Explosions and gunfire in Paris

My facebook feed is infested with this garbage. Nothing but raw hatred from people who profess to be good and upstanding folk. One of my own close friends is spreading this anti-refugee stance everywhere he goes, despite his own father's family having bailed out of Europe when the Nazis started invading. His utter lack of self-awareness is baffling.

And it seems like these people are everywhere. Has it always been this bad and I just didn't notice? It's really grossing me out.

I have a longtime friend I've been considering unfriending on Facebook because she keeps going on these long tirades against Muslims and the Syrian refugees.

And yes, she's a Christian.

I unfriended two other friends a while ago because of their constant Muslim-bashing every time they logged on Facebook, and that was before Paris.
 
When a crisis happens you find out how people really are, that's all it is.
 
Well this is the same person whose reason for not voting for Obama was that she couldn't vote for someone whose middle name is "Hussein".
 
I just want to call out some of these ****heads on my FB that keep talking about how scary these desperate people are that literally have nowhere else to go because there might be an ISIS agent amongst them so we should deny them all entry. ****ing morons.
 
Well this is the same person whose reason for not voting for Obama was that she couldn't vote for someone whose middle name is "Hussein".

It sounds like your friend and my friend should get together and not have babies.
 
It sounds like your friend and my friend should get together and not have babies.

:funny:

Or maybe join the cast of "The Darwin Awards". Awful movie.....I laughed most of the way through it tho.....
 
Well, I do give my work city Chicago props for openly advertising that refugees are welcome today. Bobby Rush said there are probably guys in ISIS already homegrown here so it's moot.
 
Well, I do give my work city Chicago props for openly advertising that refugees are welcome today. Bobby Rush said there are probably guys in ISIS already homegrown here so it's moot.

That's the way I feel about many of the cities. Ethics aside, a place like Washington DC or Northern Virginia in general is going to be a hot spot regardless of whether refugees are "allowed" in or not. I live in Hampton Roads. If ISIS decided to attack anywhere close to Norfolk Naval Base, it's not going to be because of refugees.

I can understand why people feel the way they feel, but it just seems like pandemonium to me as well as an excuse for a few people to say what they're really thinking about people of Middle Eastern descent and/or Islam. I like to think I'm being logical by realizing that just because Arizona accepts refugees doesn't mean that malls in Tucson should be on high alert. S*** is going to happen if fate decides...or it won't happen at all.
 
Well, I do give my work city Chicago props for openly advertising that refugees are welcome today. Bobby Rush said there are probably guys in ISIS already homegrown here so it's moot.

Speaking of homegrown, one town over from where I live the FBI caught a teen planning to kill americans for ISIS. That is the second teenager in a year to be arrsted in that town for plotting to kill Americans for ISIS. IDK how far this one got in the planning, but the first one had weapons and was caught trying to buy suppressors for his guns.
 
I swear, real life has become like a ****ing comic book. This is the type of thing you would've seen in GI Joe or Marvel, a terrorist group a la Hydra or Cobra recruiting kids that feel they're disenfranchised.
 
It's times like these that i wish Superman was real and deals with ISIS once and for all.
 
It's times like these that i wish Superman was real and deals with ISIS once and for all.

And the trade off would be evil aliens invading trying to wipe out the planet. No thanks, we have to fix this ourselves.
 
It wasn't ambiguous, it was exaggerated and ultimately I was wrong.
It was ambiguous. Everybody in a 6 mile ratio? Everybody in Paris? Everybody in France? There was no way to tell in the context of that one sentence post what you meant.
that said, I believe about half of the people lost their lives? Not a very encouraging ratio.
again, half the people in what setting? saying it like that makes it unclear
 
A BBC produced video message from Antoine Leiris who lost his wife Helene in the Bataclan theatre in Paris.

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I'm not sure if I'll ever come round to his way of thinking but nevertheless his sentiment is beautifully expressed.
 
Most people I know seem to oppose allowing any further Syrian migration. Ranging from conservatives to super liberals.

I understand their concerns, but I think they're too scared to listen to reason.
 
It was ambiguous. Everybody in a 6 mile ratio? Everybody in Paris? Everybody in France? There was no way to tell in the context of that one sentence post what you meant.again, half the people in what setting? saying it like that makes it unclear

So then look for more context instead of taking it in isolation? The thread was being responded to quickly, the relevant part of the discussion was the revelation about the theater and that the police were being mobilized - the post directly above mine. Please put your brain back in and avoid being pedantic, we all know the "everyone" I was referring to couldn't possibly have been everyone in a six mile radius, Paris, or France based on a terrorist attack with rifles and bombs.

Most people I know seem to oppose allowing any further Syrian migration. Ranging from conservatives to super liberals.

I understand their concerns, but I think they're too scared to listen to reason.

