World Favourite stupid moment of Superman IV

[Kevin Roegele]

This movie is full of joyously nonsensical and down-right stupid sequences. Comicbook logic is one thing. No logic at all is another.

We all know the whole, "Lacy somehow breathes in space," thing, compounded by the astronauts in space suits at the beginning.

Nuclear Man, finding Superman lying at the base of the Statue of Liberty, kicks him into the distance. The next shot is Superman's cape, which has somehow detatched itself from his shoudlers and appeared back above the Statue, falling onto the torch.

Mr Warfield tells Lacy they bought Superman's cape, "cheap," - why on earth would it be cheap? It's Superman's cape!

Apparently when it's daytime in America, it's daytime all round the world.

I love the fact that Supes and Nuclear Man can fly around the world and find each other almost immedietly.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

At the Metropolis bus station when the train conductor suffers a heart attack, Superman does his speech about train travel blocking the entrance so that the emergency crew can help the driver.

How can Nuclear Man's soles burn the floor but not in Lex's apartment?

How did the FOS rebuild itself after Superman destroyed it in S2 (if you follow Donner's version)?

 

[<(o_o)>]

At the Metropolis bus station when the train conductor suffers a heart attack, Superman does his speech about train travel blocking the entrance so that the emergency crew can help the driver.

How can Nuclear Man's soles burn the floor but not in Lex's apartment?

How did the FOS rebuild itself after Superman destroyed it in S2 (if you follow Donner's version)?

Maybe Superman could have regrew the FOS simply by tossing the green crystal back out into the icy water. There would have to be a limit as to how many times he would be able to rebuild it using the green crystal though. Replacing the knowledge crystals that Jor-El sent with little Kal-El is a different story.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

This movie is full of joyously nonsensical and down-right stupid sequences. Comicbook logic is one thing. No logic at all is another.

We all know the whole, "Lacy somehow breathes in space," thing, compounded by the astronauts in space suits at the beginning.

Nuclear Man, finding Superman lying at the base of the Statue of Liberty, kicks him into the distance. The next shot is Superman's cape, which has somehow detatched itself from his shoudlers and appeared back above the Statue, falling onto the torch.

Mr Warfield tells Lacy they bought Superman's cape, "cheap," - why on earth would it be cheap? It's Superman's cape!

Apparently when it's daytime in America, it's daytime all round the world.

I love the fact that Supes and Nuclear Man can fly around the world and find each other almost immedietly.

Some of those things I don't mind, like the cape landing on the Statue of Liberty or Nuclear Man and Superman being able to find each other so quickly. The cape thing is pretty trivial, and they're superhuman, they have godlike senses.

One stupid moment is Superman managing to convince the entire world to go along with his "rid the world of nuclear weapons" plan. Predictably, only criminals and war mongering scumbags disagree with him, and go to Lex Luthor for help.

 

[Papa Burgundy]

lex luthors magical arm.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Some of those things I don't mind, like the cape landing on the Statue of Liberty. The cape thing is pretty trivial

How is it trivia? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Superman flies away into the distance.....then his cape slowly drops over the torch.

It's just stupid.

 

[CFE]

Two words:

Jon Cryer.

While just as stupid as the proceeding statements, Lenny Luthor takes the cake for me. But it's so stupid, it's actually funny.

Not funny in a "haha" way; funny in a "I can't f**kin believe Richard Donner's vision came to this..." funny.

I laugh my ass off everytime I hear him call Supes "The Dude of Steel."

His wardrobe is another stupid factor all its own.

As far as moments or scenes go, the worst has to be a tie between the Cosmonaut getting his head taken off in the beginning (look closely when that floating Space Keg makes first impact with the Cosmonaut doll) and of course, Superman rebuilding the Great Wall of China with his Construction Vision.

Of course a Cellophane S-Sheild isn't much better; it's no better.

Superman: The Movie is the best. While 2 and even 3 had their moments, all three following sequels fell short.

CFE

 

[Papa Burgundy]

for those who dont remember what i call "the magical arm" looky looky milk and cookies.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yAs4ceZXYgc

 

[Spoarz™]

^ That's quite an arm!

 

[Lead Cenobite]

How is it trivia? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Superman flies away into the distance.....then his cape slowly drops over the torch.

It's just stupid.

