had a turn around with Fast and Furious 4, that brought the original cast back (after 3 which really only had one person in it in cameo...) Fast 5 was hyped up because of a successful #4 before it... ( like most sequels... (X2/Spidey 2/etc...) have... It wasn't because the rock was in it.. that's almost laughable (even if he did a good job in his role)

So Fast and Furious grosses 350 ww

Fast Five grosses 610 ww

same director, same producer, same writer, same cast...only exception: The Rock

I'm not saying he is the only reason, but for me he is the reason Fast Five felt a little larger than life. He took that film to the next level.

 

[VoodooMagic]

also Fast and Furious 40% critical approval Fast Five 80

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Just because a star is a good for a role doesn't mean they're a good fit for any role.

If that were the case then Hugh Jackman could play Luke Cage.

 

[VoodooMagic]

Just because a star is a good for a role doesn't mean they're a good fit for any role.

If that were the case then Hugh Jackman could play Luke Cage.

Hugh Jackman kicks ass and he can open a movie.


I still don't know who do people want to play Luke Cage? The Rock looks reasonably like the guy, he is a solid actor, he is a draw to an extent, he doesn't look ridiculous when he is acting tough.

Who is going to play Luke Cage that can top the Rock?

Common might be able to come close, and I would love him in the role, but he's not half the draw the Rock is.

Tyrese is another guy I think might do alright at the box office.

 

[RockSP]

Wow...you just like people who can't act for @#$% lol

 

[VoodooMagic]

What am I missing?

 

[VoodooMagic]

Wow...you just like people who can't act for @#$% lol

Then name me an actor.

If you are going to mock my selections than name me an actor.

I don't love Tyrese but he possibly could make decent money for the film.

I like Common more than Tyrese but I wonder if he will make the movie any money.

The Rock is an excellent action hero and will make the movie money. Will he win it an Academy Award? No, but he will make the movie awesome, and make it money.

But name me an actor.

Tell me who is this elite thespian that will transcend film to capture awards and hearts in audiences across the globe?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

So Fast and Furious grosses 350 ww

Fast Five grosses 610 ww

same director, same producer, same writer, same cast...only exception: The Rock

I'm not saying he is the only reason, but for me he is the reason Fast Five felt a little larger than life. He took that film to the next level.

in terms of $$$

X1<X2<X3
(SM1>SM2)<SM3
POTC<POTC2>(POTC3<POTC4)
(HP1>(HP2>HP3<HP4<HP5>HP6<HP7))<HP8
LOTR<LOTR2<LOTR3

i know that's sorta complicated... and it's suppose to basically show that sequels typically "grow" in $ throughout there franchise. FF1 and FF2 did well.. but 3 might as well been a direct to video... FF4 did well.. as did FF5. FF5 did well because o FF4's success and hyping things back up.

 

[VoodooMagic]

in terms of $$$

X1<X2<X3
(SM1>SM2)<SM3
POTC<POTC2>(POTC3<POTC4)
(HP1>(HP2>HP3<HP4<HP5>HP6<HP7))<HP8
LOTR<LOTR2<LOTR3

i know that's sorta complicated... and it's suppose to basically show that sequels typically "grow" in $ throughout there franchise. FF1 and FF2 did well.. but 3 might as well been a direct to video... FF4 did well.. as did FF5. FF5 did well because o FF4's success and hyping things back up.

They don't double their film gross though

I understand what you are saying but for example SM2 grossed 900, SM3 grossed 1 billion

They aren't nearly doubling in film gross.

Also, F5 doubled in critical reception as well, which has nothing to do with hype

 

[spideyboy_1111]

They don't double their film gross though

I understand what you are saying but for example SM2 grossed 900, SM3 grossed 1 billion

They aren't nearly doubling in film gross.

Also, F5 doubled in critical reception as well, which has nothing to do with hype

but it also has NOTHING to do with simply "the rock" or else "the rock" would be the new Will Smith in hollywood.. and he's not.

 

[VoodooMagic]

but it also has NOTHING to do with simply "the rock" or else "the rock" would be the new Will Smith in hollywood.. and he's not.

His performance was praised almost universally by critics though

"[Johnson's] skin looks as though it's been slathered in butter; his enjoyment is infectious and keeps the movie speeding along" New Yorker

The Los Angeles Times felt that scenes shared by Diesel and Johnson were the "best moments"

Not all reviews were positive however, with Film 4 criticizing both the film's long running time and its treatment of female characters, remarking "[Females] cameo strikingly in buttock form. Others actually have first names," but praised Johnson's role as DSS agent Luke Hobbs, saying he "provides a more credible anti-antagonist to our anti-heroes than the straight up villains can manage".