I doubt many people have a problem with refugees being let in, I think people have an issue with how much authorities are doing to keep them, the citizens, safe.

If, a big if, the alleged Syrian passport found on on of the attackers had actually gone through Greece to get into Europe, I completely understand people being skeptical. If due diligence isn't done then refugee movement can easily being exploited by terrorists.

As much as I hope that authorities do everything in their power to help as many refugees as possible, it's highly disturbing that so many Westerners want to help others at the possible expense of their own citizens. If all the precautions aren't being taken I fully understand people saying no to refugees. There's this weird discourse right now where refusing entrance to refugees seems to be the most grievous crime imaginable, rather than possibly a pragmatic approach.

One of the biggest lessons to take away from the events in Paris is that authorities either can't or don't cover all the bases. Is helping X number of refugees worth the loss of native civilians in whatever host country, assuming in some case an extremist exponent could get into a country under the guise of being a refugee?
 
So then look for more context instead of taking it in isolation?
I was hoping for an explanation after I asked "what?" in response to your post but I didn't get one, instead you just responded with one word, not giving any real answer at all
The thread was being responded to quickly, the relevant part of the discussion was the revelation about the theater and that the police were being mobilized - the post directly above mine. Please put your brain back in and avoid being pedantic, we all know the "everyone" I was referring to couldn't possibly have been everyone in a six mile radius, Paris, or France based on a terrorist attack with rifles and bombs.
I don't always have time to look through threads all the time, especially as of late. Instead of again being condescending about it, why not just give an answer explaining what you meant instead of being so cryptic about it? Whatever
 
My thoughts go with the people of france and to those who lost their lives prior to the attacks that started with the russian plane being bombed killing at least 200 ppl. :( Now I didn't know what was happening until my dad told me of what was happening after Friday night so I followed it online to see what was going on. You know, I was in Paris about four years ago and I gotta admit, I loved it there because the ppl were so nice. Now, I don't speak fluently in french but a lot of my family members do.

About terrorism itself...it's sad that we live in a world where the world is blinded by hate and racism and propaganda. The way I look at it with whats been going on today, it's hard to believe anything anymore. :( I find that the lies outweighs the truth but again, you'll always going to find that there are those who are going to try to cover up both sides. Like for example, I read that some ppl believe that Obama is a traitor to America...because he has no interest in fighting the war on terrorism for America. And after reading so many comments on FB the other night, I was shocked. And it left me feeling like "Is this true?" To me, I dunno what to believe anymore.

Thing is, I don't hate anyone...but to see those people bash the people who are trying to get away from their own country so they can get on with their lives is just terrible. I agree with what a lot are saying about the refugees...only accept children, women and the elderly. Cause of right now, no matter where you are, where you live, no one is safe...this planet isn't a safe haven anymore. It never was to begin with. Now every country is faced with having to triple their security along their borders...and the reason i say this, is because if one or two or more of ISIS slip passes security, you know what's going to happen. All hell is going to break loose...again! It's going to cause so much of a headache to those who are against bringing in more refugees.

I am glad there are a lot of countries who are helping those people who were left behind in Iraq and Syria and other places in the middle-east. It is time that those people who do not like seeing what is happening to their own country stand up and fight their own battle against terrorism. I think for those who have a distaste for muslims living among us have no right to treat those any different who are trying to get away from what is happening in their country. I don't blame them. But still I think that those who fled from their country should have stayed and fought for their rights. Other countries could still provide the training and aid but be left out of the fight itself. The people of Middle-east should be the ones fighting back because it's their fight! Their war! Their country! Not the USA's fight, not Canada's, not Russia's, not France's! No other country should remotely be involved in this war except guide them, train them and provide aid when they need it. Why they did not think of this before? Well, I dunno...Perhaps too much was going on way before the attacks of 9/11 happened that the world just wasn't ready to know what was going to hit them.

Now it's too late...With what's happened thus far now, it's gotten the entire world in an uproar and with France taking action and saying "This was an act of War" hey, it's neither right or wrong. Many countries don't take terrorism to light and seeing those countries like France and Russia taking a stand is good.

I feel I ranted too long...so forgive me. I come from Canada. So...just my thoughts.
 
Points duly noted. Regarding the middle East fighting their own battles is where it gets sticky. They ain't doing it.
 
I was hoping for an explanation after I asked "what?" in response to your post but I didn't get one, instead you just responded with one word, not giving any real answer at all

By the same token I can say someone responding with "What?" isn't giving me any real question at all. If your question was "What do you specifically mean by that?" I could have articulated it. "What?" doesn't really give me any direction to go on, other than you didn't get as much information from my statement as you wanted.

I don't always have time to look through threads all the time, especially as of late. Instead of again being condescending about it, why not just give an answer explaining what you meant instead of being so cryptic about it? Whatever

Sustained.
 

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