To me, it's like complaining about the amount of water changing in a glass from shot to shot. We know what was intended, Superman gets kicked and his cape falls off as he's spiraling through the air. It may seem a little odd that the cape landed where it did, but that's no where near as bad as a flaw in the plot itself.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

To me, it's like complaining about the amount of water changing in a glass from shot to shot. We know what was intended, Superman gets kicked and his cape falls off as he's spiraling through the air. It may seem a little odd that the cape landed where it did, but that's no where near as bad as a flaw in the plot itself.

It's completely different to water in a glass changing from shot to shot. That's a background detail that most will never notice. Superman soaring into the distance, then his cape slowly dropping from above the torch, is not. It's appalling.

 

[Mister J]

I love when Nuclear Man says "If you do not tell me, I will hurt people". It's supposed to be all badass, but it's cheesetastically horrible. Always gets a laugh out of me.

Lenny's stupid "This rocks!", accompanied by his ridiculous gesturing, when Supes drops him off at the boarding school or whatever sticks out too.

 

[Bester]

How did the FOS rebuild itself after Superman destroyed it in S2 (if you follow Donner's version)?

If you follow Donner's version of S2 you will know that Supes turned back time to a period before he destroyed the FOS.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

There is so much nonsense in the movie, that it gives me headaches sometimes when I decide to pop in the DVD. Baseballs flying through space (when I think they'd burn up in the atmosphere?), Russian cosmonauts that can hear Superman speak in space, and not to mention Jeremy and Lacy Warfield both being able to breathe in space. Then there is the wire effects which are visible in many scenes, exploding styrofoam fire hydrants in the "I will hurt people" sequence, and a scene where Nuke melts a guys rocket launcher with heat vision and it doesn't even burn the guy's hand. Then there is Lois and Superman's flight which happens to venture from New York to Colorado to San Francisco to New York all in one neat little five minute package. There are many things that suck about the movie. I know Kevin hates it to high heaven, but I'm still the one crazy dude that thinks a special edition can be done with S:IV that eliminates most (if not all) of the inconsistencies listed. It would cost a lot of money and take some time, but if Michael Thau or Warner Brothers is listening, I'll work for free. Someone at Superman Cinema said it best: Superman III was a bad idea executed moderately well, but Superman IV was a good idea executed horribly. If you guys want to see a complete list of all of the bloopers in the film look here:

http://www.supermancinema.co.uk/superman4/general/bloopers/index.htm

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Then there is the wire effects which are visible in many scenes, exploding styrofoam fire hydrants in the "I will hurt people" sequence, and a scene where Nuke melts a guys rocket launcher with heat vision and it doesn't even burn the guy's hand.

I love that the army were on the scene within a minute, with rocket launchers ready.

 

[bunk]

Oh man! I haven't seen 4 in a while, I want to watch it so bad now, I might have to buy it. I always loved how easy it was for Lex to literally create a person. All the ingredients fit nicely into a little box, he should've made like 5 of em.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

I love that the army were on the scene within a minute, with rocket launchers ready.

I always thought it was the SWAT team? Ah, who cares. I'd cut that shot out anyway, man.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I always thought it was the SWAT team? Ah, who cares. I'd cut that shot out anyway, man.

You're right. But it still seems ridiculous.

 

[AmazinUncleBen]

-After her flight with Superman Lois says she remembered everything from Superman II. Then he uses the same method he made her forget in II to make her forget in this movie.

-Superman almost killing the gym guy by throwing weights at his neck.
-The U.N.'s great response to Superman telling them all he was about to destroy all their nuclear weapons.

-Superman's attempted menage a trois with Lois and Lacey.
etc etc etc

I did love the line "It's common knowledge that you hate children and animals Luthor"

Superman gasping for air on the moon....

 

[Dope Nose]

...and of course, Superman rebuilding the Great Wall of China with his Construction Vision.

I usually refer to it as his Claymation Vision given the ridiculously poor special effects.

 

[Papa Burgundy]

also this is pretty bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYQdyE4TdvY

 

[Dope Nose]

also this is pretty bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYQdyE4TdvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biE_xQRQUQM

 

[Mister J]

also this is pretty bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYQdyE4TdvY

Good God! I haven't watched the whole movie in some time. What the hell was that with the reconstructo-vision on the Wall? t:

 

[Gaurav Sharma]

Talking of Stupid moments did any one see the extended Superman Lois flight scene in the DVD Extras? That was terrible, not the horrible wirework and green screen effects but Lois flying like Supergirl and not once dropping towards the ground.

 

[Costumedfreak]

My favorite stupid Superman IV moment is Superman IV itself!