Variety focused on the roles of Johnson and Diesel, lamenting the lack of "brawny" leading men of the 1980s or the "manly men" of the 1950s and 1960s and calling their pairing "a welcome injection of tough-guy vigor" and commented that, based on Fast Five, a "sixth entry could be something worth waiting for"

Empire also heaped praise on Johnson saying "How to re-ignite an ageing franchise? Drop [Johnson] on it. The best thing, by far, in Fast Five...Dwayne Johnson hulks through the movie leaving testosterone trails in his wake."

(If you want the links just go to Wikipedia Fast Five, it's all there)


Five very legitimate film reviews all praising Johnson.


Again, he's not going to win an Oscar, but he's the best action star we have right now.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

His performance was praised almost universally by critics though

"[Johnson's] skin looks as though it's been slathered in butter; his enjoyment is infectious and keeps the movie speeding along" New Yorker

The Los Angeles Times felt that scenes shared by Diesel and Johnson were the "best moments"

Not all reviews were positive however, with Film 4 criticizing both the film's long running time and its treatment of female characters, remarking "[Females] cameo strikingly in buttock form. Others actually have first names," but praised Johnson's role as DSS agent Luke Hobbs, saying he "provides a more credible anti-antagonist to our anti-heroes than the straight up villains can manage".


Variety focused on the roles of Johnson and Diesel, lamenting the lack of "brawny" leading men of the 1980s or the "manly men" of the 1950s and 1960s and calling their pairing "a welcome injection of tough-guy vigor" and commented that, based on Fast Five, a "sixth entry could be something worth waiting for"

Empire also heaped praise on Johnson saying "How to re-ignite an ageing franchise? Drop [Johnson] on it. The best thing, by far, in Fast Five...Dwayne Johnson hulks through the movie leaving testosterone trails in his wake."

(If you want the links just go to Wikipedia Fast Five, it's all there)


Five very legitimate film reviews all praising Johnson.


Again, he's not going to win an Oscar, but he's the best action star we have right now.

the problem is, none of his action depictions have really capture luke cage at all... if he played "luke cage" he'd be nothing more than "the rock in yet another action film" do we really want that? no...

 

[VoodooMagic]

the problem is, none of his action depictions have really capture luke cage at all... if he played "luke cage" he'd be nothing more than "the rock in yet another action film" do we really want that? no...

Given a good direct, absolutely.

The Rock isn't going to be choreographing this movie. You still get your visionary to do that work

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Given a good direct, absolutely.

The Rock isn't going to be choreographing this movie. You still get your visionary to do that work

ive yet to see any movie featuring the rock.. where i don't go.. "oh it's the rock being goofey, or actiony again" he's never once lost me into a character he's playing.

 

[VoodooMagic]

ive yet to see any movie featuring the rock.. where i don't go.. "oh it's the rock being goofey, or actiony again" he's never once lost me into a character he's playing.

That doesn't mean he wouldn't make an awesome Luke Cage movie

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That doesn't mean he wouldn't make an awesome Luke Cage movie

yes it does...

 

[VoodooMagic]

yes it does...

No it doesn't, it just means to date Rock has been a big hit at the box office without having to do anything outside of his comfort zone.

What about Luke Cage is outside of anyone's comfort zone? Basically all the traits about Luke Cage are universal to most good guys and the Rock knows how to play the good guy.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

No it doesn't, it just means to date Rock has been a big hit at the box office without having to do anything outside of his comfort zone.

What about Luke Cage is outside of anyone's comfort zone? Basically all the traits about Luke Cage are universal to most good guys and the Rock knows how to play the good guy.

We just got done saying, and (pretty much agreeing) that when you watch "the rock" in anything.... all you see is "the rock" you don't lose yourself in his character, believing he's some one else, and anyone who knows Luke Cage as a character.. knows "the rock" is not him. Itks a demeanor, a look, a personality... all in which "the rock" has... but not for the character of luke cage... it'd be like casting justin timberlake as the human torch, or brittany spears as dazzler, or michael clark duncan in every "large guy" role... its boring, not a perfect fit, and just lazy casting. And it's simply not luke cage.